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John Fox can suck my balls...
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Rivers17ncsu
Amerson For Thorpe!
rton: for a 4th and Rusty "Rifle" Smith. I'll even do the modifications for his smiley.
Goober
New member
Obviously the Broncos aren't going to go out and say Tim Tebow is our guy, and show their hand to the world. If they did that, Orton's trade value would plummet. If teams believe the Broncos are willing to start Orton next year instead of trading him, they'll be forced to bump up their trade offer.
Whenever the new CBA is reached I'm still convinced Kyle Orton will be sayonara.
Whenever the new CBA is reached I'm still convinced Kyle Orton will be sayonara.
packersfan4eva
Ryan Luxem
Starting Tim Tebow would either be A. a smart move by the NFL (if he turns out to be good), or B. not much of a difference (if he sucks).
It's a win-or-no-lose situation. Just fucking start him.
It's a win-or-no-lose situation. Just fucking start him.
Raidersabc123
Wakka Wakka
John Fox sucks balls? Sounds like he fits perfect for denver
Tailback U
No substitute 4 strength.
How did you figure all of that out by yourself? What a great move by Denver, there is no way anybody in the NFL is going to know that the Broncos are trying to increase Orton's value with this move. Only a genius like GoblinSlayer would be able to figure out something this creative.
You're a fucking idiot. You think the rest of the league is sitting there, "Oh wow Kyle Orton is a starter now we better offer a lot for him"? No, they are sitting there saying the exact same thing you and everyone else is saying, "LOL at Denver thinking teams are going to offer more for Orton just because they are saying he is the starter."
Denver is going to take whatever they can get for Orton, and it isn't going to be much.
bucky
#50? WTF?
And in a couple of years, there going to take whatever they can get for Tebow.:smug2:
dave
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As crazy as it sounds...
I wonder if John Elway subconsciously worries about Tebow becoming another Broncos' QB legend and is doing everything he can to throw him under the bus before that happens.
Maybe I'm insane (ok, not maybe) ... but there's something awfully fishy about this. I can understand Fox naming Orton his #1 QB in February if Orton were a proven QB with many years in Denver, but he's not.
I have zero issue with Orton being #1 on the depth chart, he's the veteran. But Orton does not have the seniority or accomplishments to be a lock in February. Like most players, he has to earn his job.
This is just strange.
If I were the Buffalo Bills, I'd immediately call Denver and offer the 2nd and 6th round picks to Elway for Tim Tebow.
OK, Tebow doesn't have the typical NFL skillset at QB, but the guy has something special ... sorry, hate to say it, but the "it" factor. And he won't be a character question the way Cam Newton might be (sorry, but saying you want to be an entertainment icon makes me wonder). I know Rayman, I'm a fucking racist, I burn black guys on a cross in my backyard.
But if I'm investing heavily in a quarterback, I want impeccable character traits.
The Bills are my AFC team and I truly wanted them to take Newton ... then I heard about that interview and immediately changed my mind. The Bills should immediately call Denver.
I wonder if John Elway subconsciously worries about Tebow becoming another Broncos' QB legend and is doing everything he can to throw him under the bus before that happens.
Maybe I'm insane (ok, not maybe) ... but there's something awfully fishy about this. I can understand Fox naming Orton his #1 QB in February if Orton were a proven QB with many years in Denver, but he's not.
I have zero issue with Orton being #1 on the depth chart, he's the veteran. But Orton does not have the seniority or accomplishments to be a lock in February. Like most players, he has to earn his job.
This is just strange.
If I were the Buffalo Bills, I'd immediately call Denver and offer the 2nd and 6th round picks to Elway for Tim Tebow.
OK, Tebow doesn't have the typical NFL skillset at QB, but the guy has something special ... sorry, hate to say it, but the "it" factor. And he won't be a character question the way Cam Newton might be (sorry, but saying you want to be an entertainment icon makes me wonder). I know Rayman, I'm a fucking racist, I burn black guys on a cross in my backyard.
But if I'm investing heavily in a quarterback, I want impeccable character traits.
The Bills are my AFC team and I truly wanted them to take Newton ... then I heard about that interview and immediately changed my mind. The Bills should immediately call Denver.
Hasselbeck
Jus' bout dat action boss
How is it strange that a new coach is going with the veteran QB over the guy that's only started 3 games?
And Orton won't be traded, at least not this season, no one knows what the hell to expect from Tebow.. yeah running for a TD on a broken play against the Raiders and being the 60th QB to throw for 300 yards on the Texans D in 2010 is nice and all.. but a new regime = veterans get first crack at the starting spots until they are beat out in preseason/training camp.
I'm not much for Dave's theory, but you see new head coaches come in all the time with absolutely no loyalty to the previous regime's early round picks. A trade of Tebow is unlikely, but interesting at the same time... If you are in need of a QB it wouldn't hurt to ask?
SuperKevin
War Hero
I'd cry if Buffalo traded anything more than a 3rd for Tim Tebow
Hasselbeck
Jus' bout dat action boss
Oh and LOL at Denver trading Tim Tebow.
For the love of god this kind of thing happens ALL the time when there are new head coaches. Veteran coaches especially. They prefer an experienced QB to man the ship at first because there is less of a learning curve for a guy that's been there before.
It's not a slight against Tebow by any stretch, I'm sure if there is a training camp and preseason this year he will have his shot to unseat Orton.. and if he doesn't, oh well? Go with the guy that gives you the best shot to win.
Neither guy will be moved though unless some team offers something ridiculously stupid for either guy.
For the love of god this kind of thing happens ALL the time when there are new head coaches. Veteran coaches especially. They prefer an experienced QB to man the ship at first because there is less of a learning curve for a guy that's been there before.
It's not a slight against Tebow by any stretch, I'm sure if there is a training camp and preseason this year he will have his shot to unseat Orton.. and if he doesn't, oh well? Go with the guy that gives you the best shot to win.
Neither guy will be moved though unless some team offers something ridiculously stupid for either guy.
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