Game of Thrones

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

You could also be a big fan that doesn't want to avoid the Internet for the next month to risk seeing spoilers.

Good point...Humans suck...so either way someone's a dildo head.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

So am I to understand Varys was actually helping the Taergaryns ? Didn't he tell friend zone to let Daenerys get poisoned ?
Would his help go back as far as helping the babies escape during the final battle ?

 

[SethMode]

So am I to understand Varys was actually helping the Taergaryns ? Didn't he tell friend zone to let Daenerys get poisoned ?
Would his help go back as far as helping the babies escape during the final battle ?

There is a lot of speculation when it comes to Varys' motives. That's a particular part that never really made sense to me, because in the books he seems even more inclined to help the Targs. The show at least has seemed to paint him as something of a "prepare for everything" kind of guy, so he says the right thing for the right situation (in this case, agree with Robert that she needed to be poisoned). That being said, what if Jorah hadn't intervened?

I don't know how much they intend to veer from the books with that plot thread, but if they stick to them, it will get even MORE convoluted later, although it does at least seem like he has always been for bringing the Targs back in some capacity, if only to wipe the slate clean. It seems like he'd also be okay with someone like Tyrion ruling, as, as he has stated, he's more for the good of the realm than some shmuck having a power fantasy.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

There is a lot of speculation when it comes to Varys' motives. That's a particular part that never really made sense to me, because in the books he seems even more inclined to help the Targs. The show at least has seemed to paint him as something of a "prepare for everything" kind of guy, so he says the right thing for the right situation (in this case, agree with Robert that she needed to be poisoned). That being said, what if Jorah hadn't intervened?

I don't know how much they intend to veer from the books with that plot thread, but if they stick to them, it will get even MORE convoluted later, although it does at least seem like he has always been for bringing the Targs back in some capacity, if only to wipe the slate clean. It seems like he'd also be okay with someone like Tyrion ruling, as, as he has stated, he's more for the good of the realm than some shmuck having a power fantasy.

Thank you. That "what if Jorah hadnt intervened" is what confused me. Im leaning much more towards rolling with the punches. Since I kinda slept on the show early on Im often confused to some of the connections. I'm almost done catching up w/BR extras. Ex when Brienne saw Renley die I and others I asked took it as she was crushed that she failed...but apparently she was in love with Renley since childhood..toootally changes that scene.

Another question. I re-watched last 15 mins of S4 finale before starting this season...when Tyrion catches Shay in bed with Tywin he's crushed for obvious reasons...but was Shay ever truly in love with Tyrion or was it all a ploy from the get go, the way Tywin played Tyrion when he was a teen and paid some chick to pretend to love him ?

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat..._quiz_are_these_characters_dead_or_alive.html

19/20 I messed up Old Man Taergaryen at the wall.

 

[dope]

19/20 i forgot that jojen died since we haven't checked in with the bran storyline yet, and we won't all season either.

 

[j.hen]

Another question. I re-watched last 15 mins of S4 finale before starting this season...when Tyrion catches Shay in bed with Tywin he's crushed for obvious reasons...but was Shay ever truly in love with Tyrion or was it all a ploy from the get go, the way Tywin played Tyrion when he was a teen and paid some chick to pretend to love him ?

I think she was in love but was just dumb as shit. She started falling out of love and then when Tyrion had to say what he said to keep her safe she was too stupid to see it for what it was and instead of the truth.

 

[SethMode]

I felt like the book drove home the Shay betrayal better and more obviously. But yeah, I think we were supposed to buy Tyrion sending her away as her motive for screwing him over.

Dope: was it 100% confirmed that Bran wouldn't be in this season? I know that Hodor isn't, but I didn't think I had read that Bran wouldn't be too. I mean, it's unlikely to have one without the other, either way.

Bran is going to look 25 years old the next time he's on screen if he isn't in this season and at the rate that he is growing up.

 

[dope]

Dope: was it 100% confirmed that Bran wouldn't be in this season? I know that Hodor isn't, but I didn't think I had read that Bran wouldn't be too. I mean, it's unlikely to have one without the other, either way.

Bran is going to look 25 years old the next time he's on screen if he isn't in this season and at the rate that he is growing up.

http://www.ew.com/article/2014/11/05/game-of-thrones-why-bran-season-5

http://www.ew.com/article/2014/09/03/bran-stark-game-of-thrones-season-5

first link is David Benioff talking about why he's not in it

second link does say that hbo wouldn't comment or confirm it.

i think he doesn't show up at all, but if he does it'll be in episode 10 where he walks out of the cave and we don't get to see any training.

and yeah that kid grew up A LOT from the first season, going two years without seeing him is going to be crazy.

speaking of ages, this picture is hilarious

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Bitch needs to get control of her dragons and stop making these weirdo ass decisions.
How the heck did that dude take off a mask but not have anything on the floor ?

 

[j.hen]

Proves she needs advisors like Tyrian or even Jorah.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Proves she needs advisors like Tyrian or even Jorah.

She's surrounded by good intended people....but they ain't too bright. I agree entirely.

 

[MrBill]

Proves she needs advisors like Tyrian or even Jorah.

Tyrian would be perfect in that role. He thinks circles around most people when he is too drunk to stand. If she can get her dragons under control and gain Tyrian as an advisor, she will be running shit.

 

[SethMode]

We're going to be out of town next week, so we went ahead and watched episode 4 last night following the end of episode 3. It's been a very good season so far, and fun to watch how it greatly diverges from the book (enjoy show watchers! The Tyrion conclusion of episode 3 took almost an entire tome of super boring shit to get to).

All of that being said, the conclusion to episode 4 was very weird. From a traditional show standpoint, I don't really get why they shot it the way they did. If you're curious about spoilers:

 

Are Barry the Bold and Greyworm dead? Barry gets straight up stabbed in what appears to be the chest, but what has me questioning it is why they would have the Harpy go for the throat slit only to have Greyworm stop it. I feel like not pulling the trigger with the throat slit in that manner indicates that Barry will still be alive. He's been very important to Dany's development, and they did introduce that Red Priestess...so maybe they'll bring him back to life like Dondarrion? Regardless of no throat slit, SOMETHING has to happen that is magical, because he was stabbed like 4 times.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

lol "if youre curious about spoilers" ...well geez I am now!!... but I wont click and ruin it for myself.
3rd of the way through the season and not much has happened but this was the least action heavy book no ?
I just keep saying its back to s1 Game of Talking but this time Im paying closer attention. Briennes reveal about Renley was cool , if I hadnt re-watched on BR recently it would have been the "ooooh I get it" moment about why she was so damn emotional when he died.

 

[SethMode]

lol "if youre curious about spoilers" ...well geez I am now!!... but I wont click and ruin it for myself.
3rd of the way through the season and not much has happened but this was the least action heavy book no ?
I just keep saying its back to s1 Game of Talking but this time Im paying closer attention. Briennes reveal about Renley was cool , if I hadnt re-watched on BR recently it would have been the "ooooh I get it" moment about why she was so damn emotional when he died.

Well, I just meant if you don't want to just watch the version out there. It's not a book spoiler, it's an episode 4 spoiler. You too can see it if you're so inclined (or you could, if you weren't an HD snob!)!

That part is SO much better than the book. In the book, she's kind of just head-over-heels about Renly. Granted, the proclivities of Renly are much less obvious in the book, but it's still something that seemingly everyone but Brienne knows about, and IIRC Jaime even taunts her about it at some point and she's just oblivious/in denial.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Well, I just meant if you don't want to just watch the version out there. It's not a book spoiler, it's an episode 4 spoiler. You too can see it if you're so inclined (or you could, if you weren't an HD snob!)!

That part is SO much better than the book. In the book, she's kind of just head-over-heels about Renly. Granted, the proclivities of Renly are much less obvious in the book, but it's still something that seemingly everyone but Brienne knows about, and IIRC Jaime even taunts her about it at some point and she's just oblivious/in denial.

Lmao @HD snob.

Yeah I've heard the Renley thing is way more overt than in the book where it's more alluded to than anything else. I love Briennes character and storyline thus far.

 

[dope]

so yeah this week is the last week of the leaked episodes right? so next week i'll finally have a new episode to watch right?

as awesome it was to see all those episodes it did kinda suck that i had waited so long to the show to return then i go and have to wait another month after watching the leaked episodes lol

 

[SethMode]

so yeah this week is the last week of the leaked episodes right? so next week i'll finally have a new episode to watch right?

as awesome it was to see all those episodes it did kinda suck that i had waited so long to the show to return then i go and have to wait another month after watching the leaked episodes lol

Yeah man...we'll probably rewatch this week, just because we don't have anything else to do, but you'll finally be able to hop back on board as far as I know. I'm happy we only caved and watched one of the episodes early.

What did you think of episode 4's conclusion?

 

[j.hen]

I'm glad I watched them all early, I have HBO GO so I can watch the ones that have aired whenever I want. Definitely plan on refreshing on episodes 3 and 4 before next weekend.