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LBJ or Wade?

Maynard said:
which player has quit on his team in the playoffs?
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I assume you’re talking about game 5 against the Celtics last year and last night’s game. I don’t know what his problem is, but James seems to pick the worse times to be a no-show. He certainly isn’t the master of good timing. With all of the criticism and spotlight he receives you would think that he would realize that having a bad night is one thing, but looking apathetic is totally different….especially on the biggest stage.

At least when Kobe did it he was trying to prove a point as a response to him taking too many shots, but James doesn’t really seem to have a purpose behind his.
 
LeBron is easily a better all around basketball player, athlete, etc. This is unquestionable.

But as I said before the season, the Miami Heat are still Wade's team.
 
I don't know who's better or even care at this point, but the best player in the league doesnt score a point in 2 straight 4th quarters of the NBA finals

EDIT: did he score in the 4th last night? can't remember
 
Liquidrob said:
I don't know who's better or even care at this point, but the best player in the league doesnt score a point in 2 straight 4th quarters of the NBA finals

EDIT: did he score in the 4th last night? can't remember
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The problem with James is that people change his legacy with every game. For most of the playoffs James was being compared to Jordan, because he was playing well, but now he'd be lucky to be compared to Jud Buechler. I've never seen an athlete get reclassified after every game like James is. If he goes out and has 35pts-12rebound-10assist and Miami wins game 6 I bet we'll be hearing him being compared to Jordan again. Its really strange.
 
I must say this is the most Ive seen Wade play and he is very explosive and a lot better then what I thought he was. the play the other night when he blocked Chandler then flew down the court for the layup. I actually said WOW out loud in my living room.

I still think wade is to injury prone to much, whether its the way he plays or what not, I think he's an accident waiting to happen. Through this whole "decision" he's the one that saves face and stayed in his hometown, brought in the biggest star in a Lebron, and another "all star" in Chris Bitch.
 
Yeah he only scored 2 points in the 4th quarter last night. Bringing his 4th quarter point total for the series to 11. Dirk shits out 11+ point 4th quarters nightly.
 
ralaw said:
The problem with James is that people change his legacy with every game. For most of the playoffs James was being compared to Jordan, because he was playing well, but now he'd be lucky to be compared to Jud Buechler. I've never seen an athlete get reclassified after every game like James is. If he goes out and has 35pts-12rebound-10assist and Miami wins game 6 I bet we'll be hearing him being compared to Jordan again. Its really strange.
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I don't know to much of the history of James and who he is compared to, I don't see the Jordan stuff, Kobe plays more and acts like Jordan, not James just from watching here and there

But he isnt playing like 'the best player in the league' in this finals, not playing like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Isiah, Hakeeem or whoever carried there team, he is playing like a pumped up Pippen at this point
 
Liquidrob said:
I don't know to much of the history of James and who he is compared to, I don't see the Jordan stuff, Kobe plays more and acts like Jordan, not James just from watching here and there

But he isnt playing like 'the best player in the league' in this finals, not playing like Jordan, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Isiah, Hakeeem or whoever carried there team, he is playing like a pumped up Pippen at this point
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I have no arguments, because James isn't playing like he normally does right now. I don't know what it is, but I will say something isn't right with him.
 
ralaw said:
I have no arguments, because James isn't playing like he normally does right now. I don't know what it is, but I will say something isn't right with him.
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This isn't the first finals, or playoffs he's disappeared in. How is this so odd? Wasn't this one of the complaints he had in Cleveland? Wasn't aggressive enough? Seemed disinterested at times? I'm actually not surprised that James has disappeared in the 4th and that Wade hasn't.
 
LeBron might be better for the regular season and some of the playoffs, but Wade is better when it counts the most.

Kind of like Chamberlain and Russell
 
bucky said:
This isn't the first finals, or playoffs he's disappeared in. How is this so odd? Wasn't this one of the complaints he had in Cleveland? Wasn't aggressive enough? Seemed disinterested at times? I'm actually not surprised that James has disappeared in the 4th and that Wade hasn't.
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What other finals did he disappear in?
 
Wade gets a pass when he screws up down the stretch, because he's more likable.

Iit wasn't Lebron who had a key turnover and missed FT at the end of Game 4. Not suggesting Lebron played well, but if that had been him instead of Wade he'd be roundly criticised.

Its funny how people say Lebron needs other players to succeed, yet won MVP's and 60 games per year and went to the Finals with no help in Cleveland. Wade, without Shaq or Lebron, is usually in the lottery or getting bounced as an 8 seed.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Wade gets a pass when he screws up down the stretch, because he's more likable.

Iit wasn't Lebron who had a key turnover and missed FT at the end of Game 4. Not suggesting Lebron played well, but if that had been him instead of Wade he'd be roundly criticised.

Its funny how people say Lebron needs other players to succeed, yet won MVP's and 60 games per year and went to the Finals with no help in Cleveland. Wade, without Shaq or Lebron, is usually in the lottery or getting bounced as an 8 seed.
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So James has a 'special' on what team he wants to play for and gets more flack than the other guys, SHOCKING

If James is the 'best player in the league' and doesnt need anyone, why he is MIA in the 4th quater IN THE FINALS and constantly giving Wade the ball?

Anyway, until proven otherwise, James in a blown up Scottie Pippen
 
Wade wouldn't even be in the finals to begin with without Lebron. Lebron got there with Mo Williams and Delante West. That team won 15 games without him.

I hate Lebron and am rooting hard for Dirk & Kidd. But I can be fair. Lebron dominated the entire playoffs. He's held to an unreal standard. Some of which he brought on himself, but its still not a realistic standard. All great players have had bad games in big spots.

Anyone who would start a team with Wade instead of Lebron doesn't have a clue.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Wade wouldn't even be in the finals to begin with without Lebron. Lebron got there with Mo Williams and Delante West. That team won 15 games without him.

I hate Lebron and am rooting hard for Dirk & Kidd. But I can be fair. Lebron dominated the entire playoffs. He's held to an unreal standard. Some of which he brought on himself, but its still not a realistic standard. All great players have had bad games in big spots.

Anyone who would start a team with Wade instead of Lebron doesn't have a clue.
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How is expecting a superstar/top player in the league to actually score some points in the 4th quarter an 'unreal standard'?
 
That's ignoring the years and years of criticism LeBron has already received... this isn't the first game or first series were people have openly criticized his game.
 
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