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Is Jonathan Vilma the NFL "escape goat"?

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In the end, Jonathan Vilma is a prop. He's a tool being manipulated by a commissioner trying to make much larger points.

Which, when you think about it, is not so far removed from the role that Vilma and his teammates play in the NFL in general. These are pieces on a chess board, only now they're being moved around for other purposes.



Commissioner Roger Goodell's one-season suspension of Vilma was so over the top that it had to be for effect, and indeed it was. Sending Vilma off the field for the same amount of time as Sean Payton, who as head coach of the Saints can be held directly responsible for the bounty scandal, is ludicrous -- but Goodell isn't interested in the appearance of fairness here. He is sending a message via jackhammer.

The severity of Vilma's punishment, in fact, leaves me with the strong impression that Goodell knows full well bounty systems exist in locker rooms around the NFL, however loosely structured and clumsily implemented they may be. They aren't Saints-level in their precision and payout; they may never have involved coaches. But they exist. And Goodell wants them stopped, even though almost any football cynic could tell you that'll never happen.

Thus, Vilma, who the league said directly contributed to an atmosphere in which opponents' careers could be put in jeopardy, is held to the same level of culpability as the coach who embraced the program put it in place by Gregg Williams.

That's ridiculous on almost every front. Going after Payton and Williams, along with GM Mickey Loomis and assistant head coach Joe Vitt, makes infinitely more sense. Suspending Vilma for a year, while ostensibly not touching some 20 other players that the NFL's own investigation suggests were in on the bounty plan, is almost purely symbolic -- and I'd be surprised if it stands.

There is nothing about Vilma's story that is going to provoke sympathy, nor should it. The league says its investigation led it to "multiple independent sources" who indicated the Saints linebacker not only helped fund the bounty program, but offered specific $10,000 payoffs to any teammate who knocked out Kurt Warner and, later, Brett Favre during playoff games.

Coming on the same day that the NFL lost one of its most decorated alumni, Junior Seau, under dark circumstances that reminded some people of the collective toll a life in the league can take, Goodell's aggressive stand against targeted violence wasn't likely to face much opposition. Still, some distinctions are in order.



First, to answer the obvious: No, this isn't the military. And yes, adult football players absolutely ought to be held responsible for their actions, regardless of who initially set them in motion. If I do something against the rules and try to blame it on my boss for ordering me to do it, realistically, we're both going down. And that's how it should be.

But when placed in the context of sports leagues, it is obvious -- and has been for decades -- that football is unlike any other endeavor in the U.S. It is tremendously more structured. It leans very heavily on a system in which orders do, in fact, get followed. Its locker rooms are closed-off places where secrets are kept. It is fundamentally a sport of violence.

Goodell has staked a fair amount of his legacy as commissioner on dealing with an issue that, in fairness, he strictly inherited. In the midst of a raft of lawsuits by former players claiming the NFL for years ignored evidence of the terrible cumulative effect of concussions and other injuries upon them, Goodell is attempting to modify the behavior of a blood sport played for money. It is an uphill climb.

But Goodell does himself no favors when he goes after Vilma, Anthony Hargrove and two other Saints players, and basically glosses over the rest of the league's findings. If accountability is the object, then why aren't the other 20-odd Saints players being called out? And if the point is that Vilma was a ringleader, that puts him at the top of the second tier of responsibility.

Goodell isn't interested in objective fairness here; if he were, he might take Vilma off the field for four games, perhaps eight. Fairness is not the point. Sending a message is the point. Perhaps it'll ultimately be lost amid a locker room culture that has always rewarded crushing hits that change games -- amid the culture of a sport that, in general, rewards the biggest hitters with the best contracts -- but that's the point all the same.

And Vilma is nothing more, really, than the object of Goodell's effort. All these years later, Vilma is a football prop. It is, for any NFL player, a fairly familiar theme.
 
is a Mexican man calling him the scape goat?


I didnt see until just now he got a year, wow. Players have much shorter career lengths than coaches so this is crazy.
 
LOL at this. Vilma is a POS. He willingly tries to end other player's careers, he coerces his teammates into trying to end other player's careers...and now he's supposed to by a sympathetic character because he had to sit out 1 season? He should be banned for life, really.

If you want to get into the semantics of "evidence" and "due process", whatever. But if the NFL is saying that Vilma was the player organizer of the bounty program and was paying teammates to injure opponents, then how on earth can the article make the claim that "fairness' would be for Vilma to sit out "four games, perhaps eight".

Vilma isn't a prop, he is a douche.
 
LOL at this. Vilma is a POS. He willingly tries to end other player's careers, he coerces his teammates into trying to end other player's careers...and now he's supposed to by a sympathetic character because he had to sit out 1 season? He should be banned for life, really.

If you want to get into the semantics of "evidence" and "due process", whatever. But if the NFL is saying that Vilma was the player organizer of the bounty program and was paying teammates to injure opponents, then how on earth can the article make the claim that "fairness' would be for Vilma to sit out "four games, perhaps eight".

Vilma isn't a prop, he is a douche.

Yeah, Vilma is a fucking creep and should never see another NFL paycheck.

If anything, Goodell went easy on the Saints. ALL of the players who participated should have been punished in some way, I agree with the article on that. Roger only nailed four, and two are no longer even on the Saints.

If I was running the league, Gregg Williams, Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis, and Vilma would be gone for life.
 
Vilma is now claiming he had nothing to do with the bounties and never contributed money to bounty pools, this despite overwhelming evidence over a two year investigation and the fact that his own coaches and teammates already gave him up.

And Darren Sharper really needs to STFU about how these payments were for turnovers and "big plays", and not for injuries. There is audio tape of the fucking defensive coordinator offering cash for head shots that knock Alex Smith out of a game, and he talks about going after players knees who have had ACL issues. Sharper has zero credibility, which makes it all the more impossible to believe scummers like Vilma. This is an organization that lied to the league for two years, why should anybody listen to Sharper or any of these creeps?

What the Saints really need to do is just clean house and start over.
 
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. ONLY CLAIMS OF EVIDENCE.

Why hasn't the evidence and the 2000 or so page investigation report haven't been released. How come the NFL has never even talked to the players. The victims or the accused. The Saints side to the story has gotten a much clearer picture with a couple of former Saints employees saying what actually happened.
 
1-Vilma is now claiming he had nothing to do with the bounties and never contributed money to bounty pools, this despite overwhelming evidence over a two year investigation and the fact that his own coaches and teammates already gave him up.

And Darren Sharper really needs to STFU about how these payments were for turnovers and "big plays", and not for injuries. 2-There is audio tape of the fucking defensive coordinator offering cash for head shots that knock Alex Smith out of a game, and he talks about going after players knees who have had ACL issues. Sharper has zero credibility, which makes it all the more impossible to believe scummers like Vilma. This is an organization that lied to the league for two years, why should anybody listen to Sharper or any of these creeps?

What the Saints really need to do is just clean house and start over.

Have links to points 1 and 2? I haven't seen/heard them yet.

And are you arguing that players don't attack players who have had injuries in certain spots? I thought that's one of the biggest reasons players don't always disclose their injuries with the media, they don't want players targeting that body part. And players as in every opposing team, not just the Saints.
 
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. ONLY CLAIMS OF EVIDENCE.

Why hasn't the evidence and the 2000 or so page investigation report haven't been released. How come the NFL has never even talked to the players. The victims or the accused. The Saints side to the story has gotten a much clearer picture with a couple of former Saints employees saying what actually happened.

Yeah, i'm sure it's all made up.

And why should the NFL have to release anything?

Gregg Williams, Scott Fujita, and others have come clean. The rats have spoken. The ship has sailed on the cover up, it's over, they got caught, and Vilma & Sharper look like geeks at this point for constantly denying this shit.
 
I heard that Vilma refused to attend his disciplinary hearing, so I would guess that the NFL isn't going to publicly release evidence prior to Vilma's hearing.
 
Yeah, i'm sure it's all made up.

And why should the NFL have to release anything?

Gregg Williams, Scott Fujita, and others have come clean. The rats have spoken. The ship has sailed on the cover up, it's over, they got caught, and Vilma & Sharper look like geeks at this point for constantly denying this shit.

So you are OK with the NFL withholding information? I bet you didn't know that you as a US citizen have the right to request just about any file that you want and the NFLPA requested them to release the report and yet they are still withholding it. What I believe is that the whole situation is being overblown to something bigger than it actually was. That is something that can possibly be found in the report. This is really all for PR for good ole Goodell. That is why he has kept it relevant for so long. Let's just say that there is no evidence since no one can find it on the field.
 
So you are OK with the NFL withholding information? I bet you didn't know that you as a US citizen have the right to request just about any file that you want and the NFLPA requested them to release the report and yet they are still withholding it. What I believe is that the whole situation is being overblown to something bigger than it actually was. That is something that can possibly be found in the report. This is really all for PR for good ole Goodell. That is why he has kept it relevant for so long. Let's just say that there is no evidence since no one can find it on the field.

This is total bullshit, and i'll tell you why.

If this was "really all PR for good ole Goodell", then why did he try to quietly sweep it under the rug two years ago? It only became a huge story because the Saints lied to him and tried to cover it up. Goodell did not want this out. It all came out because not only is the Saints organization full of creeps, but they participated in a two year cover up and basically spat in Goodell's face.

The Saints are the reason this became a story, not Goodell.
 
Over the course of Jonathan Vilma's career has he been a slimeball before this situation?


http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=ys-jonathan_vilma_allegations

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• “Jon Vilma was just about the same exact situation as D.J. Williams. [He] was in my house a number of times. I gave him cash, paid bounties to him for hurt quarterbacks – Chris Rix, in particular, from Florida State. And there’s one play specifically [in 2002] where you can see Rix diving for the first down and Vilma pounded him and got thrown a 15-yard penalty for getting in his face. That was part of my [bounty] discussion with him.”

And this....

On March 31, 2009 two Liberian men were killed in a Long Island condominium owned by Vilma. Police believe that the victims may have been part of a black money scam, where the perpetrators claim that cash smuggled from overseas—stained black to avoid detection—can be purchased at a discount; in reality, what they offer is a trunk full of worthless paper. Vilma is not considered a suspect.

Vilma was "best buddies" with Miami slimeball Nevin Shapiro, took bounty money at Miami, and mysteriously had two international criminals murdered in his home.

Vilma has a long history of being involved in shady shit, including bounties, so there is no gigantic leap required here to think he was putting up bounty money.
 
So you are OK with the NFL withholding information? I bet you didn't know that you as a US citizen have the right to request just about any file that you want and the NFLPA requested them to release the report and yet they are still withholding it. What I believe is that the whole situation is being overblown to something bigger than it actually was. That is something that can possibly be found in the report. This is really all for PR for good ole Goodell. That is why he has kept it relevant for so long. Let's just say that there is no evidence since no one can find it on the field.

You have the right to request private, internal information from a privately owned and operated organization? What obligation are they under to provide that information in a timely-manner? I'm not American, but that seems... odd. If the NFL was a government organization, it would be different. But citizens having the right to go to any company, foundation, or association, and say "show me this" seems... unlikely....

As for "no evidence", I did find this interesting:

From SI's Peter King

Little did I know that he would enlist one of the most noted attorneys in recent American history to help provide one final check on the evidence the league has on the Saints. Former U.S. attorney Mary Jo White, who successfully prosecuted noted mob boss John Gotti for murder and racketeering in 1992, was brought in by the league to pore over all the evidence. White reviewed the findings of the league's internal investigations (one in early 2010, and a renewed investigation early this year) and reportedly told the league its case is solid.

Unless that info is fabrciated, it seems likely the NFL has something to back up the bans.
 
The idea that there is no evidence is absurd. Besides the fact that several involved parties have already come clean, the idea that the NFL would intentionally drum up an exaggerated story of what went on lacks any sort of logic.

If anything, the NFL is withholding the report so they can downplay what went on. The report probably contains things that Goodell does not want the media to get its hands on. Same reason Goodell downplayed and swept Spygate under the rug. You don't want this stuff out there, it's his job to protect the shield.
 
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