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"He's a top 5 Quarterback" - Philip Rivers.

Philip Rivers is an absolute douche bag.

But he's a douche bag who can throw, and I have no issues putting him in the top five, ahead of Roethlisberger.

He also throws like a bitch, though.
 
I have no problems with calling Rivers a top 5 QB

I do and I dont, love the guy playing injured int eh playoffs a couple years back and theres no doubt he has skill... but with Brett playing so well I think it makes things harder, WITHOUT Brett my top 5 are:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Rodgers
5. McNabb or Rivers can't decide

Honorable Mentions: Kurt Warner, Ben Roethlisberger... Palmer somewhere around there but injured too often I think Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Warner, McNabb, Rodgers, Brees are the only 7 players that should be mentioned on ANYBODY's list of top 5. rate them as you may.
 
I do and I dont, love the guy playing injured int eh playoffs a couple years back and theres no doubt he has skill... but with Brett playing so well I think it makes things harder, WITHOUT Brett my top 5 are:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Rodgers
5. McNabb or Rivers can't decide

Honorable Mentions: Kurt Warner, Ben Roethlisberger... Palmer somewhere around there but injured too often I think Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Warner, McNabb, Rodgers, Brees are the only 7 players that should be mentioned on ANYBODY's list of top 5. rate them as you may.

I would put Rivers ahead of Rodgers and McNabb
 
Rivers has the UGLIEST but best deep ball throw. Maybe he throws it so wierd because he doesnt have the best arm and thatshow he gets himself to throw so far.
 
Stop with the Rodgers being a top 5 qb.

He is similar to Romo and I don't see how you put him above Romo.

If Romo isn't a top 5 qb then neither is Rodgers. (I don't think Romo is a top 5 qb btw, top 10 yes but not top 5. Same with Rodgers, he is a top 10 QB imo)
 
Stop with the Rodgers being a top 5 qb.

He is similar to Romo and I don't see how you put him above Romo.

If Romo isn't a top 5 qb then neither is Rodgers. (I don't think Romo is a top 5 qb btw, top 10 yes but not top 5. Same with Rodgers, he is a top 10 QB imo)

I'd put him above Romo. You can blame Dallas' losses on Romo and the offense where as Rodgers puts up crazy numbers behind a shit offensive line with a marginal running game plus last year's Packers defense sucked and gave away games Rodgers had won and this year the Packers defense has pretty much been marginal when not playing Jay Cutler.(They are ranked 2nd in yards this year but 11th in points which I always put way more stock in when evaluating a defense.)

I'd put Rodgers over Romo in a heart beat.
 
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I've been saying it all along.

And I have yet to see one person credit his WRs for carrying him.

Must be a #13 thing.

I'm assuming because everybody looks at his WR's and already knows it's not Rivers that's benefiting from playing with Chris Chambers/Vincent Jackson (who didn't come into his own until this season)/whatever other WR he had. Outside of an awesome TE in Antonio Gates the Chargers haven't had shit at WR since Anthony Miller haha.
 
I'd put him above Romo. You can blame Dallas' losses on Romo and the offense where as Rodgers puts up crazy numbers behind a shit offensive line with a marginal running game plus last year's Packers defense sucked and gave away games Rodgers had won and this year the Packers defense has pretty much been marginal when not playing Jay Cutler.(They are ranked 2nd in yards this year but 11th in points which I always put way more stock in when evaluating a defense.)

I'd put Rodgers over Romo in a heart beat.

Rodgers came in after GB was 13-3 and the team went 6-10, with the same players. He had games last year where he could have led the team to a game winning touchdown but couldn't get it done.

Green Bay's line started shitty but have gotten better. Don't get confused, Dallas' offensive line is not a pass blocking line, they are a run blocking line. Romo doesn't take as many sacks because he is elusive and has the ability to get away from the pressure.

Romo hasn't done anything clutch and neither has Rodgers. (By clutch I mean doing anything in the playoffs. Romo has brought Dallas from behind many times, Rodgers has not)

Romo takes a team that was consistently 5-11 and 8-8 and brings them to 13-3 and to the playoffs.

Rodgers takes a 13-3 team and brings them to 6-10. Yet you put Rodgers over Romo in a heartbeat?
 
I do and I dont, love the guy playing injured int eh playoffs a couple years back and theres no doubt he has skill... but with Brett playing so well I think it makes things harder, WITHOUT Brett my top 5 are:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Brees
4. Rodgers
5. McNabb or Rivers can't decide

Honorable Mentions: Kurt Warner, Ben Roethlisberger... Palmer somewhere around there but injured too often I think Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger, Warner, McNabb, Rodgers, Brees are the only 7 players that should be mentioned on ANYBODY's list of top 5. rate them as you may.

I'm assuming you forgot to place Rivers in that list of 7 players? I think if you're going to include Rodgers then you can include other guys like Romo.

I think any top 5 list should include only from this list: Manning, Brady, Brees, Warner, Rivers, Favre.... MAYBE Roethlisberger, McNabb.
 
Much as I hate the guy Rivers is a superstar and would rank in my top 3. I can't think of the last time where I said Rivers lost his team the game. He has totally transitioned that team even as LT has declined. He'll win a Super Bowl one day I just hope it's not in San Diego.

Good post. If it means anything to you (which it doesn't), I have much less hate for Orton than I do for Cutler.
 
Rodgers came in after GB was 13-3 and the team went 6-10.
You're kidding right?

Rodgers and the Green Bay offense were FAR from the issue last year. In 2007 the team was ranked 4th in PPG. 2008 5th. The defense on the other hand went from being ranked 6th to being ranked 22nd. Ask any Packers fan or anyone who actually watched that team who the issue was on 2008 with the Packers. It sure as hell wasn't Rodgers.

I seriously question how much you know about the Packers or even football in general.


He had games last year where he could have led the team to a game winning touchdown but couldn't get it done.
Really? Which games were those? Because for each one of those I promise you I can find more examples of Rodgers leading the offense to a lead then the defense either giving up the lead in the 4th quarter or pissing it away in the final minutes.
Week 10 Minnesota
Week 13 Carolina
Week 14 Houston
Week 15 Jacksonville
Week 16 Chicago



Green Bay's line started shitty but have gotten better.
They still aren't good. Getting better than being awful doesn't really mean a whole lot if they still suck.

Don't get confused, Dallas' offensive line is not a pass blocking line, they are a run blocking line.
LOL at me being the confused one..

Romo doesn't take as many sacks because he is elusive and has the ability to get away from the pressure.
Ha! Have you seen how mobile Rodgers is? Rodgers is perhaps one of the most mobile QB's in the game and is great at rolling out.

Do you even watch football?


Romo hasn't done anything clutch and neither has Rodgers. (By clutch I mean doing anything in the playoffs. Romo has brought Dallas from behind many times, Rodgers has not)
Rodgers has too....but he has also watched his defense give up those comebacks on repeated occasions.


Romo takes a team that was consistently 5-11 and 8-8 and brings them to 13-3 and to the playoffs.
Romo being better than Drew Bledsoe doesn't make him that damn good.

Rodgers takes a 13-3 team and brings them to 6-10. Yet you put Rodgers over Romo in a heartbeat?
Yeah because clearly Rodgers was the problem last year in Green Bay when he put up eerily similar numbers to Favre:

Favre 2007: 4155yds 28tds 15ints 66% 95.7rating
Rodgers 2008: 4038 28tds 13ints 64% 93.8rating

Yeah it was clearly Rodgers fault...not the defense that fell from 6th to 22nd.

Are you done not knowing what you are talking about yet?
 
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Favre 2007: 4155yds 28tds 15ints 66% 95.7rating
Rodgers 2008: 4038 28tds 15ints 64% 93.8rating

Yeah it was clearly Rodgers fault...not the defense that fell from 6th to 22nd.

Are you done not knowing what you are talking about yet?

Arizona was ranked 19th in defense, only giving up 3 yards less per game than Green Bay, yet made it to the playoffs and superbowl.

An elite Quarterback can win with a below average defense.

Aaron Rodgers is not a top 5 NFL quarterback..... yet.
 
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