Jordan and Kobe have both played 1072 Games- Compare....

[NAHSTE]

Meh.
I am not saying every NBA player today is a lazy fuck.
I like watching Blake Griffin.
But today's level of competitiveness doesn't touch the 80s or early 90s.
You never heard of players dying while jerking off and driving at the same time in the 80s.

And that totally proves your point, since driving a car has very much to do with how hard you play the game of basketball.

 

[dave]

And that totally proves your point, since driving a car has very much to do with how hard you play the game of basketball.

Lighten up, McFly.

 

[NAHSTE]

Lighten up, McFly.

Stop making terrible arguments with no basis in reality, Biff.

 

[dave]

Stop making terrible arguments with no basis in reality, Biff.

Make like a tree and bug off.

 

[Juggernaut]

Most old guys lose their shooting legs anyway.
Jordan would get those 20 points on smarts and slashing.
Oh, and fucking will to win. Something 90% of today's NBA players wouldn't know about if it smacked them in the face.
If Jordan played in his prime with today's rules, he'd average 50 ppg easily.
He played against the Knicks and Pistons who were tough motherfuckers who didn't deal with today's Harlem Globetrotter rules.

Yes he would lose his shooting legs, limiting him to slashing.
He wouldn't be able to slash if he was being guarded well.
The NBA is full of athletes. They can keep up with him.
NO SHIT about the prime, but were not talking about prime. Were talking about 47 year old Jordan vs 23 year old athletic machine.

Yeah and he did that not even caring any more.
He knew the Wizards sucked, he was just trying to sell tickets.
Imagine Jordan, even know, motivated and in shape and not just out there to sell tickets. He could still get it done against today's lazy fucks.
I am not saying Jordan at 48 playing for the Wizards. I am saying Jordan, motivated, playing for a good team ... with no incentive but to win and show today's players how it's done.
Obviously he wouldn't be a top 10 player, but I'd be stunned if he wouldn't be at least top 25.

If he didn't care then, why care now?
8 years later, still unmotivated and still unable to shoot or slash.
Lazy fucks? The NBA is less about shooters and more about athletes, people who can run, sprint, and lift.

If Jordan is on a team playing to win, playing to win it all, he's coming off the bench. The only "pretender" that could use him is, ironically, the Bulls. They don't need him to shoot or slash, just to put in 10ppg and defend well in 20-25 minutes of play. Any longer and he'll become a liability from not being fast enough to keep up.

 

[NAHSTE]

Make like a tree and bug off.

Are you just trying to sound like a crotchety old man now?

 

[dave]

Are you just trying to sound like a crotchety old man now?

I was trying to imitate Biff, to be honest.
Watch the movies.

Stupid kids - reference a movie, then know nothing about it.

 

[NAHSTE]

I was trying to imitate Biff, to be honest.
Watch the movies.

Stupid kids - reference a movie, then know nothing about it.

Young Biff: Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?
Old Biff: It's *leave*, you idiot! "Make like a tree, and leave." You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong.

...

 

[dave]

...

That was sorta my point.
Nice Google work though.

 

[Bear Pand]

Meh.
I am not saying every NBA player today is a lazy fuck.
I like watching Blake Griffin.
But today's level of competitiveness doesn't touch the 80s or early 90s.
You never heard of players dying while jerking off and driving at the same time in the 80s.

Ugh.

Here we go with the lame 80s / late 90s worship again. I swear everyone over the age of 30 thinks every sport was at it's peak during this time and nothing will ever compare.

 

[NAHSTE]

Ugh.

Here we go with the lame 80s / late 90s worship again. I swear everyone over the age of 30 thinks every sport was at it's peak during this time and nothing will ever compare.

But ... but.. the players were not masturbating while driving back then! It was such a simpler time!

 

[Sportsbuck]

Ugh.

Here we go with the lame 80s / late 90s worship again. I swear everyone over the age of 30 thinks every sport was at it's peak during this time and nothing will ever compare.

Agreed. The amount of young talent currently in the league today matches up very well with the any past era IMO.

 

[citizenerased]

wait Im confused I thought you said Quote:

Originally Posted by manchild24
Now the morons statement is totally uncalled for, I understand you're an Ill/Chi guy and are defending your childhood hero

Nice try dip shit. I just called "my child hood hero" and womanizer, and gambler, and a complete asshole.

For the record: Jordan was not/is not my hero.

Quote:
Originally Posted by manchild24

Like I said Im done with it, every piece of info you asked about I showed you and you back track.

As I've shown I didn't back track on shit. Not my fault you don't understand context. Like I'd forget my "childhood hero" was investigated by the NBA.

so is he your child hood hero or not. is that sarcasim or back tracking

Congratulations Inspector Gadget, you cracked the case!

Your next assignment, find out what what it means if a word is wrapped in " ".

 

[Deviant]

Jordan has about 5k more points, 600 more assist 4 more Mvps and about 8 more scoring championships. I am not going to list all the stats, but I will list some of the variables:

Kobe played out of high school when he was 19, MJ out of UNC when he was 21

MJ took 2 years off in his prime and played into his 40s (lol)

Kobe has lost twice already in the finals...MJ never did

Discuss....

Of course Jordan's going to have 5K more. His rookie year, he was immediately utilized and started every game. Kobe did not start every game nor did he immediately play like Jordan, so the point gap is naturally going to be that great. In Kobe's third season, he was finally starting. Jordan was scoring 3,000 points in his third. I think that much is unfair to compare.

 

[Senser81]

Yes he would lose his shooting legs, limiting him to slashing.
He wouldn't be able to slash if he was being guarded well.
The NBA is full of athletes. They can keep up with him.

Last I checked, the only guy who could guard Jordan was no longer in the NBA...

 

[NAHSTE]

Last I checked, the only guy who could guard Jordan was no longer in the NBA...

When I saw a highlight of that shot as a kid, I debated with myself for a few minutes over whether MJ kicked Ehlo in the head during his celebration. I think I eventually deduced that he did indeed kick him Ehlo in the head. Depth perception was clearly not my strong suit at five years old.

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