Could LSU lose to Alabama in the National Championship and still be #1?

[FirstTimer]

What would be different than the situation we have now?

Because rather than just choosing two teams and saying no other teams haev a shot................in a playoff LSU and Alabama would haev played their way in.

How is that not the obvious answer?

If AP polls were in the NFL im sure many woulda made a case for New England winning it.

:whut:

I dont know it.

Ok.

STFU.

 

[Senser81]

The BCS should have implemented a rule a long time ago that states you can't play in the national title game if you didn't win your conference.

Or division.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Because rather than just choosing two teams and saying no other teams haev a shot................in a playoff LSU and Alabama would haev played their way in.

How is that not the obvious answer?

Because you dont seem to understand we are only comparing LSU and Alabama. Yes i know both teams would have played their way in, but LSU would still be "superior" to Alabama as they are now, even if they lose.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Ok.

STFU.

If the AP polls work the same with a playoff as it does now, this would be a major problem.

 

[FirstTimer]

. Yes i know both teams would have played their way in,

Ok. There's the massive difference.

STFU about it already.

If each get through a playoff there wouldn't be an uproar like we have no over a split. it doesn't happen in any other sport we have that holds a playoff of any kind.

Come on.

Just quit.

This is getting stupid.

If the AP polls work the same with a playoff as it does now, this would be a major problem.

I'd bet heavy money it wouldn't be. At all.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Ok. There's the massive difference..

Ill give you the Oregon scenario again so you can understand it better.

Say this year we had a playoff, and Oregon beat LSU in the title game. Oregon would still have more losses, and lesser SOS, and the H2H series is split.

Do you not see how people could still vote for LSU in that scenario, just like people would vote for LSU regardless now?

If each get through a playoff there wouldn't be an uproar like we have no over a split. it doesn't happen in any other sport we have that holds a playoff of any kind.

Ridiculous comparison, college football is the only sport decided by polls.

And even when we do have a title game (LSU vs Bama part 2), people still wanna decide it with polls.

 

[FirstTimer]

Ill give you the Oregon scenario again so you can understand it better.

I understand it fine.

You're still being stupid.

Ridiculous comparison, college football is the only sport decided by polls.

And teh playoff would help to eliminate that.

That's the point.

Jesus you're dense.

And even when we do have a title game (LSU vs Bama part 2), people still wanna decide it with polls.

Because the polls alone decided the title game. That's kind of the problem. So of course people want to "decide it with polls". Polls were deciding it to begin with.

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[ZoneBlitz]

I understand it fine.

Apparantly you dont.

And teh playoff would help to eliminate that

That's the point.

No, thats not the point at all.

 

[ralaw]

College football, BCS, playoff talk, Zone and FT again?

hlawd:

 

[FirstTimer]

Apparantly you dont.

Actually I do because I udnerstand the way every other sport works that has a playoff.

Meanwhile you are blathering on like a retard.

:sextypething:

College football, BCS, playoff talk, Zone acting like an idiot and FT smacking him around again?

hlawd:

Fixed.

 

[shag773]

College football, BCS, playoff talk, Zone and FT again?

hlawd:

My afternoon is set...opcorn:

 

[kmanharris]

Nobody would bitch and moan if Alabama got to play LSU after they both ran through a playoff. That is the entire problem, there is no playoff. People are bitching now because Alabama got a rematch based on polls with funky equations and human bias. They didn't beat LSU the first time, they didn't win their conference, they didn't even win their God damn division.

Give me a playoff and if there is a rematch in the title game, nobody will care. Even though the end result might be the same, the two scenarios are total opposites of each other.

 

[shag773]

Ill give you the Oregon scenario again so you can understand it better.

Say this year we had a playoff, and Oregon beat LSU in the title game. Oregon would still have more losses, and lesser SOS, and the H2H series is split.

Do you not see how people could still vote for LSU in that scenario, just like people would vote for LSU regardless now?

Look at CBB and tell me if you still think thats a possibility...

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Look at CBB and tell me if you still think thats a possibility...

Terrible example, polls are thrown out once the tournament begins.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Nobody would bitch and moan if Alabama got to play LSU after they both ran through a playoff. That is the entire problem, there is no playoff. People are bitching now because Alabama got a rematch based on polls with funky equations and human bias. They didn't beat LSU the first time, they didn't win their conference, they didn't even win their God damn division.

Give me a playoff and if there is a rematch in the title game, nobody will care. Even though the end result might be the same, the two scenarios are total opposites of each other.

I was never saying "people wouldnt be ok with a rematch", im not sure if you got that retarded misinterpretation of my point from FT.

 

[shag773]

Terrible example, polls are thrown out once the tournament begins.

No, they still vote.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

No, they still vote.

No, the voting doesnt determine who the champion is.

 

[Senser81]

I dread reading through this whole thread, but it appears that zoneblitz doesn't understand the difference between 1) Alabama and LSU going through a multiple-team tournament to reach the national title game and then having Alabama win, and 2) LSU beating Alabama at Alabama during the regular season, then having Alabama hand-picked to participate in the national title game and winning.

In the old Wimbledon tennis tournament, they would automatically placed last-year's tournament winner in the Final, and then everyone else would play through the actual tournament portion to see who would face the defending champion in the Final. So, to repeat as the Wimbledon champion in the old days, you had to win one match. Not really as impressive as a current player having to prove himself from square one every year. Alabama is kind of the same way...they didn't do anything to deserve a spot in the national title game...it just kind of happened.

 

[shag773]

No, the voting doesnt determine who the champion is.

Nor does it in CFB. It determines who plays in the NC game, not the NC.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

I dread reading through this whole thread, but it appears that zoneblitz doesn't understand the difference between 1) Alabama and LSU going through a multiple-team tournament to reach the national title game and then having Alabama win, and 2) LSU beating Alabama at Alabama during the regular season, then having Alabama hand-picked to participate in the national title game and winning.

You should read the thread properly because thats not what i was saying at all.