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LBJ or Wade?

I think your out of your mind.

And I find it comical that you have found a new and creative way to bash Lebron by using height and age of his opposition as a qaulifier. There is a reason Lebron gaurds the other teams best player, especially in the 4thQ. And its not because their short.

I'm not bashing him, i'm just not impressed by it. And as far as guarding the teams best player, i STILL haven't seen him guard Dirk this series, which i defiantly thought would happen.
 
Like I get that people don't like LeBron (I'm one of them) but why the constant discredit of his game? You can hate a guy and also realize he's a fucking amazingly talented player.
 
Lebron>>>>Wade.

Wade has played better than Lebron in the Finals but I don't think that negates LeBron ripping out the hearts of the Celtics and Bulls repeatedly in the past two rounds.

I think what we are also ignoring is that perhaps Wade has been able to get off a bit mroe in the Finals because the Mavs are so focused on LeBron.
 
so you are saying regardless of his performance now, LBJ is better then wade? IDK, i remember a few years back wade had one of the best individual performances in the playoffs VS boston, the same team that destroyed LBJ.

Destroying LBJ =

09-10: 26.8 ppg
07-08: 26.7 ppg
 
Destroying LBJ =

09-10: 26.8 ppg
07-08: 26.7 ppg

what series was it where he 'quit' game 5 then in game 6 he had a 10 turnover game?

i think some of you guys are misunderstanding something, this isnt about how bad LBJ is, but rather how good wade is. IMO LBJ and Wade are the top 2 players in the game right now. I used to think it was LBJ but now maybe its a lot closer then what i thought before.
 
I'm not hating on Lebron at all, but because of the physical tools he has, i expect him to do more than some other guys. It takes more for Lebron to look impressive than Wade, and on top of that Wade plays harder, even on his off nights you still see him hustling and trying to make plays and shots, even if he's missing um, when LBJ has an off night, which isn't too often, he disappears.
 
I won't argue that LeBron isn't maximizing his talents to their fullest potential, but even then I still think he's a far better player then Wade.
 
what series was it where he 'quit' game 5 then in game 6 he had a 10 turnover game?

That was 09-10.

35 pts, 7 assists, 7 rebounds Game One
24 points, 4 assists, 7 rebounds Game Two
38 points, 7 assists, 8 rebounds Game Three
22 points, 8 assists, 9 rebounds Game Four (7 turnovers)
15 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds Game Five
27 points, 10 assists, 19 rebounds Game Six (9 turnovers)

They sure destroyed him on his way to a triple double.
 
That was 09-10.

35 pts, 7 assists, 7 rebounds Game One
24 points, 4 assists, 7 rebounds Game Two
38 points, 7 assists, 8 rebounds Game Three
22 points, 8 assists, 9 rebounds Game Four (7 turnovers)
15 points, 7 assists, 6 rebounds Game Five
27 points, 10 assists, 19 rebounds Game Six (9 turnovers)

They sure destroyed him on his way to a triple double.

yea i remember his game 5. also if i remember correctly werent the Cavs favored that series and also had the Ls best record? maybe destroyed wasnt the right word. but how can we say the best player in the game hands down, one compared to the all time greatest, have games like game 5?

now since u want to be stickler for this, look at wades performance against the same Boston team and tell me whos was more impressive.
 
James is not the number 1 guy on his team to win the game, he just isnt, from the small sample I have seen, he is no MJ, Bird or Magic, even Magic as the passer, running the offense, he made sure he was the one taking over and winning the game at the end somehow, it was on Magic, I don't see that with James, I see that with Wade

There is a reason he dumped the Cavs and teamed up with Wade and Bosh
 
James is not the number 1 guy on his team to win the game, he just isnt, from the small sample I have seen, he is no MJ, Bird or Magic, even Magic as the passer, running the offense, he made sure he was the one taking over and winning the game at the end somehow, it was on Magic, I don't see that with James, I see that with Wade

There is a reason he dumped the Cavs and teamed up with Wade and Bosh

You're way out of your realm in trying to discuss modern basketball Rob..
 
And btw I am by no means giving LeBron a pass for his play in the finals, especially last night, which might've been the worst Star performance in a finals game in history. But it doesnt change for me who I think the better player is through a season, through a career, who id start a team with. LeBron is trying too hard to be the team guy and letting Wade and Bosh do their thing when they're playing well, which is great, but hes diverting much TOO much. I dont really expect him to step it up offensively either, but his play in other areas is obviously going to be ignored because of the lack of offense.
 
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You're way out of your realm in trying to discuss modern basketball Rob..

that's all well and good, but I know what my old eyes see

Wade LOOKS like the best player on the team right now, it looks like his team, not Lebrons

Magic had Kareem and Worthy, but it was Magics team, you can see that, all you guys are throwing out stats and this and that, use your eyes, who looks like the best player on the heat? Who is acting/playing like the best player on team?

I couldnt see MJ, Bird and Magic playing liike that in the 4th quarter in the NBA finals
 
that's all well and good, but I know what my old eyes see

Wade LOOKS like the best player on the team right now, it looks like his team, not Lebrons

Magic had Kareem and Worthy, but it was Magics team, you can see that, all you guys are throwing out stats and this and that, use your eyes, who looks like the best player on the heat? Who is acting/playing like the best player on team?

I couldnt see MJ, Bird and Magic playing liike that in the 4th quarter in the NBA finals

I saw LeBron look like the best player on the team for 82 games and 3 playoff series.. so im not going to use the 4 games in the finals as an over reaction and say Wade is the better player when I know its really not the case. He may be playing better at the moment, you may label him more "clutch" if you want, but hes just not the better player. And thats no slouch on him.
 
I think Wade is the emotional leader of the team and they guy they all look up to. He's been in Miami the longest and its been his team in the good and bad years. Wade was having a bad offensive series vs the bulls but he stepped up with two huge blocks and a steal when the Heat needed some plays in that 4th quarter. It was pure heart and hustle when he blocked Luol Dengs jumper in the 4th quarter of a pivotal game in the CHI series.

Lebron is still the better basketball player. IIRC he's 6'9" 270 and one of the more athletic players in the NBA. Like others have mentioned if Lebron played with the heart and hustle Wade plays with then MAYBE we could entertain those MJ comparisons one day way on down the line.



I would build my team around Lebron but I would want D Wade taking the last shot of the game if i had my choice.
 
James, but Wade certainly is a great player. If I was ranking players in the NBA they'd be 1 and 2. James is much more passive and when Wade and Bosh are playing whe'll take a back seat to them. However, I'm not sure what was going on last night, because he just seemed too passive and not really interested.

Even with all of his talents of being able to score, rebound, pass, play defense,etc James at his core is a facilitator, but he sometimes falls in and out of that role with feeling the need to live up to the expectation that comes with being considered the leagues best player and that is of the guy who dominates the ball, takes the last shot. However, the leagues' best player has never played with the second best player who has a similar skill set.....IMO at times this makes James lazy and too passive, because he can defer. Now, I will say IMO Wade is a better closer, so in those moments Wade should get the ball but this doesn't mean that he's the better player.
 
James, but Wade certainly is a great player. If I was ranking players in the NBA they'd be 1 and 2. James is much more passive and when Wade and Bosh are playing whe'll take a back seat to them. However, I'm not sure what was going on last night, because he just seemed too passive and not really interested.

Even with all of his talents of being able to score, rebound, pass, play defense,etc James at his core is a facilitator, but he sometimes falls in and out of that role with feeling the need to live up to the expectation that comes with being considered the leagues best player and that is of the guy who dominates the ball, takes the last shot. However, the leagues' best player has never played with the second best player who has a similar skill set.....IMO at times this makes James lazy and too passive, because he can defer. Now, I will say IMO Wade is a better closer, so in those moments Wade should get the ball but this doesn't mean that he's the better player.

Magic at his core was a facilitator, I don't think Magic would ever play like Lebron did last night, just an observation

Everyone brings up Jordan, but he isnt even Magic yet IMO
 
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