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Meeting Goes Wrong, Cutler Officially asks to be Traded

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Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night that he will not report to the team's first meeting on Monday and has formally asked to be traded. He confirmed that a Saturday meeting with first-year coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective while McDaniels offered another viewpoint on Sunday night.

"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," Cutler said. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.

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Matthew Emmons/US PresswireJay Cutler said while new Denver coach Josh McDaniels hasn't been critical of him, Cutler can no longer trust McDaniels.

"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know," Cutler added. "I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [Saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."

Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their offseason program.

Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.

"I really have wanted to avoid a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," McDaniels said. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [Saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].

"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us. There wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].

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"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our offseason program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."

Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.

"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," Cutler said. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."

As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.

Cutler said: "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things, but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."

Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.

"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [Shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because it was the second-ranked offense in football," Cutler said. "But I didn't push for a trade then."

McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.

"That just isn't true," McDaniels said. "Not a word has been said about that."

Cutler added: "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."

McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.

"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," McDaniels said. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [Saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."

Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.

"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," Cutler said. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"

He also explained that his house being put up for sale was "nothing more than a coincidence."

"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," Cutler said. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."

As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said: "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"

Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.

"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," Cook said. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."

Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."

That wasn't going to happen, either.
 
Man does Cutler sound like such a fucking dolt.

"Oh how I wish Josh would have called me up to go for some coffee and we could chit-chit and share a few laughs"

Fucking homo QB deserves to go to Detroit.


You are a football player you douchebag, act like one.
 
If we are trading him, I'll take #20 and #33 from the Lions. They can keep #1 overall, it's too expensive. #20 + #33 is probably still less than #1, and I'll take two good players over one every time.

Not gonna happen. Your more likely to hit #20 and a third rounder...or #1 and a third. I think Detroit wants out of #1 overall.

Stafford to the Broncos...For the bust.
 
Not gonna happen. Your more likely to hit #20 and a third rounder...or #1 and a third. I think Detroit wants out of #1 overall.

Stafford to the Broncos...For the bust.

I think that's what the Lions are trying to work out, what draft picks to send, it'd prolly be like you said, #20 and a 3rd and 4th, idk.

And yeah this whole thing has blown up so far that the Broncos have to trade him..
 
This is turning into one big clusterfuck. Worst case scenario: Cutler gets traded for a couple decent picks (or a good young defensive player) and Chris Simms takes over and (inevitably) falls on his face.
 
Cutler is really starting to look like the bitch in this situation. He isn't giving this a chance at all. Initially, sure, him getting pissed off is understandable. It was dumb of McDaniel to put him on the market, and Cutler was right to be angry.

But after numerous attempts to make amends Cutler is still coming up with excuses to leave. It reminds me of a dude who decides he's gonna break up with his girl no matter what and just has to wait for a good argument.
 
To me, this one of those situations where no one is right. Cutler might have some justification for being pissed, but he's not exactly handling it particularly well. McDaniel's made a bad miscalculation with Cassell and doesn't seem to have made the right moves since then to patch things up. Sometimes, when your QB wants to hear "this was all a big misunderstanding, you're our guy now and forever", then that's what you have to tell him.
 
Jay Cutler comes across as having a VERY BIG ego for a qb thats bearly over 500 as an NFL starter and helped blow a 3 game divisional lead last year.

Mcdaniels went about this all wrong but Cutlers bitchazzdness isint helping at all.

Before anybody qoutes me , im gonna say Jay Cutler looks to have a VERY BRIGHT future and is better than alot of nfl starting qbs. He just has done nothing in my opinion that warrants the size of his ego (thats what it seems at least)
 
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to play Devil's Advocate:

Cutler had a pro-bowl season and was seemingly successful. He had a good relation with Shanny and an offense that was built around him. Nice situation.

Coach he likes gets fired and a new guy comes in and tries to get rid of him. New coach then makes it known that he wants a QB to build himself and he doesn't like Cutler's style of play.


Nobody, in sports or not, likes a new asshole boss. Fact is Shanny shouldn't have been fired and McDaniels tries to get rid of Cutler as his first move. Great message to send to the guy. How would you feel if your employer fires your boss and tries to fire you but couldn't?
 
To me, this one of those situations where no one is right. Cutler might have some justification for being pissed, but he's not exactly handling it particularly well. McDaniel's made a bad miscalculation with Cassell and doesn't seem to have made the right moves since then to patch things up. Sometimes, when your QB wants to hear "this was all a big misunderstanding, you're our guy now and forever", then that's what you have to tell him.

Agreed, but I think McDaniels has handled it much worse. He's had several opportunities to make things right, and it appears he's not really "making the effort". To me, its understandable why Cutler would be upset.
 
McDaniels seems more wrong then Cutler does imo.

Why?

Because he's taking the stance of, "I'm the fucking boss and it's my fucking team?" :flex:


If he caved to Cutler's faggotry the rest of the team could view that in a bad manner for him. A new coach doesn't want to show that..no? If there's one thing McD is going to take with him from NE it's whatever BB does to keep all those players in check. Cutler keeps running to the media blowing up these stories with poor interpretations to make the Broncs look bad like he's been doing the entire time.


Quit the gay personal shit, football is a m'fin business where WINNING is most important. New Coach wants a QB that's not going to choke and throw INT's (i.e. LOSING).........so what? It's his team, he can roll out any kind of offence he wants. Cutler thinks he's earned something by playing losing football and choking away a division? What...because he made the fucking pro bowl or something? The most useless accomplishment in football? It's fan driven......it's an f'n popularity contest. The only thing Cutler has proved is that Brandon Marshall is a sick WR and he's a poor imitator of Brett Favre.


Outside of the initial denial of trade, McDaniels isn't doing much wrong IMO. He's setting the tone for how things will work for him.


Some of you guys are lame as fuck. "How would you feel if your boss wanted to get rid of you? Waaaaaahhh" Fucking feelings? Feelings? Give me a break.
 
Cutler had a bunch of young WR's who were actually getting somewhere this past season, and would have gotten better over the years learning the system. The only thing McDaniels had to do was get the right defensive players in their slots and the Broncos would be even better then they were last year. The fact that McDaniels and whoever else was involved were trying to acquire a new QB, shows that this team is clueless. Cutler did a lot considering how many RBs they went through last year, none of which were chizzled veterans.They should be talking about getting a RB in there, as well as patching up one of the worst defenses ever in Denver, not talking about acquiring a possible 1 year wonder from NE. Nobody realizes it's a business more than me around here, but even I can see through the bullshit that is going on in Denver, and it looks like Cutler is making the right decision here by packing up his bags, and waiting in the lobby for his cab outta there. Just to show I still love you KG here is a cool smiley lol.

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lol.

Clueless? How so? Cutler is a SB capable QB? Cause I don't see it losing more than winning meaning that.

Yeah he had no running game.......so he threw more often to pad his stats? So does that mean his numbers are overrated because of RB injuries? He's still turning the ball over close to two times a game with or without RB's to hand off to.

You cannot win consistently with those kind of turnovers and I don't see that changing with how he plays the game.

As for the drama......was it not Cutler that initially stirred up shit asking for a trade.....even before they tried to swing that three team deal? Like c'mon.



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"If you can fire a Mike Shanahan, you can trade a kid like that," an NFL source said. "Everyone is disposable in this league. And (Cutler's) a guy who hasn't proven a thing yet. He's had some great statistics, but he hasn't won a thing yet.

"It's well known that Cutler is a highly sensitized person, but what are we really talking about here? A guy's feelings got hurt? In my mind, this is so much ado about nothing. The smartest thing Cutler can do is just shut up."
 
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This past year was his second year full time starter, he didn't have any veteran WRs so when the receivers made mistakes they were BIG. Not sure who you are comparing him too, but go look up Elways numbers and you will see some similarities. It's hard to judge how hard Shanny's system really is but I guess sitting around the house high on a message board makes you the expert here. Cassell had a grade A offense for the most part and an amazing coaching staff. The fact of the matter is, and this is the most important....WHY THE FUCK ARE THE BRONCOS SHOPPING FOR A QB when they have so many other problems?

And the part of the amazing coaching staff that worked with him and called his plays is now coaching in Denver. I honestly dont see how far fetched it was the McDaniels rather have a QB that he has worked with for about 5 seasons than a guy with a known attitude problem.
 
This past year was his second year full time starter, he didn't have any veteran WRs so when the receivers made mistakes they were BIG. Not sure who you are comparing him too, but go look up Elways numbers and you will see some similarities. It's hard to judge how hard Shanny's system really is but I guess sitting around the house high on a message board makes you the expert here. Cassell had a grade A offense for the most part and an amazing coaching staff. The fact of the matter is, and this is the most important....WHY THE FUCK ARE THE BRONCOS SHOPPING FOR A QB when they have so many other problems?


Well the Broncos obviously wanted to get away from whatever Shanahan was doing. What would be so different for Cassel coming into Denver? Moss/Welker for Marshall/Royal......a downgrade yes, but not much of one. Both teams have banged up RB's that picked at random on game day. And Cassel has a year in the offensive system to be put in place in Denver. He'd be a step up for where Cutler would be regardless of talent levels.

Compare Cutler to Elway? Sure.

Jay Cutler has started 37 games with a record of 17-20.
John Elway after starting 37 games had a record of 25-12.

Passing stats are fun for fantasy football and pro bowl voting.




p.s. Who the fuck sits around the house on VSN? Only on company time. ;)
 
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