I have more than 50 untouchables, my top 3 ribbons are Nemesis (obviously) x270, Killing Spree x230, Solid x 221. The sawed off takes no skill, the retro lancer takes no skill other than the ability to look at someone.
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This game is amazing but both those weapons ruin it. I can't wait for MLG because I know they won't allow either of those other than as a power weapon on the map or something like that.
Every single time I get killed by a retro or a SOS I switch my mains to the same thing, then proceed to murder the faggots who used it on me. I could start out 2-3 because of a SOS or Plancer then end up going 16-3 because I took mine out. This happens almost every single match.