Does having Joe Rogan as the color analyst hurt MMA's credibility?

[Liquidrob]

Now, don't get me wrong, I like Joe Rogan, he has his faults like everyone, but overall I don't mind him, but I can't think of another sport that has the lead analyst with no experience in the sport he is commenting on, throw in that the UFC gets the most attention in the media and it makes it worse, so your lead analyst breaking down the action is a comedian who trains BJJ?

Joe has never fought, never coached, pretty much has zero MMA experience

NFL, NBA, MLB, Tennis, etc...all have ex-players and coaches, not just guys who have trained in the sport, but have actually experience in the sport, atleast I can't think of any

Maybe the UFC should just dump Goldberg, he brings nothing to the broadcast anyway, make Rogan play by play and let a fighter or coach be the analyst

 

[SuperKevin]

Isn't Rogan like a world class martial artist though?

 

[Liquidrob]

Isn't Rogan like a world class martial artist though?

lol!

 

[SuperKevin]

Sorry. I thought I had head that he had won a bunch of Taekwondo championships or something

 

[Liquidrob]

Sorry. I thought I had head that he had won a bunch of Taekwondo championships or something

oh, you were serious, I thought you were making fun of Rogan calling everyone 'world class'

 

[SuperKevin]

oh, you were serious, I thought you were making fun of Rogan calling everyone 'world class'

I wish I was that clever

You may retract your thanks

 

[Liquidrob]

I wish I was that clever

You may retract your thanks

Rogan did compete in TKD tourneys when he was a teenager, not sure what he won, but far from being a 'world class' martial artist, I just found it funny you used world class, keep your thanks!

 

[JeremyHight]

I'd rather hear Joe Rogan than any of the other shitty analysts I've heard over the years. He is a guy who immediately connects with the viewer and knows his shit. You don't need to be some ol' fighter to be an analyst. Rogan is a better analyst than some of the other guys were fighters.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Other then when Joe kinda gets a boner for someone and is blatantly bias, I enjoy him. He works very hard to be knowledgeable on the sport and does a good job of playing of Goldberg's moronic comments. Plus he has a lot of charisma and a genuine love for the sport himself, which is important.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Rogan is knowledgable, enthusiastic, and appeals to the prime demo UFC wants to attract. I dont think his lack of backround really matters.

 

[SHOGUN]

I'd rather hear Joe Rogan than any of the other shitty analysts I've heard over the years. He is a guy who immediately connects with the viewer and knows his shit. You don't need to be some ol' fighter to be an analyst. Rogan is a better analyst than some of the other guys were fighters.

Other then when Joe kinda gets a boner for someone and is blatantly bias, I enjoy him. He works very hard to be knowledgeable on the sport and does a good job of playing of Goldberg's moronic comments. Plus he has a lot of charisma and a genuine love for the sport himself, which is important.

Rogan is knowledgable, enthusiastic, and appeals to the prime demo UFC wants to attract. I dont think his lack of backround really matters.

Co-sign.

 

[EmpireWF]

Rogan is a great asset. He loves the sport and is as knowledgeable as any other broadcaster in the sport. Perhaps as important, he speaks clearly and intelligently.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

He needs to emulate Brock Lesnar fucking him in the ass more, but other than that, he is good for the sport.

 

[Liquidrob]

I dont' think you guys are really getting my point, this isnt is Rogan good or not, I think is does a pretty good job actually, but the point is for a sport to be credible shouldn't the analyst actually be credible?

Of course Joe is fun to listen to, passionate about the sport and is knowledgable to a degree, but a analyst should be able to draw from his experiences and Joe has no MMA experience, a lot different when say Mir can talk about trying to sweep a 250 lbs HW while getting punched compared to Joe pulling from what happened in BJJ class the other night

Look at every other sport, you have Super Bowl QB's, winning coaches, pro's who have done this there entire life, etc...when you have other sports with Troy Aikman breaking down the on field action who played and won at the highest level, or do you want a comedian with a brown belt in BJJ?

Rogan can't give you what Bas, Randy, Pulver, Pat, Frank, Mir, etc...give you, even if you don't 'like' listening to them, they have done it on that level, not just trained part time and watched a lot of fights

Just a thought

 

[Point Blank]

I don't mind Rogan at all.

 

[EmpireWF]

I dont' think you guys are really getting my point, this isnt is Rogan good or not, I think is does a pretty good job actually, but the point is for a sport to be credible shouldn't the analyst actually be credible?

Of course Joe is fun to listen to, passionate about the sport and is knowledgable to a degree, but a analyst should be able to draw from his experiences and Joe has no MMA experience, a lot different when say Mir can talk about trying to sweep a 250 lbs HW while getting punched compared to Joe pulling from what happened in BJJ class the other night

Look at every other sport, you have Super Bowl QB's, winning coaches, pro's who have done this there entire life, etc...when you have other sports with Troy Aikman breaking down the on field action who played and won at the highest level, or do you want a comedian with a brown belt in BJJ?

Rogan can't give you what Bas, Randy, Pulver, Pat, Frank, Mir, etc...give you, even if you don't 'like' listening to them, they have done it on that level, not just trained part time and watched a lot of fights

Just a thought

Frankly (no pun intended, I swear), I've never given that much thought.

Rogan talks as if he has done MMA before (besides training) and when has the fact he has not ever made him less credible? He's usually able to explain clearly what a fighter is attempting to do whether it's stand-up or what appears to be a complicated jiu-jitsu hold.

If the fact it's Joe Rogan doing color for the UFC hinders the opinion of a viewer, I'd imagine after a fight or two that fact would wear off.

Maybe it's because I'm so use to him by now, but I think Rogan is the best in the biz. I see Mir as the #2 guy but at times he can go off on tangents about certain moves (not saying it sucks, but it's hilarious at times). The fact Rogan is not an MMA fighter doesn't make me think any less of the broadcast.

But you're talking to a bunch of guys who have been watching all kinds of MMA for years.

You'd have to ask a casual viewer to get an honest answer.

 

[Liquidrob]

I can break down all the moves and explain what is going on, so can a lot of people who have trained and watched the sport from the beginning, but do you want us to be the color analyst of the premier MMA promotion in the world?

I think a 3 man booth with an actual fighter would make the show and the UFC more credible, or even better axe Goldie and make Rogan the play by play guy and have a guy like Randy, how much better would the booth be with Rogan and Couture compared to Goldie and Rogan

 

[Steel Mamba]

If anything it should help it. On paper it looks a bit amatuer having Rogan on, but once you hear him call a fight you have to respect the work he does. The only people who are going to discredit MMA because of Rogan are the ones who are close minded and don't want to give MMA a chance in the first place. No one can watch a UFC broadcast and say that he isn't the right guy for the job. He knows MMA, you couldn't tell that hes never fought by how much he knows, and I put him right up there with the likes of Bas and I think Frank is pretty good too.

If anyone needs to improve their broadcasts or bring in more talent it's the other major sports. In pro sports how many truly great broadcast teams are there? Personally the only guys I like are Mark Jackson/Van Gundy calling the NBA games. The NFL has a lot of ex-players/coaches, but rarely do they drop anything that the average fan can't see or doesn't already know their selves. Rogan breaks down the technical aspects of his sport better than the majority of commentators out there IMO.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I always enjoyed when Randy was in the booth during his "retirement". IMO, the UFC should have special guests more often.. Randy used to do it all the time, now it seems its never done.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I dont' think you guys are really getting my point, this isnt is Rogan good or not, I think is does a pretty good job actually, but the point is for a sport to be credible shouldn't the analyst actually be credible?

Of course Joe is fun to listen to, passionate about the sport and is knowledgable to a degree, but a analyst should be able to draw from his experiences and Joe has no MMA experience, a lot different when say Mir can talk about trying to sweep a 250 lbs HW while getting punched compared to Joe pulling from what happened in BJJ class the other night

Look at every other sport, you have Super Bowl QB's, winning coaches, pro's who have done this there entire life, etc...when you have other sports with Troy Aikman breaking down the on field action who played and won at the highest level, or do you want a comedian with a brown belt in BJJ?

Rogan can't give you what Bas, Randy, Pulver, Pat, Frank, Mir, etc...give you, even if you don't 'like' listening to them, they have done it on that level, not just trained part time and watched a lot of fights

Just a thought

To be honest...the idea of having a former pro as the color guy is something that is just sweeping all sports, and to be honest, I'm very ho hum on the idea. Its just an over saturation at this point. And really, when looking at all of these sports with those color guys, they really do not add anything to the broadcast that couldn't be added by a non-professional. They really don't supply the depth and vision that you'd expect...after watching these sports for years, I've pretty much determined that whether its Brian Gumbel or Troy Aikman, they are pretty much saying the same thing. The depth is the same.

In regards to Joe v. Bas or Randy...Randy is a nice guy to go to for a quick in depth look before a fight, but in regards to keeping up with the broadcast, I feel as though Joe is just on another level and during the fight, actually provides the same level of analysis as a Randy. Now, Randy or Bas or Frank Mir or whomever as a guy you go to before the fight with a scripted analysis or post-fight for some analysis is what they should do to provide some depth to the programming, but in regards to taking a seat over Joe...no need, they provide the same amount of commentary with nuts, but presented in a far weaker manner.

When you are watching NFL Countdown, for example...does Tom Jackson, Keyshawn, Mike Ditka, etc. provide you with any thing that Chris Berman doesn't already tell you? Not really, IMO. while they do have a wealth of experience in the sport, its not really used in any credible manner for the programming.