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[360] Microsoft: "2011 is all about Kinect"

Big Gears of War guy?

No, I hate Gears. All of the stuff I'm pumped for is multiplatform, but I don't have a PS3.

Games like Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3, LA Noire, Child of Eden, Deus Ex, Rage, and Portal 2 should be amazing.

Also, I'm very interested in The Old Republic. In general, I'm against MMOs and subscription-based gaming, but this game just might get me.
 
All you vaginas overreacting to motion gaming.
Who cares.
If it works, it's great for all of us.
If it doesn't, we all continue to play the way we have.

I'd love motion gaming to work, it would build the gaming universe.
If it doesn't, so be it.

I look at my buddy, a big time NFL fan, thinks Madden looks very cool, you put a controller in his hand, it's like putting me in a room with hot women. It doesn't work.
 
I think everyone should be worried that kid games and portable gaming is getting this much attention.

COD BO may sell a billion $ worth but every casual dickhead thinks *angry birds* when they think about games. Epic is already spending alot of time and effort into making unreal engine nice and neat for the douchepad and android.
MS concentrating on a market that seems incapable of producing anything other than bootleg children's games is worrisome.
That PS3 list might as well be dubbed games noone will give a shit about. The same list of games was supposed to make waves 2-3 years ago and noone gave a fuck then.
Portal 2 and GOW 3 are the only things I'm excited about. They are also monumentally easy for them to fuck up.
Yup I love halo...cod..gow... but I'm bored to tears with what's out there and what's coming up. Unless someone comes up with some insane way to use motion tracking with 3D displays 2011 is much of the same Ol same Ol.
6 year old hardware = boredom.
Smartphones will have gpu power equal to ps3 / 360 by years end ...there's a race for 3d interfacing. Consoles seem asleep at the wheel.
PC gaming is so dead it no longer has anything to force consoles into the next Gen so no hope there either.

Blah....
 
I think everyone should be worried that kid games and portable gaming is getting this much attention.

i been saying this for years. its been a growing trend and is even more at the forefront today. hardcore gamers are becoming irrelevant to what the industry is doing. They are all looking for the next big thing that will intrigue the younger generation. These motion games are all about group interaction and family gaming. But these are games mostly geared towards young kids and their parents who can play without it being to advanced for them.

the industry will still keep pumping out games for the hardcore gamer, but the trend has also shifted bigtime into making a game that can be copied several times over. This allows them to Madden a product for a steady flow of revenue while they focus on developing these new technologies.

The hardcore gamer is really a moron and will buy games no matter what. the dves know this. Look at black ops compared to COD4. its essentially the same game and the devs dont have to invest much money into its new features and they make a shitload off of it. They made billions off of a game that was created in 2007. 3 games that are the same as the original.
 
i been saying this for years. its been a growing trend and is even more at the forefront today. hardcore gamers are becoming irrelevant to what the industry is doing. They are all looking for the next big thing that will intrigue the younger generation. These motion games are all about group interaction and family gaming. But these are games mostly geared towards young kids and their parents who can play without it being to advanced for them.

the industry will still keep pumping out games for the hardcore gamer, but the trend has also shifted bigtime into making a game that can be copied several times over. This allows them to Madden a product for a steady flow of revenue while they focus on developing these new technologies.

The hardcore gamer is really a moron and will buy games no matter what. the dves know this. Look at black ops compared to COD4. its essentially the same game and the devs dont have to invest much money into its new features and they make a shitload off of it. They made billions off of a game that was created in 2007. 3 games that are the same as the original.

Except CoD4 is better then the rest. :shifty:
 
wrong again

LittleBigPlanet 2
Killzone 3
Motorstorm: Apocalypse
Ico/Shadow of the Colossus HD Collection
Resistance 3
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Twisted Metal
inFamous 2
Socom 4

Yakuza 4
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
MLB 2011: The Show

Disgaea 4
Ar Tonelico 3
Hyperdimension Neptunia
Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll Zero

and exlusive PSN games...

Journey
Eufloria
Tokyo Jungle
PixelJunk Shooter 2

That PS3 list might as well be dubbed games noone will give a shit about. The same list of games was supposed to make waves 2-3 years ago and noone gave a fuck then.
Are you delusional? Every one of the games I bolded has sold millions of copies (every game in the franchise). No one gives a fuck about them? LMAO.
 
buying them doesnt make them good.

there is only one game on that list i would pay $60 for. Then i would rent 2 more of them.

Only a few have had any real staying power
 
buying them doesnt make them good.

there is only one game on that list i would pay $60 for. Then i would rent 2 more of them.

Only a few have had any real staying power

And just because YOU wouldn't buy them doesn't mean they aren't any good either.

But if you want more proof every one of those games has over an 80 on Metacritic. So between reviews and sales I think it's easy to say they are quality games. To say "no one gives a shit about them" it's a fucking joke. But the mere fact alone that these games sell millions means OBVIOUSLY someone cares about them.

But here are the scores anyway.

LBP=95
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/littlebigplanet
Killzone 2=91
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/killzone-2
MotorStorm=84
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/motorstorm
MotorStorm:PR=82
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/motorstorm-pacific-rift
Ico=90
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/ico
SotC=91
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/shadow-of-the-colossus
Resistance=86
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/resistance-fall-of-man
Resistance 2=87
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/resistance-2
Uncharted=88
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/uncharted-drakes-fortune
Uncharted 2=96 (ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATED GAMES EVER.)
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/uncharted-2-among-thieves
inFamous=85
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/infamous
Twisted Metal=91
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/twisted-metal-black
The Show=91
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/mlb-10-the-show
 
Are you delusional? Every one of the games I bolded has sold millions of copies (every game in the franchise). No one gives a fuck about them? LMAO.

If anyone gave two cruds about them PS3 wouldn't have suffered the way it did.

The user scores and complete lack of impact on the industry speak volumes about those games.

Even Madden 10/11 sold millions and got 85+ on MetaCritic.

Compared to the GOW , Halo , COD taking turns ass raping sales records those games are not worth hyping.
Do any of those games even remotely have the sustained online communities the above franchises have ?

Angry Pigs would likely make more impact than any of the titles posted would.
 
If anyone gave two cruds about them PS3 wouldn't have suffered the way it did.

The user scores and complete lack of impact on the industry speak volumes about those games.

Even Madden 10/11 sold millions and got 85+ on MetaCritic.

Compared to the GOW , Halo , COD taking turns ass raping sales records those games are not worth hyping.
Do any of those games even remotely have the sustained online communities the above franchises have ?

Angry Pigs would likely make more impact than any of the titles posted would.

You are clueless. Have you ever actually checked the uses scores on Metacritic. The reason they are so low is because fanboys from either side go in and post 0 or 1/10 ratings. It;s like that with any console exclusive.

"Complete lack of impact"? Yeah, you're right, none of those games have left an impact on gaming at all. :rolleyes: I guess Halo or your beloved GoW haven't impacted it either?
 
You are clueless. Have you ever actually checked the uses scores on Metacritic. The reason they are so low is because fanboys from either side go in and post 0 or 1/10 ratings. It;s like that with any console exclusive.

"Complete lack of impact"? Yeah, you're right, none of those games have left an impact on gaming at all. :rolleyes: I guess Halo or your beloved GoW haven't impacted it either?

Again..Madden 10/11 had 85s as well.

You still didnt answer the question. Did or do any of those games have the online communities the games I mentioned had ? I really dont know , i dont think the numbers begin to compare.

Its like comparing a Palm Pre to iPhone 4 you cant point to a million reviews but seriously Im talking about anticipation and desire for upcoming games. You can harp all you want but those games are mostly sequels to other games that were hyped for no reason. Heck you could say KZ2 was the biggest flop this console gen. The amount of promise and hype given to it and what it actually delivered were worlds apart.
PS3 is in the position its in because most of those titles simply were enough to draw attention.
 
Again..Madden 10/11 had 85s as well.

You still didnt answer the question. Did or do any of those games have the online communities the games I mentioned had ? I really dont know , i dont think the numbers begin to compare.

Its like comparing a Palm Pre to iPhone 4 you cant point to a million reviews but seriously Im talking about anticipation and desire for upcoming games. You can harp all you want but those games are mostly sequels to other games that were hyped for no reason. Heck you could say KZ2 was the biggest flop this console gen. The amount of promise and hype given to it and what it actually delivered were worlds apart.
PS3 is in the position its in because most of those titles simply were enough to draw attention.

Because Barney's Great Adventure (1998) grossed more money than Moon (2009), does it make it a better movie?
 
Again..Madden 10/11 had 85s as well.

You still didnt answer the question. Did or do any of those games have the online communities the games I mentioned had ? I really dont know , i dont think the numbers begin to compare.

Its like comparing a Palm Pre to iPhone 4 you cant point to a million reviews but seriously Im talking about anticipation and desire for upcoming games. You can harp all you want but those games are mostly sequels to other games that were hyped for no reason. Heck you could say KZ2 was the biggest flop this console gen. The amount of promise and hype given to it and what it actually delivered were worlds apart.
PS3 is in the position its in because most of those titles simply were enough to draw attention.

When you said KZ2 the only thing I could think of was Dj's thread on MM with the title about KZ2 and how the trailer was real from the game. Later on we found it was just a cutscene to a fairly meh game.

lol @ that list btw. Most of them are fairly mediocre titles that were hyped by starved PS3 gamers (resistance lol). The only worthy upcoming games on that list are infamous 2 socom 4 and uncharted 3.
 
When you said KZ2 the only thing I could think of was Dj's thread on MM with the title about KZ2 and how the trailer was real from the game. Later on we found it was just a cutscene to a fairly meh game.

lol @ that list btw. Most of them are fairly mediocre titles that were hyped by starved PS3 gamers (resistance lol). The only worthy upcoming games on that list are infamous 2 socom 4 and uncharted 3.

As a 360 gamer, I wish we were getting LBP2, KZ3, and Twisted Metal (along with the 3 you mentioned).

I think Killzone doesn't get enough credit for being an upper-echelon FPS. I only played a little of KZ2 at a friend's house, but it was gorgeous and I certainly enjoyed it more than CoD.
 
As a 360 gamer, I wish we were getting LBP2, KZ3, and Twisted Metal (along with the 3 you mentioned).

I think Killzone doesn't get enough credit for being an upper-echelon FPS. I only played a little of KZ2 at a friend's house, but it was gorgeous and I certainly enjoyed it more than CoD.

Little Big Planet was stupid as fuck imo.

Twisted Metal though I missed and should be included. I used to play that shit back in the day on my PS1. That game and Gran Turismo 2 were the reason my PS1 went in for its second laser replacement.

Killzone didn't impress me but I'm over critical of FPSs these days.
 
Little Big Planet was stupid as fuck imo.

Twisted Metal though I missed and should be included. I used to play that shit back in the day on my PS1. That game and Gran Turismo 2 were the reason my PS1 went in for its second laser replacement.

Killzone didn't impress me but I'm over critical of FPSs these days.

Didn't play the first LBP, but the amount of freedom Media Molecule has put into their creation engine is pretty damn impressive for #2. But if platformers aren't really your thing, that's that I guess.

As for Killzone, which FPS games do it better? I really like BFBC2, but other than that I have a hard time coming up with any.
 
Killzone 2 is/was a fucking awesome game. The online is great too.

LBP is in a fucking league of it's own as far as the creation aspect is concerned. And LBP2 is going to shit all over the original.
 
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