is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?

[Maynard]

Let's not mince words here. You would be below average when stack ranked with my female teammates in terms of strength. You have never been in an NFL locker room, or even a decent weight room in your life.

I can think of 6 or 7 girls off the top of my head that weigh 148lbs or under that are stronger than you. You're not a badass, go do some burpees.

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oh rly? tell us more little man. my bench is at 275, my squat is 385 and my dead is 520....so go fuck your mother

btw, when did i say i was in a NFL locker room?

 

[Maynard]

funny how now the reports are coming directly from phins players that Martin ran around showing off that text months ago and laughed about it and now the dbags like tailback stop posting.

 

[NAHSTE]

oh rly? tell us more little man. my bench is at 275, my squat is 385 and my dead is 520....so go fuck your mother

Please be civil.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Please be civil.

Thanked for that wacky animal thingy. That's fantastic.

Also, checking in to say Incognito sucks & Martin is softer than Charmin. I like to do this every few pages.

 

[Tailback U]

you are a moron. just because i started a thread in april doesnt mean thats the first time i even worked out. you fucking idiot. plus, you forgot to post the 5x5 stronglift thread i started a year before that...but i suppose that means i just started working out then too. fucking moron........and btw, since when does a person have to play sports to be a part of a locker room? i guess you assume only players go into a locker room for sports teams. god dam, there is dumb, then their is tailback u....what a fucking idiot

:michaelscott:

Thanks for reminding me not to converse with people who have the same IQ as Richie Incognito.

 

[Maynard]

Thanked for that wacky animal thingy. That's fantastic.

Also, checking in to say Incognito sucks & Martin is softer than Charmin. I like to do this every few pages.

why do you think icognito sucks? if you are with your group of friends and the banter you share is nigga and ima kill yo mama kind of shit...is it unreasonable to think that what he said was uncool?

thats how i am looking at it.....as though this was the kind of banter these players share with each other. people are assuming what he said was with malice or had a hurtful nature. But thats all media driven speculation to fuel their story.

and Martin is becoming a false victim of the media here too. what did Martin really do or say? All he did was leave the team for what we hear is a mental break down. Martin has not said anything else. Everything has been media driven

 

[Maynard]

:michaelscott:

Thanks for reminding me not to converse with people who have the same IQ as Richie Incognito.

really dude? are you that stuipd....how about trainers, coaches, reporters, water boys, towel boys....should i go on? you are so fucking dense.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

why do you think icognito sucks?

Incognito has a track record of being a mental case and general asshole since his college days. He was basically kicked off of two teams, first Nebraska, and then he lasted something like a week with Oregon before being thrown off the team. Despite being a great college player when he actually played, first round talent easily, his attitude and mental issues killed his draft stock. He was constantly in trouble with the Rams to the point that he broke league records for personal fouls and essentially got cut in the middle of a game. And now this story, which shows that he hasn't matured one bit since he was an 18 year old freshman at Nebraska.

 

[ram29jackson]

Incognito has a track record of being a mental case and general asshole since his college days. He was basically kicked off of two teams, first Nebraska, and then he lasted something like a week with Oregon before being thrown off the team. Despite being a great college player when he actually played, first round talent easily, his attitude and mental issues killed his draft stock. He was constantly in trouble with the Rams to the point that he broke league records for personal fouls and essentially got cut in the middle of a game. And now this story, which shows that he hasn't matured one bit since he was an 18 year old freshman at Nebraska.

well, you don't last 7 years unless you bring certain tangibles to the table.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

well, you don't last 7 years unless you bring certain tangibles to the table.

Yeah, he can play football. Who cares? That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Pacman Jones is a despicable human being who belongs behind bars, and he's still employed, too. So what?

 

[ram29jackson]

Yeah, he can play football. Who cares? That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Pacman Jones is a despicable human being who belongs behind bars, and he's still employed, too. So what?

that's my point. It does matter...this is waaay less of a problem then PacMan Jones by any stretch. He will play again

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

that's my point. It does matter...this is waaay less of a problem then PacMan Jones by any stretch. He will play again

You have no point. Unless your point that as long as you are good at blocking people, it's ok the be a grade A asshole your entire life. And that's a stupid point.

Of course he'll play again. Again, what does this have to do with anything I said?

 

[ram29jackson]

You have no point. Unless your point that as long as you are good at blocking people, it's ok the be a grade A asshole your entire life. And that's a stupid point.

Of course he'll play again. Again, what does this have to do with anything I said?

my point is he hasn't done one thing that will throw him in jail for any length of time. He is an idiot in a pseudo profession that promotes idiocy.

LOL you said you don't like him. Fine, I don't need to counterpoint that. We both agree he'll get another NFL paycheck while the pc world cries like little pussies about nothing they can do anything about

 

[Cornelius]

9 pages? Such non news and 9 pages.............

:cmon:

 

[ram29jackson]

9 pages? Such non news and 9 pages.............

:cmon:

I already said that. Its the disease of social media and pc-ness

 

[NAHSTE]

9 pages? Such non news and 9 pages.............

:cmon:

no 40 ppp?

:cmon:

 

[Cornelius]

no 40 ppp?

:cmon:

 

[f16harm]

Jonathan Martin's case going to hell in a handbasket. No one in the locker room, or players from the past year, no longer with the team.....no one supports him, they don't believe him, and they have no idea where this is coming from. People had no idea WTF was going on the day he had his cafeteria hissy fit. Players were allowed to address the situation as of yesterday, Tannehill and Hartline had very strong press conferences with telling insight.

I told you this gonna get good. It isn't close to being over.

 

[Argath]

Hillenmeyer 'hated coming into work' because of Kreutz

Tribune report3:02 p.m. CST, November 6, 2013


Bullying in the NFL has come under scrutiny this week after the suspension of Miami Dolphins guard Richie Incognito for his abusive treatment of teammate Jonathan Martin, and former Chicago Bears linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer said the incident reminds him of his feelings toward the team's former center and locker-room leader Olin Kreutz.

“The first year I filled in for (Brian) Urlacher when he was on injured reserve for a large part of the year (2004), I hated coming into work because of Olin," Hillenmeyer told Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes of WSCR-AM 670 on Wednesday. "Because he was a jerk. He was riding me because I was the third-year guy, or second-year guy, trying to fill in for a superstar. So I can relate in a sense that, you’re going to have people in your workplace that you don’t necessarily like."

Asked how he dealt with it and whether he had a support system within the Bears, Hillenmeyer said, "Olin led in a certain way. I would go to the grave acknowledging that he thought that everything he was always doing was in the best interest of the team. I don’t want that to come across like I’m admonishing him or saying that he was a bad leader. Because he was a great leader, but at the same time, when you have a room full of alpha males who were all the best player on their high school teams and one of the best players on their college team, to get everyone to buy in and fall into line, you need people that take leadership roles in an aggressive way like that."

Dolphins coaches reportedly encouraged Incognito to pressure Martin into conforming with the code of the locker room, and Hillenmeyer said team management often will look the other way.

"If you’re (former Bears general manager) Jerry Angelo or you’re (former Bears coach) Lovie Smith, as much as you might not approve of some of the methods, you like the results," he said of Kreutz's behavior. "People were going to come to OTAs and they weren’t going to have loose lips with the media, they weren’t going to do a lot of things to damage the locker room – not because they didn’t want to, but because they were scared of Olin.

"You need guys like that in the locker room, and coaches tend to just let it happen unless there's something egregious going on that's right under their nose."

But hey, nahste and TBU seem to know more about NFL locker rooms than actual NFL players. We should probably take all of Olin Kreutz's awards away from him because he was a bully.


It should really tell you something when other players are speaking out in defense of Incognito in this situation.

 

[f16harm]

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/11/07/richie-incognito-jonathan-martin-dolphins-lydon-murtha/