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MMA HOF
- Thread starter Warner2BruceTD
- Start date
LOL, just stop
Josh Barnett - Debatable. While he's always been a top HW, he's never had a point where you pointed at him where you thought "There goes the best HW in the world." His UFC run was marred by controversy, in PRIDE he was always behind guys like Nog, Fedor and CroCop and completely blew his chance at making his mark when he pissed hot at Affliction.
Rich Franklin - UFC Hall of Fame for being the ultimate company guy, not MMA HOF? Nope.
Shinya Aoki - Say what you will about him being one-dimensional, but you have to throw him in. He's had amazing run against top talent in their primes that if any other fighter had, he'd be a shoe-in and arguable LW GOAT. He's beaten Uno, Hansen, Shaolin, Alvarez, Kawajiri, Rumina Sato, and Kitaoka. Just because he lost to Gilbert Melendez (who is an elite fighter in his own right) in his stateside debut doesn't override all the other accolades,
Alistair Overeem - Nope. Very talented, but underachieved* at 205 and most of his accolades are K-1. He needs to have a quality UFC title reign to be considered.
Frank Mir -LOLNO. Next question.
Gomi - Abso-fucking-lutely. LW GOAT. Dominated the LW scene when all the top talent was in Japan. Yes, he's fallen off, but to leave him out would be a sham.
Tatsuya Kawajiri should be at least be a ballot finalist. The guy has been a LW top dog since 2003 and was still Top 10 last year before he made the jump to featherweight. It hurts that's he's never had his time in the spotlight as the #1 guy post-Shooto, but that kind of high-level longevity is almost unheard of and he's only lost to the best of the best (Alvarez, Gilbert, Aoki, Gomi and Shaolin).
Rich Franklin - UFC Hall of Fame for being the ultimate company guy, not MMA HOF? Nope.
Shinya Aoki - Say what you will about him being one-dimensional, but you have to throw him in. He's had amazing run against top talent in their primes that if any other fighter had, he'd be a shoe-in and arguable LW GOAT. He's beaten Uno, Hansen, Shaolin, Alvarez, Kawajiri, Rumina Sato, and Kitaoka. Just because he lost to Gilbert Melendez (who is an elite fighter in his own right) in his stateside debut doesn't override all the other accolades,
Alistair Overeem - Nope. Very talented, but underachieved* at 205 and most of his accolades are K-1. He needs to have a quality UFC title reign to be considered.
Frank Mir -LOLNO. Next question.
Gomi - Abso-fucking-lutely. LW GOAT. Dominated the LW scene when all the top talent was in Japan. Yes, he's fallen off, but to leave him out would be a sham.
Tatsuya Kawajiri should be at least be a ballot finalist. The guy has been a LW top dog since 2003 and was still Top 10 last year before he made the jump to featherweight. It hurts that's he's never had his time in the spotlight as the #1 guy post-Shooto, but that kind of high-level longevity is almost unheard of and he's only lost to the best of the best (Alvarez, Gilbert, Aoki, Gomi and Shaolin).
Steel Mamba
Nasty
Yall must be trolling, I only skimmed through the thread and thought it was serious. my bad.
Kuzzy Powers
Beautiful Like Moses
Based on this im not sure how much Pride you watched..
Id strongly argue Mirko has a better case then what many would consider a virtual lock, in Randy Couture.
Also Miguel Torres dominated a division for nearly 5 years, he has to atleast warrant strong consideration.
Warner2BruceTD
2011 Poster Of The Year
Gracie killer bro, he beat them all, Royce, Renzo, even Ryan & Royler, plus Carlos Newton, Vitor Belfort, Rampage, took him years to lose a fight in the early days of PRIDE (and that's against top level guys, too).
Cro Cop is more arguable but to me beating Barnett & Wandy in the same night puts him over the top.
Kuzzy Powers
Beautiful Like Moses
Mirko's career resume > Randy's. No question.
:slap:
Steel Mamba
Nasty
I'm not sure what standards you guys are going by, but it seems pretty lax imo. Cro Cop was always behind Fedor and Nog in Pride so that's not HOF worthy to me.
You should be the guy in your division at some point in your career to be in the HOF.
Saku single handedly took out 4 Gracies, during a time when they were "unbeatable".
Not to mention going 12-1 over a 4 year period and fighting the who's, who's of MMA at the time.
Kuzzy Powers
Beautiful Like Moses
Mirko was considered among the top HW's in the world for over half a decade, him being behind two sure fire, iron-clad HOFers isnt a knock on him here.