Interesting take on RedZone Channel

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

You must be drunk, this shit is so wrong, its silly, and the fact that you don't even know WHAT you're arguing just further proves that. I couldn't have laid it out anymore clearly and this post does nothing to refute anything I've said.

The NFL under no circumstances, outside of OOMP, has innovated or invented anything...DirecTV using technology as beta for other packages YEARS before the NFL incorporates it is absolutely silly and has zero grounds for anything you are typing.

The NFL isn't the leader in presentation at all...that would be MLB. Outside of OOMB (of which they debuted a year later FWIW), they have been on the cusp of nearly everything you see in a broadcast for other sports. Everything you see during a broadcast was used for and by MLB first. DTV has taken an insane amount of technology from other companies. As for all of the bells and whistles you are talking about...Extra Innings had those when they joined other broadcasting companies, which I want to say is around 01/02 around there. Stuff like "Game Mix" and whatever you want to title stuff like the RZC or MLB's "StrikeZone" was done first on NBATV when you had ol Rick Kamla guiding you through what you saw on the screen and where to watch. They started a lot of that stuff online before it was transitioned over to TV.

Your example to Apple earlier in this own thread is about as spot on as can be...they don't invest or innovate anything...but they market the fuck out of it and make it easily accessible to the GenPop...you are now trying to enter the spin zone of trying to justify them as being leaders in the market. You are out of your mind.

I've done extensive research on this when I was in college...you are so wrong on many levels in this discussion...I'm not going to bust out a 25 page paper on the subject...I'm just going to leave it as, you are wrong. Fin. Continue on.

If you want to tell me that the NFL has innovated and gave points that included Steve Sabol's videography techniques or mic'd up coaches and players...sure. You telling me that the NFL's current broadcast format is their own doing? Laughable.

Youre lost. Im assuming you got a C- on your paper. You have no functional idea of how the tech was incorporated or why. You are nitpicking without a clue. Your Tivo facts are wrong , your DTV facts are wrong, hell DTV "stole" much of its interactive stuff form OpenSource to begin. Your argument is flawed. End of story.
The entire premise behind interacting not simply displaying items also seems to be lost on you. Apple did in fact innovate just not what people think they did. Which is the same principle here. Without DTV tivo is dead. Without NFL DTV and others wouldn't have half the features they do. As I said you want to go patent hunting go right ahead. Im sure youll mention the Olympic triple cast and VH1s pop up video by the time youre done.

 

[MVPete]

Youre lost. Im assuming you got a C- on your paper. You have no functional idea of how the tech was incorporated or why. You are nitpicking without a clue. Your Tivo facts are wrong , your DTV facts are wrong, hell DTV "stole" much of its interactive stuff form OpenSource to begin. Your argument is flawed. End of story.
The entire premise behind interacting not simply displaying items also seems to be lost on you. Apple did in fact innovate just not what people think they did. Which is the same principle here. Without DTV tivo is dead. Without NFL DTV and others wouldn't have half the features they do. As I said you want to go patent hunting go right ahead. Im sure youll mention the Olympic triple cast and VH1s pop up video by the time youre done.

 

[Villain]

My two favorite points from the post:

*It's impossible to watch with people unless you all maintain a monkish silence. Any party with RedZone will result in a murder—either of the party itself or any understanding of what the hell happened in the NFL. You either force yourself to make eye contact with people and chat, or you stare willfully at the TV, making disjointed idiot-talk at each other. "I agree, Adrian. I think ... well ... with the Browns ... you just ... game management ... you ... you manage the, uh ... the disappointment ... in the, uh ... in the game." Any prolonged attempt to split the difference between being jacked in to the RedZone or being a social human being makes you start saying vacuous word-fill like Thom Brennaman.


*You can't do anything else, because you will get lost. Mom's calling? Forget about it. Cook dinner? Ahahahaha. One of the nice things about regular NFL broadcasts lasting three hours but only having about 11 minutes of action is that you can still follow the game while firing up the grill or taking a phone call. With RedZone, 20 minutes spent mentally occupied results in games turning into mush.

My sports-watching is limited to full-games, unless there are a few things I want to check in on at once (one Saturday in fall it was sonething like Notre Dame Football on one channel, UCLA on another, the World Series on another channel, and then a Clipper game - all with overlapping game times). So I'll flip between sports often if the situation calls for it, but even then it'll be one game dominating my attention and I'll just be checking scores. Sometimes on a score-check it will appear to be a crucial moment and I'll see it through.

I thought that was how everyone watched sports.


I also love to cook and entertain so I'm also watching games while cooking, even if it's just for me. If it's a Sunday in June and I've got nothing really going on in the middle of the day, I'll make myself a "fancy" burger or pizza while watching a 1pm Dodger game by myself.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Youre lost. Im assuming you got a C- on your paper. You have no functional idea of how the tech was incorporated or why. You are nitpicking without a clue. Your Tivo facts are wrong , your DTV facts are wrong, hell DTV "stole" much of its interactive stuff form OpenSource to begin. Your argument is flawed. End of story.
The entire premise behind interacting not simply displaying items also seems to be lost on you. Apple did in fact innovate just not what people think they did. Which is the same principle here. Without DTV tivo is dead. Without NFL DTV and others wouldn't have half the features they do. As I said you want to go patent hunting go right ahead. Im sure youll mention the Olympic triple cast and VH1s pop up video by the time youre done.

All of which would continue to make you wrong.

I'm not the one lost, you said

"Ill completely disagree with Larry. NFL has been a massive leader in broadcasting changes."

Um, they haven't...I've listed a multitude a areas where they have not. You continue to believe so.

Next thing you know, KoF will be telling me the NFL is behind HDTV, 3D TV, and VCRs.

Yeah, without the NFL, all of the other features wouldn't be there, despite all of the features being used elsewhere in some instances YEARS before the NFL got them...and then you try and say that was for "beta testing"...lawlz

I'm starting to think you work for DTV, and, like Bill working for ATT, spewing garbage.

 

[NAHSTE]

The NFL isn't the leader in presentation at all...that would be MLB.

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