Fedor, UFC finalizing deal

[Liquidrob]

as long as Fedor keeps fighting who really cares. i just hope he stays away from the freakshow fights. would of been sweet to see Fedor-Lesnar but theres plenty of good fights outside of the UFC.

if that was the case we would never have the term 'Zulu'd', a freak show fight every now and then isnt bad

 

[Hogle]

Its about glove size dummy

Dont you even listen to the UFC commentators? Every time Brock and Shane fight they tell you how big there gloves are for a reason

You need to start listening

ya they talk about glove size because if you hit two things with the same power, but one is bigger, the bigger one will do more damage. The fac is though, the technique, speed, and power of carwin and lesnar's punches are not the same, so the glove size doesn't determine who is the better standup fighter

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

if that was the case we would never have the term 'Zulu'd', a freak show fight every now and then isnt bad

everyone loves a good freakshow fight no doubt, but it almost seems like a "waste" of a fight for fedor. hes getting up there in age and hes not going to be fighting forever. whos to say he wont hang em up when his last 3 fights are done with M-1. hes got nothing left to prove, hes got the money to live comfortably the rest of his life. i just want to see him fight the best out there

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

geez is dana one pi-bolar mfer or what. (from the press confrence today)

"I wasn't a dick at all in negotiating to get Fedor Emelianenko in the UFC. I was the nicest Dana ever."

...and follows that up with this a few minutes later

"You can say Fedor is the best P4P in the world. I don't f**king see it. Fedor doesn't want to fight the best in the world in the UFC, so "F**k him."

 

[Liquidrob]

ya they talk about glove size because if you hit two things with the same power, but one is bigger, the bigger one will do more damage. The fac is though, the technique, speed, and power of carwin and lesnar's punches are not the same, so the glove size doesn't determine who is the better standup fighter

you need to take a class on Ultimate Fighting

 

[SHOGUN]

geez is dana one pi-bolar mfer or what. (from the press confrence today)

:rofl:

What a joke.

 

[RosettaStoned]

ya they talk about glove size because if you hit two things with the same power, but one is bigger, the bigger one will do more damage. The fac is though, the technique, speed, and power of carwin and lesnar's punches are not the same, so the glove size doesn't determine who is the better standup fighter

Dude, stop.

 

[Hogle]

Dude, stop.

Why the fuck are you saying that, you haven't said one useful thing this whole fuckin argument, you just take rob's side and say shit to me that has no relevance to mma what so ever

:gtfo:

 

[RosettaStoned]

Why the fuck are you saying that, you haven't said one useful thing this whole fuckin argument, you just take rob's side and say shit to me that has no relevance to mma what so ever

:gtfo:

You're really too dumb to realize you're being mocked? Fine, carry on stupid fuck. I was just trying to help you realize they're making fun of your stupid ass.

 

[Hogle]

You're really too dumb to realize you're being mocked? Fine, carry on stupid fuck. I was just trying to help you realize they're making fun of your stupid ass.

No shit they were making fun of me. We disagree in almost every thing talked about here in the MMA threads. You thinking you have to tell me they are mocking me for me to realize, makes me think that this is a pretty accurate picture of you

 

[Liquidrob]

dude, just admit you fell for the glove size comment and were taking it serious

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

geez is dana one pi-bolar mfer or what. (from the press confrence today)

Heavyweights outside of the UFC = or > Heavyweights inside the UFC.

Fact.

 

[SHOGUN]

Heavyweights outside of the UFC = or > Heavyweights inside the UFC.

Fact.

Dana and OS disagrees.

 

[RosettaStoned]

No shit they were making fun of me. We disagree in almost every thing talked about here in the MMA threads. You thinking you have to tell me they are mocking me for me to realize, makes me think that this is a pretty accurate picture of you

Yeah sure thing buddy. You fell for it, you dope.

 

[Hogle]

ya i really fell for it. even after someone said it was sarcastic, rob continued to argue and backing up the fact that carwin would KO Lesnar, which makes sense because rob would take a retarded monkey over Lesnar

and btw, get a new fuckin avatar

 

[RosettaStoned]

ya i really fell for it. even after someone said it was sarcastic, rob continued to argue and backing up the fact that carwin would KO Lesnar, which makes sense because rob would take a retarded monkey over Lesnar

Yep, and you continued to get trolled by it, you fucking dumbass.

and btw, get a new fuckin avatar

How about you go fuck yourself, and I'll put that in my avatar?

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Dana and OS disagrees.

Fuck Dana and his non-virgin asshole.

 

[RosettaStoned]

 

[Liquidrob]

LMAO

 

[calgaryballer]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/8/1/972339/mike-chiappetta-the-ufcs-attempt

Speaking to Luke Thomas on MMA Nation today on 106.7 The Fan, AOL Fanhouse MMA writer Mike Chiappetta said that the UFC's urgency to sign a deal possibly set the deal back.

I'm too lazy to transcribe, but here's the gist of what Mike said:

Fedor's been a free agent for a week and a day, it's reasonable that he and his team would want to take some time and field the offers that they have coming in. There are a lot of people interested in promoting Fedor, including I'm sure some people that we are not aware of, people who are new to MMA or are getting back into the game. They want to take some time and think about Fedor's future. This is after all a two or three year commitment and he wants to make sure he's doing the right thing for himself and his future.

This is an excellent point and it really brings home just how unusual these negotiations have been. The UFC brass has been especially impetuous, even by Dana White standards. It is pretty amazing that they have managed to get the fans this riled up and angry at Fedor for not rushing into a deal, no matter how lucrative it is.

The question I'm wrestling with right now is this -- have Dana and the UFC managed to make Fedor an even hotter property? Coming off of UFC 100, there is unprecedented interest in the UFC and MMA. While ESPN has not been giving the Fedor negotiations attention, the dramatic increase in traffic to the MMA media has got to have some impact on the marketplace.

If the UFC has succeeded in making Fedor an even hotter property, they'll be the ones to suffer the consequences. Many in the comments are dismissing Fedor's importance, but if he didn't matter the UFC wouldn't be offering him the world.

If Fedor signs with Strikeforce and gets on CBS, he's a game changer. If Fedor aligns with a major boxing promoter (say Golden Boy) and they get him on HBO, he's a game changer. If Fedor goes to Japan and fights Satori Ishii on live network TV, he's a game changer.

If Fedor signs with the UFC, they have the top fighter in each division according to the USAT/SBN Consensus MMA rankings. At that point UFC = the major leagues of MMA.* Until they have Fedor, or he loses, they're just the best promotion by a very wide margin. If they get Fedor on board, they become a black hole at the center of MMA, pulling all who want to be considered among the world's top fighters into their orbit.

*It can be argued that DREAM and WVR/Sengoku have lightweight divisions that are comparable with the UFC's but no single fighter has put together a case to match that of B.J. Penn's for being the best lightweight fighter in the world.