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Define dominance

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Aroldis Chapman- 84 outs, 50 K's, seven hits, zero earned runs.

Any other performances that stand out like this, whether this year or in the past? And yes, from the discussion a few weeks ago, Kerry Wood is included.
 
Greg Maddux totals between 94 and 95, his age 28 and 29 seasons:

411 innings pitched
337 strikeouts
54 unintentional walks
73 earned runs
297 hits allowed
7.4 K/9
1.2 BB/9
6.2 K/BB
.853 WHIP
1.60 ERA
265 ERA+
35-8 W-L record
 
1999 Pedro Martinez
5 CG, 1 SHO
2.07 ERA & .923 WHIP
213.1 IP
160 H
49 ER
9 HR
37 BB
313 SO
6.8 H/9, 0.4 HR/9, 1.6 BB/9, 13.2 SO/9

2000 Pedro Martinez
7 CG, 4 SHO
1.74 ERA & .737 WHIP
217 IP
128 H
42 ER
17 HR
32 BB
284 SO
5.3 H/9, 0.7 HR/9, 1.3 BB/9, 11.8 SO/9

Aroldis Chapman- 84 outs, 50 K's, seven hits, zero earned runs.

And 1 blown save against the Mets. :smug:
 
I actually thought of Gossage's 1981 season as well. I think Bruce Sutter's 1977 was similarly "dominant", but its a matter of taste.

Sutter, 1977: 1.35 ERA, 0.857 WHIP (Hubley), 328 ERA+, 129 K's in 107 IP, 31 saves.
 
Sutter threw 107 innings that season. Gossage threw around 130 innings in some of his best years.

To me, that era was the apex of when managers used the 'bullpen ace' perfectly and to his full benefit. Previous to that, teams stockpiled bums in the bullpen, and with the exception of guys like Roy Face or Hoyt Wilhelm, when teams found somebody good they would either turn him into a mediocre starter, or waste him and burn him out by having him go 4 innings in blowouts. The late 70's saw managers use their best guy in any crucial situation in the 7th or later, and then leave him in to finish the game if it stayed close (this is how Dusty Baker was using Chapman this year, until he put him in the dreaded "closer role". He still brings in Chapman in the 8th sometimes with men on, but now half of Chapman's appearances are with 3-run leads in the 9th, instead of tie games in the 7th or 8th. Stupid.). Now, of course, the 'bullpen ace' is totally under used, but that;s a different discussion.
 
To me, that era was the apex of when managers used the 'bullpen ace' perfectly and to his full benefit. Previous to that, teams stockpiled bums in the bullpen, and with the exception of guys like Roy Face or Hoyt Wilhelm, when teams found somebody good they would either turn him into a mediocre starter, or waste him and burn him out by having him go 4 innings in blowouts. The late 70's saw managers use their best guy in any crucial situation in the 7th or later, and then leave him in to finish the game if it stayed close (this is how Dusty Baker was using Chapman this year, until he put him in the dreaded "closer role". He still brings in Chapman in the 8th sometimes with men on, but now half of Chapman's appearances are with 3-run leads in the 9th, instead of tie games in the 7th or 8th. Stupid.). Now, of course, the 'bullpen ace' is totally under used, but that;s a different discussion.

Yeah, when I was the Champs and I was playing my brother (All-Stars) at Hardball, the first guy in from the bullpen in any non-blowout situation was Jimmy Morlini. The guy was an ace.

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Bob Gibson 1968:

28 complete games. 13 shutouts. And the best part, 22-9 record.

1.12 ERA, 268 Ks, .853 WHIP


So dominant they had to lower the mound in '69.
 
Steve Carlton's 1972 season - 27 wins, 1.97 ERA, 310 strikeouts and a WAR of 12.2. During a stretch from June 7 until Aug. 17, Carlton went 15-0 while averaging nearly 8 2/3 innings per start.
 
Bob Gibson 1968:

28 complete games. 13 shutouts. And the best part, 22-9 record.

1.12 ERA, 268 Ks, .853 WHIP


So dominant they had to lower the mound in '69.

Steve Carlton's 1972 season - 27 wins, 1.97 ERA, 310 strikeouts and a WAR of 12.2. During a stretch from June 7 until Aug. 17, Carlton went 15-0 while averaging nearly 8 2/3 innings per start.

OMG you guys, what about the PITCH COUNTS?? What were the PITCHER ABUSE POINTS??

Pfft, dumb managers, I bet these guys fell off the face of the earth after this abuse. What a shame.
 
Carlton threw 346 innings that season.

I could only imagine the whiny faggotry somebody like Keith Law would have written had he been around back then.
 
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