Fact or Fiction: The Broncos would have made the playoffs with Cutler over Orton

[FirstTimer]

While that is true, It did take a long time for Cutler and his WR to team up and be on the same page.

Hell, Knox was still running wrong routes only a couple of weeks ago. I honestly think if you gave Cutler another year with Marshall and Royal they would be in the playoffs.

Try 2 days ago.

 

[FirstTimer]

I was on the field so it is harder to see players make mistakes at that level. Did Cutler have to bring him aside again?

There was a play in the second half where Knox was running a quick slant and the DB bumped him and he stopped on the route. Cutler fired the ball and he was lucky it wasn't picked. It was pretty similar to play where Knox stopped on a quick slant in Week 1 vs Green Bay where the Packers actually picked it off.


Cutler was less than happy. It didn't show him talking to Knox after the play on the sideline but I assume a conversation did occur.

There was also a play in the first half where Olsen ran the wrong route on a blitz hot read.

How were you down on the field? Cool stuff.

 

[FirstTimer]

They need to iron that stuff out..It's ridiculous.

I have been interning for the Bears for 2 years, so I am on the field for every home game.

Nice. How'd you land that gig? What do you do for them?

 

[FirstTimer]

I'll send you a PM, I don't want to derail the thread.

This is VSN.

No worries

Got the PM. I'll hit you back.

 

[Bear Pand]

Fact: Kyle Orton > Matt Hasselbeck

 

[FirstTimer]

This is VSN.

No worries

Got the PM. I'll hit you back.

Fact: Kyle Orton > Matt Hasselbeck

See what I mean.

 

[BigHouseUSA]

Ignoring all the off the field problems. I think they would've been better with Cutler. It's a completely different situation than Chicago, he had far more weapons, and would be put in a simple offense where it's extremely hard to make mistakes.

 

[Juggernaut]

They would have not made the playoffs, Orton is a better game manager and would have kept the broncos in games

Cutler would have gun slinged his way to a 5/6 loss season.

Good God hes just like Brett Favre, except i hate him.

 

[Archer]

McDaniels system demands somebody who won't turn the ball over and can make simple short reads . I'm pretty sure Josh would have went insane by mid-season with Cutler at QB

But record wise I think it would have been about the same like most people have been saying

 

[Nukleopatra]

I'll send you a PM, I don't want to derail the thread.

lmao.

 

[Aso]

Cutler would've been a better QB had he stayed in Denver. Cutler's interceptions probably would've been cut in half. I think the Broncos would've easily made the playoffs with Cutler as their QB.

 

[citizenerased]

They would have not made the playoffs, Orton is a better game manager and would have kept the broncos in games

Cutler would have gun slinged his way to a 5/6 loss season.

Good God hes just like Brett Favre, except i hate him.

I've seen more logical posts from RamsJackson29.

10-6/11-5 is worse then 8-7?

If McDaniels thought he could mold him then he wouldn't have offered him up for Matt Cassel.

I thought the Broncos company line is that McDaniels never wanted to trade him for Cassel and was merely contacted and never seriously considered it.

 

[Nukleopatra]

I've seen more logical posts from RamsJackson29.

10-6/11-5 is worse then 8-7?

No shit.

Thinking Jay Cutler is capable of a 5 to 6 loss season alone, completely screws up his argument..

 

[Aso]

If McDaniels thought he could mold him then he wouldn't have offered him up for Matt Cassel.

You don't know that. Look at what Cassel was to what he became. Jay Cutler's arm is a lot stronger than Cassel's and he has actually had success in the NFL while Cassel was nothing but a backup. You actually think McDaniels looked at Matt Cassel before he came in as the starter and thought to himself, I can make that quarterback who btw has started a game since high school, into a good NFL quarterback. If he can make Matt Cassel into a quarterback worthy of being a starter then he can make Cutler into a better NFL quarterback than what he already was. It's also not like they lost anybody important. They had all the same WR's with the addition of Gaffney, still a good offensive line and a couple new RB's.

Worst comes to worst and Cutler can't play in the same offense that Brady was in they could've done what they did with Cassel and run shotgun 60% of the time.

 

[Esjay]

You don't know that. Look at what Cassel was to what he became. Jay Cutler's arm is a lot stronger than Cassel's and he has actually had success in the NFL while Cassel was nothing but a backup. You actually think McDaniels looked at Matt Cassel before he came in as the starter and thought to himself, I can make that quarterback who btw has started a game since high school, into a good NFL quarterback. If he can make Matt Cassel into a quarterback worthy of being a starter then he can make Cutler into a better NFL quarterback than what he already was. It's also not like they lost anybody important. They had all the same WR's with the addition of Gaffney, still a good offensive line and a couple new RB's.

Worst comes to worst and Cutler can't play in the same offense that Brady was in they could've done what they did with Cassel and run shotgun 60% of the time.

I do think McDaniels believed he could make Cassel into a good NFL quarterback because of the way he plays the position. Cutler is never going to change who he is on the field - big play guy who throws a lot of picks and makes dumb decisions. Cassel isn't like that at all.

 

[Aso]

Still doesn't mean Cutler couldn't adjust to the offense but ok.

 

[Esjay]

Still doesn't mean Cutler couldn't adjust to the offense but ok.

He probably could if he wanted too but that's the thing - he doesn't. He doesn't think he needs too rein it in at all which I'm guessing is why McDaniels wanted to trade him ....

 

[Aso]

I don't think McDaniels ever wanted to trade him, Cutler wanted out.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Fact: Kyle Orton > Matt Hasselbeck

Fact: Kyle Orton would have died by now behind the Seahawks offensive line.

That said, Matt has been playing downright terrible.

 

[Realist]

Whatever happened to that thread where the bronco fan posted about the denver going to the playoff and dogging everyone who posted in it??