New wave of XBL bannings (firmware detection?)

[MmmmBeeeeer]

Lots of people on other sites got banned without playing any games early with only verified copies. People are talking that MS has figured out a way to detect firmware now :whisper:


Looks like a lot of people that have been banned have LiteOn drives with 1.6 firmware

Just passing on the info. Virix, you still okay?

As you may have read online, we've been actively banning consoles from Xbox LIVE that have been modified to play pirated games. Our commitment to combat piracy and support safer and more secure gameplay for the more than 20 million members of our Xbox LIVE community remains a top priority. All consumers should know that piracy is illegal, and that modifying their Xbox 360 console to play pirated discs, violates the Xbox LIVE terms of use, will void their warranty and result in a ban from Xbox LIVE. The health of the video game business depends on customers paying for the genuine products and services they receive from manufacturers, retailers, and the third parties that support them. This would also be a good time to remind you that the warranty on an Xbox 360 console is not transferrable and if you purchase a used console that has been previously banned, you will not be able to connect to Xbox LIVE.

 

[Macken]

i aint worried bout this....

i hope not

 

[Virix]

Im still fine. They will get me eventually, but im not too worried about it.

 

[leaffan]

lol @ people being surprised at this.

All it takes is for a system check to be done and reported back to MS. Anyone who has non microsoft firmware is obviously pirating.

I'm actually surprised they haven't done this earlier. Its really insanely retarded how easy it is to hack the thing. Sooner or later they are going to start putting some stupid DRM into games and all you are going to hear from people is bitching and whining.

 

[Macken]

Microsoft only cares about playin their games early. They dont sweep unless its Halo. and thats been proven as during Halo releases is the only time people actually get banned

 

[leaffan]

BTW I would LOL hard if they did something like this for MW2. Have DRM loaded onto the disk and if a firmware check is done and not passed your console is flagged. What really would make my day is if they killed the dvd drive with the DRM like they do with some PC games.

Doing it on release day would bring the lulz.

 

[MmmmBeeeeer]

Microsoft only cares about playin their games early. They dont sweep unless its Halo. and thats been proven as during Halo releases is the only time people actually get banned

Nevermind borderlands and forza

one guy got banned and he said the only game he has is Madden :laugh:

sucks to be banned for madden

 

[MrBill]

Until c4eva announces in #fw on IRC that MS has determined a way to find the stealth code that they have been unable to find in over 3 years, I am going to say that the people who are getting banned are using spoofed drives or unsafe backups. That has been the only thing MS has ever been able to do and even then they have never done anything that wasn't overcome in short order via an iXtreme update.

 

[Spidey]

Until c4eva announces in #fw on IRC that MS has determined a way to find the stealth code that they have been unable to find in over 3 years, I am going to say that the people who are getting banned are using spoofed drives or unsafe backups. That has been the only thing MS has ever been able to do and even then they have never done anything that wasn't overcome in short order via an iXtreme update.

Truth.

I no longer have my modded XBox which makes times like these much more relaxing. Its always a risk but if you are careful and give time, c4eva has always managed to stay a step ahead on detection of the firmware itself. Even if MS has figured something out, I have little doubt c4eva would figure it out and get out an update.

Past bannings have typically been from unsafe backups from what I have seen. Rarely if ever the firmware itself.

Admittedly, its nice to not have to worry anymore. I rarely took advantage of the modding anyway.

 

[MmmmBeeeeer]

I'm not disagreeing just repeating what I read. I also read more comments from the guy banned for madden and people were saying he was probably using a nuked release whatever that means.

 

[Virix]

IMO, I agree that bad rips are why people are being caught. Also, it would be retarded for MS to kill the drive when they ban lol. People who do this type of thing know that you can replace a drive in these things for less than $30. Im not sure that would do much to scare anyone.

They still would need to find a way to stop people from gutswapping 360s. IMO, thats a bigger issue than the mod itself.

 

[Prodigal Son]

IMO, I agree that bad rips are why people are being caught. Also, it would be retarded for MS to kill the drive when they ban lol. People who do this type of thing know that you can replace a drive in these things for less than $30. Im not sure that would do much to scare anyone.

They still would need to find a way to stop people from gutswapping 360s. IMO, thats a bigger issue than the mod itself.

I'm sure it would piss people off that they have to drop 30 bucks to fix it. They're not exactly the ones who want to spend money.

 

[Virix]

Lol thats not true at all. The people who have modded systems are also the people likely to own more than one system. EVERY person I know with a modded system has at least one other in the their house.

Also, people who do this sort of thing also do things like fix the RROD themselves (since they cant send them in to MS) so a simple fix like a DVD drive wouldnt matter at all. Hell, people change the drive just to get a different brand drive as it is.

 

[Maynard]

why do u think gutswapping is a bigger issue?

 

[Derrville]

If your console is banned you can still continue to pirate games and play them off line correct?

 

[MrBill]

If your console is banned you can still continue to pirate games and play them off line correct?

Yes. That has been true for all past ban hammers.

 

[Virix]

If your console is banned you can still continue to pirate games and play them off line correct?

Yup, thats why Im not that worried about it and most people arent lol. People I know have one system for online and one that has been banned.

why do u think gutswapping is a bigger issue?

Its kinda lame. People go buy a 360, swap the guts (other than the flashed drive) and box it all back up and return it. Imagine a kid getting the 360 for Xmas, opening it, hooking it up and realizing that its banned from XBL because some fag returned a banned system. Shit sucks.

 

[leaffan]

Yup, thats why Im not that worried about it and most people arent lol. People I know have one system for online and one that has been banned.


Its kinda lame. People go buy a 360, swap the guts (other than the flashed drive) and box it all back up and return it. Imagine a kid getting the 360 for Xmas, opening it, hooking it up and realizing that its banned from XBL because some fag returned a banned system. Shit sucks.

Thats laziness on the company selling the 360 not microsofts fault.

 

[Virix]

I never said it was Microsoft's fault. I just said I think its a bigger problem because it seems to be happening much more with the ban hammer hitting so many people. Also, I cant really say its the company selling it either. You can easily remove/replace the stickers with a heat gun or a blow dryer that gets really hot. Its pretty much undetectable.

 

[Twigg4075]

BTW I would LOL hard if they did something like this for MW2. Have DRM loaded onto the disk and if a firmware check is done and not passed your console is flagged. What really would make my day is if they killed the dvd drive with the DRM like they do with some PC games.

Doing it on release day would bring the lulz.

That would be fucking hilarious.