MLB 11: The Show First Look

[Irish]

Didnt Golden Sombrero have a good run until VSN Crash 2010? Then Houtz left and everything died.

It might be possible to get something going around release.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Didnt Golden Sombrero have a good run until VSN Crash 2010? Then Houtz left and everything died.

It might be possible to get something going around release.

TGS was rolling along, and would have finished with or without Houtz, if not for SITE DRAMA '10. We switched sites about 4 times, killing all momentum.

Id prefer to wait until well after release, when the buzz dies off and only the hardcores are still playing. This way you have less dropouts.

 

[ryne candy]

I don't care about 360 controllers but I've been hooked on PS controllers since the PS2. I already have every color, except for Pink on the PS3 and will probably get this one (releasing around The Show's release).

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

W2B... we know who will and won't stick around, shit I was horrible at the game and still enjoy it up to this day (played yesterday for a while)I say 12 team MAX for a league. After the first season is complete than take on the other guys that you aren't so sure about if they are still playing.

Also I'd really like to see an actual online franchise type deal instead of just a play games league. That will keep people around the idea of continuing to make their team better etc, and then even if a few drop out it wouldn't completely cripple the league, there would still be plenty to do.

 

[MmmmBeeeeer]

I'm down for the league every year but it never fails that when the league starts I get too busy with work to even have time. Not to mention the online makes me want to punch someone, I'll buy if they get that worked out. Actually I'll buy it anyways, but I hope they get online worked out.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

I'm down for the league every year but it never fails that when the league starts I get too busy with work to even have time. Not to mention the online makes me want to punch someone, I'll buy if they get that worked out. Actually I'll buy it anyways, but I hope they get online worked out.

Other than playing KillGod's canadian lagfest games I had no problems at all with online, was actually pretty fluid last year.

 

[Maynard]

FUCK ANALOG CONTROL

Why do people want this? It ruins every game.

BOOO

For this game, the pitching interface is already perfect, and as you said, the face buttons are taylor made for the bases in any baseball game.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

this game is in desperate need of analog pitching. i like the face buttons for hitting and fielding, but without analog pitching it just gets too easy. analog will make the user be able to determine his worth on the mound by forcing you to be accurate with the stick or suffer a loss of control. With buttons, its all about the slider setting to determine control. That meter doesnt seem to have any say in the type of control you would have.

i just hope they allow the player the option to choose default or analog for each area of the game....separate options for Hitting, Pitching and Fielding are a must. i dont want to be forced to use analog fielding because i want analog pitching

The biggest change to the game comes with the addition of pure analog control. That's right, buttons are about as hip these days as players wearing stirrups, so Sony has finally changed the control scheme for hitting, pitching and throwing to be all analog-based (although if you want to play old-school and use buttons, you can still find last year's controls in the options menu).

 

[killgod]

Other than playing KillGod's canadian lagfest games I had no problems at all with online, was actually pretty fluid last year.

:lesmug:

Canadian lag FTW.

This first look made my dick move, I don't know why the hate for analog controls from some of you guys!

The sticks reinvented how NHL, PGA and I believe NBA is played on the consoles, why not MLB? All those games were made much better with the sticks as the primary control!

I'm confident SCEA can do this well. Not that I found the controls to suck, I'm just not a fan of "normal swing" and "power swing" as separate buttons. I think new controls might turn the online game into less of a HR fest and more about clutch hitting for success.

Also, I seriously upgraded my internet just this month to 25 down/7 up (not that it was poor before when it comes to gaming 7 down/1 up, but now it's much improved) so lag from my end shouldn't exist at all, it's all on the game.


I'm 100% in for a league, and helping run it too. Just need to wait for more detailed information on the online mode, but it sounds like it's something we can make good use of. Simulating and resetting games is HUGE!

Sounds like we can have a 30 team league (if we wanted) with some CPU some Human, which is cool in this game because the CPU is actually worth playing unlike EA Sports games.

Never had as much fun in an online league than what I had with The Show 09, so hopefully we can get something going this year better than last. If we use the in game mode and setup an AIM blast group to start, we can avoid using a forum entirely so we're not subject to any drama.

 

[Maynard]

just reading about the pitching control....its nothing more pushing down then up. thats gay. I wanted 2K analog controls.

 

[killgod]

just reading about the pitching control....its nothing more pushing down then up. thats gay. I wanted 2K analog controls.

Yeah I dunno if they could just outright copy them, but I did find those pretty cool from the 2K demo.

Then again 2K basically took Skate's control scheme and applied it to baseball.

 

[Rudi]

Well hell sounds like we need to get a league up in this bitch!

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

And OOBL gets Phillies :shifty:

 

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[Maynard]

it difference is noticeable and alot better this year. I am excited about the new lighting they talked about and the weather stuff is awesome. adding balks is huge for online play

we havnt had a good league since the 1st season we did. the format since then has sucked and created to many problems. switching to more players and more games was a big mistake. everyone is all gung ho at the start then after a couple weeks u are having to replace half the players. i didnt care for the level last year online....i know not many people felt the same way. i just wish we had experimented with the level before jumping in head first. We got lucky in season 1 and the level worked out great but last year didnt feel right and seemed to be all about who had the best teams rather than who actually played the best. then the forum shit didnt help at all.

a 22 game schedule with 16 owners was perfect. if sonys online league work and they fix all the OBVIOUS things then u might be able to run a full league

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Sony leagues were pretty good by the end of the year. The only issue, and its a big one, was the leagues would sometimes randomly freeze up. And disconnections of any sort were simply tossed out and not counted. Not a problem if you were playing guys you know, though.

The other advantage to sony leagues were the bells and whistles like Opening Day, trades, injuries, free agents, etc.

 

[Maynard]

say what u want, but the 22 game league we did was the only one that finished. everyone talks a good game when it comes to an expanded league but then after a few weeks they move on to another game.....its just the reality.

btw, i am talking about the houtz league that you are praising...nothing against him and it wasnt his fault. But on vsn u can not have a full league of players. this is not a gaming site

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

say what u want, but the 22 game league we did was the only one that finished. everyone talks a good game when it comes to an expanded league but then after a few weeks they move on to another game.....its just the reality.

btw, i am talking about the houtz league that you are praising...nothing against him and it wasnt his fault. But on vsn u can not have a full league of players. this is not a gaming site

The Golden Sombrero failed to finish for multiple reasons. The two primary ones:

-houtz vanished
-site drama forced us to switch sites 3 times

Despite momentum being killed everytime we switched sites, and a bunch of guys dropping (and I remember each and every person who dropped, and won't forget if we start something back up), we still nearly finished before everyone finally gave up.

Had nothing to do with the length of the season. Things were rolling and on fire until the site drama.

I have a long memory of everything that went down, and will have plenty of advice for whoever tries to put something together for '11.

 

[killgod]

whoa whoa, houtz ran a league? :lesmug:


I think between the guys that have been around playing MLB the past couple years, we know what will work in league and what it takes for it to not only run well but finish.

once we get a final idea of how online leagues will work, then a decision can be made whether it's best or if LD is still the best way to go. at that point, (which really isn't for a long while) you can start to hammer out the specifics.

it's really hard to speculate on what's best when we don't know what the game offers in detail. so when it comes to league size it's totally up in the air.

12-16 worked well, 30 was a bit mental and failed, although I didn't think it went THAT poorly and it could have finished under the right circumstances. however, with competitive CPU teams being in the mix that opens up new viewpoints on the subject. really the amount of human/cpu owners is irrelevant now, hard deadlines and simmed games keep the committed owners happy and playing which is all that matters. it's not hard to keep on top of those things, i mastered this with Turducken, it's what made that league flow as well as it did.

nobody has to wait, league always progresses, results always happen. provided the game is what this first look suggests, then this can be how the league is and the concerns around total human owners becomes moot.

just my take on it, but again it's pretty early to really say anything.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

whoa whoa, houtz ran a league? :lesmug:


I think between the guys that have been around playing MLB the past couple years, we know what will work in league and what it takes for it to not only run well but finish.

once we get a final idea of how online leagues will work, then a decision can be made whether it's best or if LD is still the best way to go. at that point, (which really isn't for a long while) you can start to hammer out the specifics.

it's really hard to speculate on what's best when we don't know what the game offers in detail. so when it comes to league size it's totally up in the air.

12-16 worked well, 30 was a bit mental and failed, although I didn't think it went THAT poorly and it could have finished under the right circumstances. however, with competitive CPU teams being in the mix that opens up new viewpoints on the subject. really the amount of human/cpu owners is irrelevant now, hard deadlines and simmed games keep the committed owners happy and playing which is all that matters. it's not hard to keep on top of those things, i mastered this with Turducken, it's what made that league flow as well as it did.

nobody has to wait, league always progresses, results always happen. provided the game is what this first look suggests, then this can be how the league is and the concerns around total human owners becomes moot.

just my take on it, but again it's pretty early to really say anything.

That's the point I was making, if we use the SCEA league there is still tons of stuff that can be done, and in baseball games, well the Show at least the CPU is actually competitive. So we can have 16 or so owners, or even start with more and not allow the league to be crippled by drop outs. I play multiple franchises every year, but obviously nothing would hold my attention as much as an online franchise where at times I play the CPU and guys that I've built a rivalry with. Well... me and W2B had some good games... KG your a cheat tho :shifty: :rofl: You killed me every time lol I'm looking forward to it and seeing what we can put together.