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Fact or Fiction: The Broncos would have made the playoffs with Cutler over Orton

I do think McDaniels believed he could make Cassel into a good NFL quarterback because of the way he plays the position. Cutler is never going to change who he is on the field - big play guy who throws a lot of picks and makes dumb decisions. Cassel isn't like that at all.

Cassel hardly looked like a franchise QB in Kansas City.
And he was essentially playing New England's system.

IMO, Cutler wouldn't have gotten Denver in the playoffs ... but mostly because Cutler and McDaniels were never on the same page.

Cutler has the talent for any system, but not the attitude. He wants to be a star, Tom Brady doesn't. Brady does his job.
 
Cassel hardly looked like a franchise QB in Kansas City.
And he was essentially playing New England's system.

IMO, Cutler wouldn't have gotten Denver in the playoffs ... but mostly because Cutler and McDaniels were never on the same page.

Cutler has the talent for any system, but not the attitude. He wants to be a star, Tom Brady doesn't. Brady does his job.

I find it hard to judge Cassel this year considering how much he was running for his life with that o-line and how is it the same O? Haley isin't a NE guy ............... EDIT - He did spend time with Pioli at NYJ but his offense is hardly the same as NE's
 
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No. Orton wasn't the problem. Blame their tough schedule down the stretch, and their Defense faltering late in the season.
 
I found this interesting when looking back at Denver's recent QBs.

Jake Plummer joined the team in 2003, the first of the two 10-6 seasons. He missed five games that year for some sort of injury, and in those games the Broncos went 1-4; with Plummer in the lineup they were 9-2. They made the playoffs, but ran up against the Colts on a day when Peyton Manning was as hot as he's ever been, and lost 41-10 or something like that.

Plummer started all 16 games in the next two seasons. In the playoffs, they suffered another loss to a hot Peyton Manning in 2004, but then beat New England a year later, before losing to the Steelers in the AFC championship game. This was the best season the Broncos had since Elway left, by far.

2003 and 2005 were the two best years of Plummer's career, according to his passing stats, but his stats dropped in 2006. Despite that, the team was still 7-2 after nine games. Then they lost two in a row, dropping to 7-4 -- and the Broncos replaced him with Jay Cutler. They finished with two victories in their last five games, and haven't broken .500 since. They brought in Orton this past year, who was no improvement whatsoever.

To sum up, in the last nine seasons the Broncos have won 43 and lost 46 with anybody other than Plummer playing quarterback; but with him behind center they went 39 and 15.

It seems to me that all this suggests two things: 1) that Plummer might have been a lot better than he was given credit for, and 2) that the Broncos might have made a really poor decision back in 2006.
 
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do you really think its a coincedence that you basically swapped qbs and they pretty much swapped numbers

The Broncos had the 3rd best passing offense in the league last year with Cutler as QB. They had the 13th best this year with Orton. So they went from a very good passing team to a mediocre passing team in the span of one offseason. I wouldn't say they swapped numbers.
 
I just hope we find out that Orton needs to have some kind of bionic ankle put in because of how badly he injured his against Washington... That's the only thing that could explain how far he fell at the end of the season.

I really think the Steelers game was the beginning of the end for the Broncos. Time proved that the Steelers pass defense was not very good, but they completely dominated the Bronco offense by showing no respect for Kyle Orton's arm. They basically put all 11 players in the box and dared Orton to throw the ball over 10 yards. He couldn't. They allowed Orton to complete as many 5-yard passes to Brandon Marshall as he wanted, but they basically kept Denver off the scoreboard and stuffed the run game. I think the Steelers provided the blueprint for stopping the Broncos, and everyone else copied it.
 
Orton needs to figure out a way to stay healthy for a full season. At least one of the Broncos losses is the direct result of him going down. He was having his best game of the season (stats wise) against the Redskins but he got injured. Chris Simms was a huge reason they blew that game since he came out and 3-13 1 INT in the second half. Prior to Curtis Painter that was the worst QB performance I had seen all year.

And I know the Broncos had the #3 ranked passing offense last year, but only in terms of yards and pass attempts. Broncos didn't have the 3rd best overall passing game last year. Cutler still threw the second most INTs in the league and got saved from a game losing turnover against San Diego by Ed Hoculi.

Orton
541 attempts
7.0 yards/attempt
3.9 touchdown %
2.2 interception %

Cutler
616 attempts
7.3 yards/attempt
4.1 touchdown %
2.9 intetception %

Cutler is better than Orton but the Broncos just threw the ball a lot less this year which was the main reason their yardage ranking went down. This year the Broncos ran 440 times and threw 558. Last year they threw 620 and ran 380.
 
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