Left 4 Dead: 2

[j.hen]

I'm online now if anyone else wants in.

 

[j.hen]

i have the biggest boner ever right now for some zombie killin' who else

 

[j.hen]

I'll be down for just about any time tomorrow.

 

[BazookaJoe5]

Anyone want to play tonight?

 

[BazookaJoe5]

BTW, the Hard Rain campaign is fucking awesome.

 

[Twigg4075]

I start back to work tonight so no more late night sessions unless it's on my nights off.

 

[tigstah]

i will be back online on saturday.....finally.

 

[Twigg4075]

Apparently we aren't the only ones that think this game is overly difficult. I was listening to the CAGcast from black Friday and Shipwreck was discussing how he played with guys from Joystiq when they first received review copies. They all agreed that the game was overly difficult and took the fun out of the game.

Shipwreck had mentioned before that the game seems to ramp up way too much when you have four actual humans playing, which doesn't make a lot of sense. It forces you to play the game solo just to get through it which defeats the purpose.

Apparently Joystiq gave the game a pretty poor review and Shipwreck said he has no intentions of playing the game again unless there is a patch.

The bottom line is that frustration is not fun and this game is definitely frustrating. I never had issues like this with the first one. Normal difficulty felt appropriate. It's pretty sad that four decent gamers have to play on Easy to get through the game.

 

[brees fan]

Apparently we aren't the only ones that think this game is overly difficult. I was listening to the CAGcast from black Friday and Shipwreck was discussing how he played with guys from Joystiq when they first received review copies. They all agreed that the game was overly difficult and took the fun out of the game.

Shipwreck had mentioned before that the game seems to ramp up way too much when you have four actual humans playing, which doesn't make a lot of sense. It forces you to play the game solo just to get through it which defeats the purpose.

Apparently Joystiq gave the game a pretty poor review and Shipwreck said he has no intentions of playing the game again unless there is a patch.

The bottom line is that frustration is not fun and this game is definitely frustrating. I never had issues like this with the first one. Normal difficulty felt appropriate. It's pretty sad that four decent gamers have to play on Easy to get through the game.

Yea fuck that mall too...

 

[Twigg4075]

Here's Joystiqs review:
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/20/review-left-4-dead-2/

Pay special attention to the 'Delicate balance of Fun' section. I couldn't agree more.

 

[calgaryballer]

Here's Joystiqs review:
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/20/review-left-4-dead-2/

Pay special attention to the 'Delicate balance of Fun' section. I couldn't agree more.

On their podcast 2-3 weeks ago, they explained the reasoning after they were inundated with comments saying their review was stupid. Basically, for all the technical improvements, this game lost the fine balance of challenge and fun that the first one had.

It does seem the PC version is a little bit better, I've been following the community and haven't seen the same comments I have on the consoles

 

[leaffan]

On their podcast 2-3 weeks ago, they explained the reasoning after they were inundated with comments saying their review was stupid. Basically, for all the technical improvements, this game lost the fine balance of challenge and fun that the first one had.

It does seem the PC version is a little bit better, I've been following the community and haven't seen the same comments I have on the consoles

Its because it's a port basically. I bet yah they didn't slow down a lot and the console guys just can't keep up. I found anyways the turning and such to be slower on the console then how I had it on PC when I was playing L4D1.

The other thing too people were just stomping on them about the first game not being long enough and fairly easy (ie me), now they changed it and people don't like how everything is longer and harder. Such is the life at Valve.

I still refuse to buy it btw

 

[Twigg4075]

Its because it's a port basically. I bet yah they didn't slow down a lot and the console guys just can't keep up. I found anyways the turning and such to be slower on the console then how I had it on PC when I was playing L4D1.

The other thing too people were just stomping on them about the first game not being long enough and fairly easy (ie me), now they changed it and people don't like how everything is longer and harder. Such is the life at Valve.

I still refuse to buy it btw

That's not it at all. Read the Joystiq review. The game is completely unbalanced with the special infected and overall zombies it sends at you at once. It's ridiculous on Normal and only bearable on Easy, which is fucking retarded.

 

[leaffan]

That's not it at all. Read the Joystiq review. The game is completely unbalanced with the special infected and overall zombies it sends at you at once. It's ridiculous on Normal and only bearable on Easy, which is fucking retarded.

People wanted more zombies including the infected so thats what I did.

Its valve they will fix the balance issues though. Just wait a while.

 

[BazookaJoe5]

They went way overboard with it. The last level of the first campaign is fucking relentless on Normal. You have Smokers and Jockeys and Boomers and then here comes a Tank and oh as soon as you kill that Tank lets send another Tank while still sending hordes of regular infected at you, and lets spawn a Spitter and a Charger as well, just for shits and giggles, all while you are trying to collect these gas cans all over the place. It's brutal. If one person gets incapped you can fucking forget it because you'll never get them up.

One of my friends plays it on Expert and I have no idea how he does it, I'd sooner punch myself in the balls over and over again than do that. It'd probably be more fun.

 

[Twigg4075]

Its valve they will fix the balance issues though. Just wait a while.

That's what I'm hoping.

The Spitter's acid vomit is also waaaaaaaay overpowered.

L4D1 was fun. Sure it could get challenging but it never seemed cheap. This game oozes cheap.

 

[Buzzman]

My 2 sisters play this game and have had it for 3 weeks and have beaten a campign only 3-4 times.

 

[tigstah]

i remember playing with twigg last week, we had to switch to easy just to finish one campaign. i was playing earlier, we ran into 3 witches within a few hundred yards. there are too many special infected. l4d1 was perfectly balanced. the one thing i can say, the weapons are more plentiful. i will be back online later tonite....trying to survive on normal again.....

 

[leaffan]

One thing I should add.

When L4D1 came out it was fairly inbalanced as well. They fixed it quite quickly though. I remember by the end of December it was basically where it is today.

 

[tigstah]

i am hoping so....the heavy rain campaign is crazy..i couldnt see crap. i do like the defribulator. that comes in handy...when you are overpowered and killed someone can bring you back.