is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?

[SethMode]

So basically what I said.

You said Martin would hire a lawyer?

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

You said Martin would hire a lawyer?

A thousand of them if I recall.

 

[Tailback U]

Take it however you want to:

Players surveyed on hazing incident
Updated: November 8, 2013, 2:05 PM ET
By Jeff Legwold | ESPN.com

Survey: Little Support For Incognito

Jeff Legwold discusses the results of an unscientific survey of current NFL players concerning their attitude toward Richie Incognito and whether they had been hazed upon entering the league.


Recently suspended Miami Dolphins guard Richie Incognito does not have the support from NFL peers that he has received from teammates.

Incognito, who has been suspended indefinitely by the team in a bullying scandal that has swept over the league and saw Dolphins tackle Jonathan Martin leave the team, has received public support from many of his teammates in recent days, including quarterback Ryan Tannehill.

By The Numbers

72 NFL players were asked to anonymously answer the following questions in the wake of the Richie Incognito-Jonathan Martin scandal. Here are the results:

Which player would you rather have as a teammate?

Incognito 15
Martin 34
Neither 23

Have you been the victim of hazing in the NFL?
True 31
False 41

Have you provided money as a result of being hazed? If true, what's the most you have given?*
True 28
False 44
*Amounts ranged from $40 to $18,000

But in an unscientific survey conducted by team reporters for ESPN.com's NFL Nation over two days this week, Incognito does not have the same level of support from some of his peers. Three players participated from each team surveyed, with 72 players in all asked three questions. The players taking part were granted anonymity.

To the question of which player, Martin or Incognito, would they rather have as a teammate, 15 of the players who responded (20.8 percent) said they would rather have Incognito as a teammate, while 34 (47.2 percent) said they would rather have Martin as a teammate.

However, 23 of those who responded, or 31.9 percent, said they would want neither as a teammate. In all, the results showed that 57 of those who answered (79.2 percent) would not want Incognito as a teammate.

The players were also asked, in true-or-false form, whether they had ever been victims of hazing during their NFL careers. Thirty-one of the players (43.1 percent) answered true, while 41 (56.9 percent) answered false.

In the third question, players were asked if they ever had to provide money as part of a hazing incident. To that, 28 players (38.9 percent) answered true, while 44 players (61.1 percent) answered false.

Those who answered true to the third question were also asked to provide the highest dollar amount they were asked to provide as part of the hazing incident. A wide range of answers were given.

Some of the answers included $40 for donuts, $100 for Chick-Fil-A and $2,500 and $5,000 for team dinners. In addition, six of the players surveyed said they spent $8,000, $9,000, $10,000 (two players), $12,000 and $18,000. Those six players did not identify how the money was used.

The NFL is investigating what happened between Incognito and Martin, with noted attorney Ted Wells appointed by the league to conduct the investigation. Wells will prepare a report for NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and league officials, and the report will be made public upon its completion.

Incognito, a nine-year veteran, was suspended by the Dolphins on Sunday for "conduct detrimental to the team,'' amid accusations that he bullied and used racially charged terms against Martin, who left the team last week. Martin, a second-year tackle from Stanford, is with his family in California and has undergone counseling for emotional issues.

During a week when coaches of several teams were addressing the Dolphins' situation, Broncos interim coach Jack Del Rio was asked whether he spoke of the incident with Denver players.

"I did address it with the team,'' Del Rio said. "And I told them hopefully they feel confident if anything was ever going on they would pick one of the channels internally here, whether it be a coach, position coach, head coach, coordinator, anybody in coaching … somebody else in the building, another player, doesn't have to be a captain or a leader.

"If something's going on, let us help you. We like to talk about being family, and we like to think we would be helpful to a person struggling in a particular situation.''

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9945888/most-players-survey-want-richie-incognito

 

[Tailback U]

Doible

 

[Tailback U]

Not that this really means much, just think its funny to hear about..the strip club meetings, molesting a woman with a golf club not so much if true.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9946248/richie-incognito-held-offensive-line-meetings-strip-club

Incognito held meetings at strip club

Recently suspended guard Richie Incognito held meetings for fellow Miami Dolphins offensive linemen at a South Florida strip club and would fine them if they didn't attend, according to a report.

The National Football Post, citing two sources, reported that Incognito expected the linemen to attend. If they failed to show up, Incognito would fine them in the club's kangaroo court and mock them for not being part of the group, one of the sources said.

"Richie wanted to set up Richie's world as a way for everybody to act," a team source told the National Football Post. "Richie thinks everybody should act that way. He doesn't get that some guys aren't into that behavior. Some guys don't want to constantly explain to their wife or girlfriend why they have to go to a strip club."

This is the latest news to surface about Incognito, who was suspended by the Dolphins on Sunday for conduct detrimental to the team amid accusations he bullied and used racially charged terms against fellow lineman Jonathan Martin, who left the Dolphins last week.

The NFL is investigating whether Incognito harassed or bullied Martin, and whether their teammates and the organization mishandled the situation. Martin will meet with Ted Wells, the NFL's independent investigator, at the end of next week in Los Angeles, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Martin, a second-year player out of Stanford, is with his family in California, where he is undergoing counseling for emotional issues.

Martin's lawyer, David Cornwell, released a statement Thursday that said Martin endured "harassment that went far beyond traditional locker room hazing."

Also on Thursday, it was revealed that Incognito was investigated last year for harassing a volunteer at the Dolphins' annual golf tournament by allegedly molesting her with a golf club, according to Aventura, Fla., police.

The original police report states that the alleged incident happened at the Turnberry Resort & Club in Aventura, but no charges were filed against Incognito.

The 34-year-old volunteer told police Incognito had been drinking and was "acting very inappropriate towards her," and that she went to police after Incognito said he wouldn't apologize.

The report states that the volunteer told police that Incognito "used his golf club to touch her by rubbing it up against her vagina, then up her stomach then to her chest. He then used the club to knock a pair of sunglasses off the top of her head" before continuing his aggression toward the woman, the report states.

Information from ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter and ESPN.com Dolphins reporter James Walker was used in this report.

 

[Tailback U]

Double post

 

[JBregz]

Am I the only one who doesn't fucking care about all of this? Two mediocre players at best.

 

[Aso]

Am I the only one who doesn't fucking care about all of this? Two mediocre players at best.

2 starters on the Dolphins offensive line

 

[Maynard]

at this point the only thing about this thread thats worth viewing is tailback trying to not sound like a retard

 

[ram29jackson]

Am I the only one who doesn't fucking care about all of this? Two mediocre players at best.

still, they have made millions. Its both silly and relevant on many levels. Again, you don't play 7 years if you actually suck

 

[Glenbino]

still, they have made millions. Its both silly and relevant on many levels. Again, you don't play 7 years if you actually suck

like I said from the beginning this is ultimately nothing more than the ultimate in a non-story.

only amplified because social media helps promote stupid junk to the masses. All day yesterday on sports radio and social media this was amplified as the most important topic in the world. Its nothing more than a few dumb people doing dumb things. Theres been no crime. The media pushes the bullying/harassment angle when it appears the entire thing is contrived anyway...and the entire NFL fraternity is saying "Stay the hell out of our locker rooms, you have no clue whats going on and couldn't hang with it anyway"

a 1970s interpretation

Make up your mind.

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[NAHSTE]

Am I the only one who doesn't fucking care about all of this? Two mediocre players at best.

2 starters on the Dolphins offensive line

Isn't that what he said?

 

[ram29jackson]

Make up your mind.

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it doesn't need to be a national story but people and right and wrong do matter...besides I of course assumed it would be a decent topic for here of course = I'm multifaceted .

its about time someone noticed my North Dallas Forty reference

 

[Maynard]

he didnt notice the north dallas reference. he noticed your idiotic contradiction

 

[RosettaStoned]

oh rly? tell us more little man. my bench is at 275, my squat is 385 and my dead is 520....so go fuck your mother

btw, when did i say i was in a NFL locker room?

Post vids.

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[SethMode]

Post vids.

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This is getting weird. And a little gross. And this is in light of the fact that this thread involves someone wearing a condom while crying in someone's classroom. (I know my MadLibs is pedestrian, but I wanted to get us back on track).

 

[Champ]

Anyone that gives a shit about this watches way too much television.

 

[Maynard]

thats RS for ya...a little creepy and a little weird. sadly he thinks that ones self worth is based upon how much weight they can lift and anyone who doesnt follow his opinion of training is a retard. typical inferiority complex.

i think he is mad cause he cant do more than 2 burpees. he lacks the stamina

 

[bucky]

Also should note that I never would have clicked that had I known it was a MMQB article.

I am doing my small part to never visit that site due to the attention seeking hypocritical bullshit of refusing to say or type "Redskins" by Peter King.

He's made millions off of the NFL and the Redskins, a word that was not offensive for decades and still isn't, but is so guilty of being white and so scared of his own shadow that he's hopped on the PC train lest he offend the 1% of Indians who give a shit.

I like how you said 1% of Indians. Which ends up being a very small % if total population. At times I think there are more non-indians offended than indians. Just dumbasses looking for a cause. Now you guys can get back to the Incognito/Martin stuff.

Tailback U. One of the best posters on this sight.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I like how you said 1% of Indians. Which ends up being a very small % if total population. At times I think there are more non-indians offended than indians. Just dumbasses looking for a cause. Now you guys can get back to the Incognito/Martin stuff.

Tailback U. One of the best posters on this sight.

"A survey conducted in 2002 by Sports Illustrated (SI) found that 81 percent of Native Americans who live outside traditional Indian reservations and 53 percent of Indians on reservations did not find the images discriminatory."

Basically, 19% of civilized Native Americans in 2002 (before this became hot newz) found the use of some of these images offensive. While 47% of those living on reservations (some of the most poor, uneducated people in this country...so, the odds of them knowing what they are being offended by is slim) were offended.

With that said, there are just a little over two million real Native Americans (no half-breeds) in this country.

You're talking about a fraction of a percent of the total population of this country that would be qualified as "offended" by this shit.

Back to your regularly scheduled Martin is #SAWFT talk.