My All-Time NFL Team

[Hitman]

Haha Randy Moss wont be remembered when he's not playing anymore. Too inconsistent, he falls in the Bob Hayes category

You're fucking high if you don't recognize that Moss is a top 5 WR of all time..

 

[ram29jackson]

You're fucking high if you don't recognize that Moss is a top 5 WR of all time..

and you are not remotely bright if you do.
he had 2 meaningful years with Minn and has been a side show the rest of the time. Even with his numbers he will be forgotten sooner than alot of guys.

even the one good year with the Pats wont help him be remembered like many others before him.

 

[dell71]

Haha Randy Moss wont be remembered when he's not playing anymore. Too inconsistent, he falls in the Bob Hayes category

Funny you mention a player by name who you imply defines "not remembered".

and you are not remotely bright if you do.
he had 2 meaningful years with Minn and has been a side show the rest of the time. Even with his numbers he will be forgotten sooner than alot of guys.

even the one good year with the Pats wont help him be remembered like many others before him.

I don't mind you saying he's not a top 5 WR, but at least tell me who is in your opinion.

 

[Blick]

LOL at DoubleDeuce groaning me for my take on Derrick Thomas, one of my all time favorite players.

Oh, he's an Alabama homer...makes sense now.

For what it's worth, Javier Arenas would receive strong consideration from me as an All-Time NFL team practice squad member.

 

[Senser81]

he had 2 meaningful years with Minn and has been a side show the rest of the time. Even with his numbers he will be forgotten sooner than alot of guys.

What do you mean by "meaningful"?

Moss made Daunte Culpepper appear to be good. Moss made Tom Brady have his best season by far. Moss almost made the Pats the first 19-0 team in NFL history.

I think for all they hype surrounding Randy Moss, people don't pay enough attention to his numbers. He's already 5th all-time in receiving yards, and 2nd all-time in TDs.

 

[dell71]

What Senser said
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[KINGOFOOTBALL]

The two highest scoring offenses of all time had Randy Moss on them.
Two of the top 6 all time records for single season TDs passes were throwing to Randy Moss.
Three of the top 6 all time TD catch seasons belong to Randy Moss.


Randy Moss along with Marshall Faulk are the two most dangerous weapons Ive seen on a football field. Only argument against them is Gale Sayers , artificial turf , and lax rules.

 

[ram29jackson]

What do you mean by "meaningful"?

Moss made Daunte Culpepper appear to be good. Moss made Tom Brady have his best season by far. Moss almost made the Pats the first 19-0 team in NFL history.

I think for all they hype surrounding Randy Moss, people don't pay enough attention to his numbers. He's already 5th all-time in receiving yards, and 2nd all-time in TDs.

and none of it matters because he's been a whiney bitch..its interesting to have big numbers and yet no one wants your ass on their team and you cant make up your mind who to play for cause you complain all the time anyway.

Lance Alworth , Don Hutson, Lynn Swann had more meaningful, successful careers than he did. Its not just about numbers with the hall of fame. If it was ,Harold Jackson should have been in already in relation to players in his era.

you guys dont seem to have a historic perspective. he wont be remembered as well as many others. he will be in the ,"oh,yeah,that guy " category like Bob Hayes and Bo Jackson and Hershel Walker

 

[dell71]

and none of it matters because he's been a whiney bitch..its interesting to have big numbers and yet no one wants your ass on their team and you cant make up your mind who to play for cause you complain all the time anyway.

Lance Alworth , Don Hutson, Lynn Swann had more meaningful, successful careers than he did. Its not just about numbers with the hall of fame. If it was ,Harold Jackson should have been in already in relation to players in his era.

you guys dont seem to have a historic perspective. he wont be remembered as well as many others. he will be in the ,"oh,yeah,that guy " category like Bob Hayes and Bo Jackson and Hershel Walker

Again, your argument loses credence when referring to Bob Hayes as "oh yeah, that guy" when plenty of people remember precisely who he was and he is in the HOF. The fact he wasn't inducted until 30 plus years after his playing career ended also points to people remembering him. Whether or not you think he belongs there, he's anything but "oh yeah, that guy." Bo Jackson is remembered and revered as a Paul Bunyan like figure, hardly forgotten. Even Walker is at least remembered for helping create the Cowboys dynasty of the 90s.

Now, if you had said Harold Jackson was "oh yeah, that guy" you might have some legs. As far as his career is concerned, comparing it with Randy Moss shows a lack of historical perspective on your part. Jackson was good, had a couple great seasons. Moss has had historic seasons and was the most feared receiver in the game for a long stretch. Jackson finished in the top 10 in receiving tds 4 times. Moss has led the league in that category 5 times. I could go on all day as to why Moss is a HOFer whether he's the biggest jerk that ever walked the planet or not.

By the way, "meaningful" is a very vague term and needs definition. When you clarify what you mean by that I'm sure Moss' career will prove to have meaning, as well. And if by "successful" you mean title-winning then yes, this is the one area he falls short. But, he isn't a QB. How many rings a WR has won is far less relevant to the conversation when picking the best of all time.

 

[ram29jackson]

Again, your argument loses credence when referring to Bob Hayes as "oh yeah, that guy" when plenty of people remember precisely who he was and he is in the HOF. The fact he wasn't inducted until 30 plus years after his playing career ended also points to people remembering him. Whether or not you think he belongs there, he's anything but "oh yeah, that guy." Bo Jackson is remembered and revered as a Paul Bunyan like figure, hardly forgotten. Even Walker is at least remembered for helping create the Cowboys dynasty of the 90s.

Now, if you had said Harold Jackson was "oh yeah, that guy" you might have some legs. As far as his career is concerned, comparing it with Randy Moss shows a lack of historical perspective on your part. Jackson was good, had a couple great seasons. Moss has had historic seasons and was the most feared receiver in the game for a long stretch. Jackson finished in the top 10 in receiving tds 4 times. Moss has led the league in that category 5 times. I could go on all day as to why Moss is a HOFer whether he's the biggest jerk that ever walked the planet or not.

By the way, "meaningful" is a very vague term and needs definition. When you clarify what you mean by that I'm sure Moss' career will prove to have meaning, as well. And if by "successful" you mean title-winning then yes, this is the one area he falls short. But, he isn't a QB. How many rings a WR has won is far less relevant to the conversation when picking the best of all time.

man, you are an intellectual idiot. Where was I comparing HJ to RM as far as talent or anything else? meaningful is only vague to fools like you. The fact is Moss had a selfish meaningless career and it wil translate to lack of popularity and accolades when he retires, and theres a very good chance he wont be a first ballot hall of famer because they will want him to mature so his speech sounds relatively decent...Randy moss is just a dumb athlete who caught some balls. Not a revered historic figure for the ages of football except to dumb ghetto morons like you.

 

[ram29jackson]

point blank- Moss will just be the World B Free of football- alot of numbers that meant nothing in a team game

 

[dell71]

man, you are an intellectual idiot. Where was I comparing HJ to RM as far as talent or anything else ? meaningful is only vague to fools like you . The fact is Moss had a selfish meaningless career and it wil translate to lack of popularity and accolades when he retires, and theres a very good chance he wont be a first ballot hall of famer because they will want him to mature so his speech sounds relatively decent..Randy moss is just a dumb athlete who caught some balls. Not a revered historic figure for the ages of football except to dumb ghetto morons like you.

Since I'm obviously not as smart as you, please explain to me what the hell "meaningful" means. Is it that he will have a "lack of popularity?" So what? A lack of accolades? Hardly. He's going into the HOF. Whether or not it's on the 1st ballot I couldn't give a shit. I know he's going in. I'll even concede that he's "just a dumb athlete who caught some balls." But he's done it better than most of the people that have ever played the game. Last I checked, there are no written exams before enshrinement in Canton.

 

[steeljake]

What do you mean by "meaningful"?

Moss made Daunte Culpepper appear to be good. Moss made Tom Brady have his best season by far. Moss almost made the Pats the first 19-0 team in NFL history.

I think for all they hype surrounding Randy Moss, people don't pay enough attention to his numbers. He's already 5th all-time in receiving yards, and 2nd all-time in TDs.

and number 1 in wasted talent.

 

[ram29jackson]

Since I'm obviously not as smart as you, please explain to me what the hell "meaningful" means. Is it that he will have a "lack of popularity?" So what? A lack of accolades? Hardly. He's going into the HOF. Whether or not it's on the 1st ballot I couldn't give a shit. I know he's going in. I'll even concede that he's "just a dumb athlete who caught some balls." But he's done it better than most of the people that have ever played the game. Last I checked, there are no written exams before enshrinement in Canton.

hah thats a good answer. But if you need meaningful explained to you, it proves to me you are immature and know nothing that matters. which means you are like 90% of the people on this site anyway....

 

[dell71]

hah thats a good answer. But if you need meaningful explained to you, it proves to me you are immature and know nothing that matters. which means you are like 90% of the people on this site anyway....

Immature would be saying "I know, but I'm not telling you" like a child when asked to explain yourself which is precisely what you're doing.

 

[G-men]

hah thats a good answer. But if you need meaningful explained to you, it proves to me you are immature and know nothing that matters. which means you are like 90% of the people on this site anyway....

 

[Woy]

LOL at DoubleDeuce groaning me for my take on Derrick Thomas, one of my all time favorite players.

Oh, he's an Alabama homer...makes sense now.

For what it's worth, Javier Arenas would receive strong consideration from me as an All-Time NFL team practice squad member.

DoubleDeuce groans a lot of shit, yet is too scared to give his own shitty opinion on things.

The bolded is pretty awful reach at trying to anger him.

 

[Blick]

DoubleDeuce groans a lot of shit, yet is too scared to give his own shitty opinion on things.

The bolded is pretty awful reach at trying to anger him.

Agreed.:shakehands:

 

[FirstTimer]

hah thats a good answer. But if you need meaningful explained to you, it proves to me you are immature and know nothing that matters. which means you are like 90% of the people on this site anyway....

.............Yet you continue to post here....?

Explain meaningful or STFU

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

and you are not remotely bright if you do.
he had 2 meaningful years with Minn and has been a side show the rest of the time. Even with his numbers he will be forgotten sooner than alot of guys.

even the one good year with the Pats wont help him be remembered like many others before him.

BS. He's arguably one of the most well known athlete of our time.

7 time pro bowler, 4 time all-pro.

Ten 1,000 plus yard seasons.

Nine seasons with 10 or more TDs

Six seasons with 15 or more TDs

Holds the record for most TDs in a year w/23.

Tied for second for most TDs in a career with 153. Rice has 197. It's not likely he'll catch up to Rice, but it is plausible.

He's 5th in yardage with 14,858 yds.

8th in receptions with 954.

Out of ever WR ever, if you go by measurables (size,speed, vertical, etc.) You'd find he's in the top 3 maybe 5 in every category. He made a washed up Cunningham look all-world. He made a suckjob in Culpepper look all-world. He made an all-world QB in Brady look all-universe.

I don't mind somebody hating on Moss and saying something like he doesn't have heart, or something along those lines. But he's proven to be one of the top WR's of all time. In his prime, when he's motivated, he's the second best WR to step on the football field. Period. So use your head and stop being a hater man. :stupid: