Does having Joe Rogan as the color analyst hurt MMA's credibility?

[EmpireWF]

I can break down all the moves and explain what is going on, so can a lot of people who have trained and watched the sport from the beginning, but do you want us to be the color analyst of the premier MMA promotion in the world?

I think a 3 man booth with an actual fighter would make the show and the UFC more credible, or even better axe Goldie and make Rogan the play by play guy and have a guy like Randy, how much better would the booth be with Rogan and Couture compared to Goldie and Rogan

I wouldn't want Rogan as the PBP guy. That guy has to shill and promote everything which is what Goldberger does best. He's not terrible at actually calling the action either.

When Florian does color sometimes, he's fine but his voice is kind of annoying (just me?).

If you know your shit and can verbalize well, I don't see what's the big problem.

I doubt someone is watching a UFC show, saying hey there's that guy from Fear Factor on commentary...I'm turning off.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

i dont mind rogan. his nuthugging is a bit much (especially his fascination with aoki) at times but like most people have said hes quite knowledgeable about the sport and he does bring a good excitement to the broadcast. IMO nothing can top the team of quadros and bas.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Jim Lampley , Bob Costas , Marv Albert , Al Michaels , Al Bernstein

All say GTFO outta here.


Everytime UFC has invited a fighter into the booth theyve sucked ass. Randy Couture was the only tolerable one.
Bas Rutten and Frank Shamrock are hard to listen to even thought they have great insight.
It takes a good voice , great energy , and a good amount of knowledge to be an analyst. Seeing that Goldberg is a colorman in the purest form it shows how good Rogan is since most colormen today try hard to leak over to the analyst perspective.

Like mentioned before only ones who would hold it against UFC are usually the ones looking to dislike MMA.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Jim Lampley , Bob Costas , Marv Albert , Al Michaels , Al Bernstein

All say GTFO outta here.


Everytime UFC has invited a fighter into the booth theyve sucked ass. Randy Couture was the only tolerable one.
Bas Rutten and Frank Shamrock are hard to listen to even thought they have great insight.
It takes a good voice , great energy , and a good amount of knowledge to be an analyst. Seeing that Goldberg is a colorman in the purest form it shows how good Rogan is since most colormen today try hard to leak over to the analyst perspective.

Like mentioned before only ones who would hold it against UFC are usually the ones looking to dislike MMA.

i thought kenny florian was pretty good

 

[EmpireWF]

Jim Lampley , Bob Costas , Marv Albert , Al Michaels , Al Bernstein

All say GTFO outta here.


Everytime UFC has invited a fighter into the booth theyve sucked ass. Randy Couture was the only tolerable one.
Bas Rutten and Frank Shamrock are hard to listen to even thought they have great insight.
It takes a good voice , great energy , and a good amount of knowledge to be an analyst. Seeing that Goldberg is a colorman in the purest form it shows how good Rogan is since most colormen today try hard to leak over to the analyst perspective.

Like mentioned before only ones who would hold it against UFC are usually the ones looking to dislike MMA.

The top guys mentioned are play by play guys. We're talking color men.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The color guys that are in or have been major players in the sport are nice, just not for the whole broadcast. They can inject their insight in vignettes before the fight and after...but during the fights, I would venture to say its just not their place.

They have a lot of practice to go before they get on Rogan's level.

 

[Liquidrob]

Jim Lampley , Bob Costas , Marv Albert , Al Michaels , Al Bernstein

All say GTFO outta here.

fail?

 

[Liquidrob]

Would you find it strange for the NFL to have Al Michaels and Dennis Miller in the booth for football games?

How about say Gus Johnson and Adam Sandler doing basketball games? Isnt it odd that the UFC has a booth with zero experience in MMA?

If you want to keep Goldberg in there to shill, thats fine, Joe is also great, but put a former fighter in there everytime, Randy, Mir, Kenny, Pulver, etc...these guys don't have the appeal of Rogan, but they give you what a credible booth needs, actually MMA experience

You want people on the outside to take this sport serious, kind of hard when your analyst is a comedian who trains BJJ when he has free time

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

What's your deal with credibility? The sport has already gained TONS this past decade, with Rogan doing the commentating for a lot of it. This seems like someone you and other MMA purists would propose this about the casual fan when it seems the casual fan has barely even noticed.....

This is true. Casuals fans really dont give a fuck if Joe Rogan has never fought, hes pretty damn good at his job and thats all they notice. Plus, he certainly likes to make it sound like he does fight, lol. Always saying "we" in reference to BJJ practitioners and shit. Rob's just trying to draw up discussion tho, and lobby for his boy Frank to get a job in the UFC booth.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Would you find it strange for the NFL to have Al Michaels and Dennis Miller in the booth for football games?

How about say Gus Johnson and Adam Sandler doing basketball games? Isnt it odd that the UFC has a booth with zero experience in MMA?

If you want to keep Goldberg in there to shill, thats fine, Joe is also great, but put a former fighter in there everytime, Randy, Mir, Kenny, Pulver, etc...these guys don't have the appeal of Rogan, but they give you what a credible booth needs, actually MMA experience

You want people on the outside to take this sport serious, kind of hard when your analyst is a comedian who trains BJJ when he has free time

That would depend on if Dennis Miller is actually knowledgable about the sport.

Like I mentioned earlier...you do not need "credibility" in the booth to have a credible broadcast team. That is a concept that is fairly new and the result has been mixed at best with fail at worst considering every team now has to have the PbP guy and the color guy that happens to be a former player. Most sports are better off muted than listening to the commentary because of it.

I ask this...other than the subjective "credibility"...what do Randy or Goldberg or whomever have over Rogan or what do they provide that Rogan can not to a broadcast.

Before you say "expertise" or some sort in depth knowledge of the sport...think to the last time you heard something from any of the former players during a broadcast of any sport that was something that wasn't generic or boxed. I can't recall one. To me, former pro or current nerd, they all say pretty much the same shit anyway, which to me, makes the idea of having a credible color guy pointless, especially when they are very much behind the curve in regards how they actually present the product.

I think the UFC needs to have more former fighters on (maybe even regulars), but as guys who provide an analysis before and/or after the fights (maybe even between rounds), but during? No need as they will actually take away from the product over someone like Super Joe.

I know you are just being a contrarian, but alas...

 

[Liquidrob]

This is not an anti-rogan thread, or Joe should be replaced, I have already said that Rogan does a good job

Rogan basically calls out moves, he knows names which the majority of people train know, but Joe is a fan first, he picks sides and loves bjj, he makes it exciting because he thinks like a fan, but you dont need a fan being the main analyst IMO

Now think about when Tito and Chuck fight....again, would you rather here Rogan calling them 'world class' all fight and talk about there 'bad blood' or here from Randy who doesnt care who wins and has fought them both

I'm just saying go with a 3 man booth all the time, Goldberg is awful and can shill and sell shit all broadcast long, Rogan is the super fan who knows bjj and than an actually fighter who knows what it is like to fight from experience, not from watching a bunch of fights

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

The top guys mentioned are play by play guys. We're talking color men.

As I said before. There was play by play and analysts. The distinction is isnt there anymore the way it used to be.

3 man booths and throwing in not related to the sport guys has become common place. None of those guys I listed are pure play by play guys anymore and haven't been for decades.