NHL 12

[killgod]

dl the demo. from what ive read its just NHL 11 tweaked.

It's the next step in their physics as they promised a year ago, that much is evident.

I'm pretty into how the puck interacts in the game and how it reacts off the goalies. Far less magnetic/automated and far more realistic.

The slowed speed actually works out better IMO cause the days of lightning fast stick handling through traffic seem to be gone.

The polish of offline BAP, new stats engine....NHL 12 gonna be pretty damn good.

 

[wingsfan77]

I completely and utterly suck at this game. I;m playing the demo on rookie just to get the shooting and moves down. I'm going to be so far behind the curve vs. people online that have played the last few years.

Get the puck on net and crash for rebounds, that's what I do. I take a ton of shots from the point right along the ice and hope someone is in front for re-directions and tips.

 

[godspeed]

Thanks for the advice guys.

I played I think it was NHL 10 or NHL 09, whichever one was the first year of the shot stick and dekes and stuff. So I'm trying to get back into it.

You guys are right, I have scored on goals I didn't think i've had a chance on, so I just need to probably take more shots, but still have quality. The majority of my goals are one timers sliding the puck to the middle.

I'm not really mad at no breakaways, but I can't improve on my stick skills if I get no opportunities..lol. That's why I bumped it down to rookie and got a few.

I've also noticed holding that L2, the face up button? It help my shots alot I think. Or maybe it's just coincidence.

 

[Ravin]

It's the next step in their physics as they promised a year ago, that much is evident.

I'm pretty into how the puck interacts in the game and how it reacts off the goalies. Far less magnetic/automated and far more realistic.

The slowed speed actually works out better IMO cause the days of lightning fast stick handling through traffic seem to be gone.

The polish of offline BAP, new stats engine....NHL 12 gonna be pretty damn good.

One of the best things I saw was the puck interaction off the goalie. You take a slap shot, and rather then a lazy beam across the ice right onto the players stick where he can easily bang it into the open net, it bounces around off the ice. A shot off a blocker doens't slide on the ice.

 

[killgod]

One of the best things I saw was the puck interaction off the goalie. You take a slap shot, and rather then a lazy beam across the ice right onto the players stick where he can easily bang it into the open net, it bounces around off the ice. A shot off a blocker doens't slide on the ice.

You can really see it when you play goalie (can do in HUT mode).

I played 6 periods so far, in some ways it's harder but in other ways its easier to play it.

I like how you can beat goalies under their arms and such, some new good goalie animations available too. Working the posts was awkward but it's much smoother and you can trigger some new animations that I don't think you could in the past.

 

[Ravin]

Finding good shots. And everytime it looks like I'm about to get a good look, CPU is all over me. I can't get a single break away on pro or all star. That's why I went to rookie, to practice shooting, and moves out in the open. Basically it's scoring. I'm good on defense, poke checking, back checking, faceoffs,,,,I just can't score. I'm patient, do alot of passing in the zone, only to not get a good look (except I can on rookie and Pro).

Do the offense and defense play calling work well?

Any other general tips will be a huge help. Thanks.

I'm just going to say, don't get to pissed off. Many people have come through here with no ability to put the puck in the net and they can't do shit all with the puck. It is a learned skill and something that will take practice and not just demo stuff.

When I first started with NHL08, I spent probably about 30minutes a day in the practice mode learning the skill stick and how to shoot properly. Then add some defenders every once in awhile. It really helped when you don't have people always on you, and you can really learn some moves.

Offence and defence plays I would say don't worry about right now. Only because everyone is different. Somepeople play certain styles and it better suits them, so that is something you will figure out later on. I don't really look at it to much, but someone like leaffan actually sets his plays and all that.

NHL is one of those few games that if you play SIM / REAL hockey, you will do 100 times better. Move the puck around, and look for your chances. Use your blue line. You would be surprise how much that helps when you start letting point shots go. If you are only trying to put it in with your forwards, you are basically playing 5 on 3 hockey, so get it back to the blue line and cycle. Cycling the puck may be the best advice for helping you get better and get better chances. You'll learn the moves soon enough to dangle through a team, but in NHL12, those days seem to be gone.

 

[Ravin]

You can really see it when you play goalie (can do in HUT mode).

I played 6 periods so far, in some ways it's harder but in other ways its easier to play it.

I like how you can beat goalies under their arms and such, some new good goalie animations available too. Working the posts was awkward but it's much smoother and you can trigger some new animations that I don't think you could in the past.

You going to put in the 150 games this year for goalie legend? Jesus christ that just seems like that biggest feat from hell. With better AI in the defence though, and a slower game, I think it will help goalies drastically. I remember you always said, goalies were always fucked, because players can skate and dangle so fast, and goalies are like turtles out there. Do you get that feeling this year, or is it starting to get more 'on-par'?

 

[Ravin]

http://www.virtualsportsdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107824

Sign up guys. Need to get 5 more atleast on the Xbox side, and 7 on the PS3 side. Most tournaments are double elimination, so with 8 guys you'll play 2 - 4 games depending on how far. Not just NHL teams either, so get to have some fun using all the leagues in the game.

 

[killgod]

You going to put in the 150 games this year for goalie legend? Jesus christ that just seems like that biggest feat from hell. With better AI in the defence though, and a slower game, I think it will help goalies drastically. I remember you always said, goalies were always fucked, because players can skate and dangle so fast, and goalies are like turtles out there. Do you get that feeling this year, or is it starting to get more 'on-par'?

Gonna try.

The biggest help is when scrums happen in front of the net, in previous years any forward could morph his stick through the legs and dangle/shoot...not so much anymore. Felt like I had a chance to make a play on those.

I don't think it's on par yet though, user goalies online will still struggle overall.

 

[godspeed]

I'm just going to say, don't get to pissed off. Many people have come through here with no ability to put the puck in the net and they can't do shit all with the puck. It is a learned skill and something that will take practice and not just demo stuff.

When I first started with NHL08, I spent probably about 30minutes a day in the practice mode learning the skill stick and how to shoot properly. Then add some defenders every once in awhile. It really helped when you don't have people always on you, and you can really learn some moves.

Offence and defence plays I would say don't worry about right now. Only because everyone is different. Somepeople play certain styles and it better suits them, so that is something you will figure out later on. I don't really look at it to much, but someone like leaffan actually sets his plays and all that.

NHL is one of those few games that if you play SIM / REAL hockey, you will do 100 times better. Move the puck around, and look for your chances. Use your blue line. You would be surprise how much that helps when you start letting point shots go. If you are only trying to put it in with your forwards, you are basically playing 5 on 3 hockey, so get it back to the blue line and cycle. Cycling the puck may be the best advice for helping you get better and get better chances. You'll learn the moves soon enough to dangle through a team, but in NHL12, those days seem to be gone.

Ya, I definately like the challange. I appreciate a game that takes longer to learn the skill and video game ways of the sport. Going to keep going at it with the demo for the next few weeks. I don't want to rent NHL 11, because I heard the speeds are different and plays a little different, so I think I'm just going to keep playing the hell out of the demo.

 

[Ravin]

No real point in renting the game when NHL12 is out in 3 weeks. It will screw you up. Just keep playing the 1v1 and try different things. Lucky is Boston and Vancouver offer a lot on each team, so you can't go wrong.

 

[Rip]

I just got a one-timer snipe from Henrik Sedin and he did the animation where he goes down on one knee. It looked fricken awesome. Great addition.

Sidenote: Anyone familiar with the 2k series? Apparently they've produced great hockey games. Here's a video that really impressed me

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAWHp9hl2Fw[/ame]

 

[Ravin]

lol @ that video being top 5 goals. The only one that should be on that list was the last one.

2k hockey never really caught on here, as the EA game was just better. The skill stick made the EA game just shit on 2k's version. I remember with 2K, you had to hit weird button's to do shots, and it was more of an arcade feeling then anything. They didn't do to well in the market so that is why they took a year, now 2 years off from making hockey games.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

2K was good back in the mid-2000's, but EA took'em over and didn't stop. 2K isn't bad per se now, just not as good as EA's game.

 

[Rip]

http://www.virtualsportsdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107824

Sign up guys. Need to get 5 more atleast on the Xbox side, and 7 on the PS3 side. Most tournaments are double elimination, so with 8 guys you'll play 2 - 4 games depending on how far. Not just NHL teams either, so get to have some fun using all the leagues in the game.

NHL tourney? If you don't mind I'll try participating. If you guys have an EASHL team or OTP team i'll gladly join. I consider myself pretty good at the NHL games.

Gonna try.

The biggest help is when scrums happen in front of the net, in previous years any forward could morph his stick through the legs and dangle/shoot...not so much anymore. Felt like I had a chance to make a play on those.

I don't think it's on par yet though, user goalies online will still struggle overall.

I personally like usering the goalie. For about a month I would player lock the goalie on Ranked Versus and surprisingly did really well. 3-2, high pressure, and full attack. Most people don't know how to deal with the computer and try to play as if they're going against a user player. I'm kind of a whore though. I don't use the right stick so the goalie makes the saves on his own. I wish they had better user desperation saves though...

lol @ that video being top 5 goals. The only one that should be on that list was the last one.

2k hockey never really caught on here, as the EA game was just better. The skill stick made the EA game just shit on 2k's version. I remember with 2K, you had to hit weird button's to do shots, and it was more of an arcade feeling then anything. They didn't do to well in the market so that is why they took a year, now 2 years off from making hockey games.

Yeah, I was just curious. I'm a big 2K Football fan and always thought the series was great, same with their NBA series. Never played 2k so I was seeing if anyone was familiar.





Sidenote: Found an easy way to score. Goalies seem to have a problem with a certain, easy tactic lol.

 

[Ravin]

If you are interested in the tournament just go sign up in the forum and put what system you play for so I know.

 

[leaffan]

Xbox 360 store on Queen St. West. Apparantly its beside something called the lulu lemon store.

Anyways on the leafs board anyways the entire teams rating have been released. Not sure if people from other boards are going to make their way down there but since its the weekend and the info on where the game is is out people might make their way down there.

83C Lupul - 83C Connolly - 87C Kessel
84C Kulemin - 83C Grabovski - 83C MacArthur
83C Lombardi - 81C Bozak - 82C Armstrong
75C Boyce - 77B Kadri - 75C Crabb
81C Sjostrom
79C Brown
77C Dupuis
77C Orr
74C Rosehill
72C Frattin

85C Phaneuf - 82B Franson
84B- Schenn - 84C Komisarek
79B- Gunnarsson - 83C Liles
78B- Aulie
73B- Lashoff

82B- Reimer
81C Gustavsson


I think my 1v1 quest to rage as many canadiens fans as possible next year will become even easier.

 

[Rip]

ANA: 91 Getzlaf, 90 Perry
BUF: 88 Roy, 88 Vanek, 82 Leino
CAR: 90 Staal
CHI: 91 Toews, 89 Hossa
COL: 87 Stastny
DAL: 87 Eriksson, 87 Ribeiro
DET: 93 Datsyuk
LA: 88 Doughty, 85 Johnson, 82 Scuderi
MIN: 88 Koivu, 88 Heatley
MTL: 87 Cammalleri, 87 Plekanec, 84 Gomez
NJ: 91 Parise, 91 Kovalchuk
NYR: 89 Gaborik, 88 Richards
OTT: 84 Alfredsson
PHI: 87 Giroux, 87 Briere (also, JvR is between 82-84, can't remember exactly)
PIT: 94 Crosby, 91 Malkin
WSH: 93 Ovechkin, 90 Vokoun
WIN: 87 Byfuglien, 85 Antropov

Koivu is an 88 and so is Heatley. I'm pleased.

 

[Rip]

1.) Play someone who loves to hit you after the whistle is blown
2.) Stand in front of goalie
3.) Taunt him
4.) He charges
5.) Move out of the way right before he hits you
6.) ???
7.) Penalty Profit.

 

[wingsfan77]

I haven't gotten a penalty for hitting the goalie after the play yet....