NL Rookie of the Year

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

 

[NAHSTE]

No Ike Davis?

Anyway, Buster Posey.

If the Mets were still in the race I'd consider Davis, but he really hasn't kept up with his fellow rookies after his hot start. The homer total is nice but his other numbers aren't as good as the players nominated.

The only person who cares about this is Smuggs. That's because a braves player is involved, otherwise he wouldn't even start up the thread.

So far it's 8-8 between Posey and Heyward. Gee, why would anyone ever want to discuss this rookie class?

I was actually planning on doing a poll for every award, thank you very much.

 

[NAHSTE]

Here's why I say Heyward:

Heyward has hit .337 with a .439 on-base percentage in 53 games since the All-Star break, and in his past 21 games he’s hit a gaudy .437 with five homers, 15 RBIs and a .525 on-base perentage.

That torrid stretch boosted his season OBP to .399, fourth-highest in the NL behind Joey Votto (.422), Prince Fielder (.406) and Albert Pujols (.401), and ahead of Adrian Gonzalez (.393).

Behind Votto, Pujols and Fielder, and ahead of Gonzalez. Pretty good company for a 21-year old rook.

 

[SuperKevin]

Ian Desmond

 

[trojan49er]

Its pretty much a 2 man race b/w Posey and Heyward. The stats are really close, Heyward has a slight edge in OPS and an edge in OBP, but Posey has AVG and SLG locked up. Posey has the better power numbers when you take games played and ABs into account. Heyward strikes out almost twice as often but also walks more than twice as often. What I think has to be a deciding factor, though, is position. Look at any fantasy draft and they can tell you how many catchers give you the kind of production Posey does. By this time next year, he'll be mentioned up there with the cream of the crop of offensive catchers on the game today; hell, he might already be there. Had he played the whole year, his production would match that of Joe Mauer, the best offensive catcher in the game. I think Posey has a slight edge.

 

[NAHSTE]

Found this on MLB.com:

Granted this doesn't include Posey, but that's because Posey was in the minors while Heyward was winning us games in April and May.

 

[Tailback U]

I haven't seen much of Heyward and obviously I'm biased, but if you haven't seen Posey play then you really don't know how good he is behind the plate.

He's been just as impressive, if not more, behind the plate than at the plate. Without him, the Giants aren't where they are right now. Not even close. Getting rid of Molina and bringing up Posey was huge, and you can't really understand how much of a difference it's made unless if you've watched the Giants all season.

But, I am assuming the same can be said for Heyward? I really don't know since I rarely get to watch Atlanta.

 

[BroncoBlue]

Buster Posey got to play at Coors Field more, so by default J-Hey wins!

/Sarcasm

Fuck it, if the sports writers and MLB find a way to screw Ubaldo and Cargo (like they did Tulo and Holiday in 2007) then I doubt they find a way to to get the ROY to the guy that deserves it the most.... AKA Buster Posey!

Call it what you will but it really comes down to the fact that Posey gets his most important hits while everyone on the east coast is asleep....

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[BroncoBlue]

I'm not surprised at the lack of interest as much as I'm surprised that nahste and I are the only ones to vote Heyward. Are you fucking kidding me? Have you seen this kid? I'm a Phils fan for crying out loud and I think that this is a no-brainer.

Really are you fucking kidding me? Have you actually stayed up past 11pm EST more than once to watch Buster Posey... I'm a Rox fan and rooting for him!

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[Blade]

If the Mets were still in the race I'd consider Davis, but he really hasn't kept up with his fellow rookies after his hot start. The homer total is nice but his other numbers aren't as good as the players nominated.



So far it's 8-8 between Posey and Heyward. Gee, why would anyone ever want to discuss this rookie class?

I was actually planning on doing a poll for every award, thank you very much.

Gee........where are the polls for all the other awards? It's been what 8 days?

 

[Primetime]

.402 OBP. End of story.

 

[Goober]

Johnny Venters has been the best reliever in the Braves bullpen, should be ROY. But he's a Set-up man, so whatever.

Jason Heyward because he's on a playoff club, has put up good numbers, and has been a top 3 position player for the Braves this year.

Venters isn't even the best rookie reliever fucktard. Shut the fuck up.

 

[NAHSTE]

Gee........where are the polls for all the other awards? It's been what 8 days?

I decided with 2 weeks left in the season, might as well wait. Why do an MVP poll right now when Tulo is still hitting 2 HRs a day? They're coming soon though. I'm gonna redo this one as well once we have the full picture. I just wanted to hype up this race early because I think Posey and Heyward are two future HOFers and the rest of the rookie class has been great also. Good time to be a baseball fan.

 

[SethMode]

Really are you fucking kidding me? Have you actually stayed up past 11pm EST more than once to watch Buster Posey... I'm a Rox fan and rooting for him!

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Give me a break. As predicted, BroncoBlue shows up when the Rockies are making a late season charge!

Anyway, having watched BOTH quite a bit, I like both, but I still think that Heyward is the clear winner. He looks better and more polished than half of the lineup on the Phillies, and the Phillies are considered one of the better hitting teams in MLB. And he's a rookie. It's a scary time to be a fan of another NL East team (thankfully, the Phils are going to the World Series for the third time in a row this year )

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Ill take Posey.

Not enough love for Jamie Garcia, tho.

 

[Archer]

What isin't impressive about Posey? [for people who have actually watched him]

He hits for power, drives runs in and hits for average all while catching for one of the best/toughest staffs in the NL.

He stepped in at a massively important position and is a top 3 reason for the Giants probably winning the West or at least grabbing a wildcard spot.

 

[SethMode]

What isin't impressive about Posey? [for people who have actually watched him]

He hits for power, drives runs in and hits for average all while catching for one of the best/toughest staffs in the NL.

He stepped in at a massively important position and is a top 3 reason for the Giants probably winning the West or at least grabbing a wildcard spot.

Nothing isn't impressive about Posey. I just personally like Heyward better. It's not a wide margin, but that's my opinion.

 

[FedEx227]

Yeah it's not a slight on either to chose one of the other guys, both are exceptional players. Statistically though I think Heyward has put together a better year.

 

[NAHSTE]

What isin't impressive about Posey? [for people who have actually watched him]

He hits for power, drives runs in and hits for average all while catching for one of the best/toughest staffs in the NL.

He stepped in at a massively important position and is a top 3 reason for the Giants probably winning the West or at least grabbing a wildcard spot.

Posey would be a unanimous pick any other year. Nothing is unimpressive about him.

But Heyward is 4th in the entire league in OBP and is hitting .360 over his last 25 games. Edit- Apparently his walk total is the third-highest ever for a 21-year old or younger. He played through a wrist injury and lost 30 points on his average before the break. If he would have hit the DL (or been given 2 months to get acclimated in the minors like Posey) his avg. would be touching .310, right around Posey's .325. But BA is an overrated statistic anyway.

Posey's 10 points higher, but he is a middle of the order hitter. Heyward hits in the 2-hole and we're asking him to move runners and get on base. He sacrifice bunted yesterday with 2-runners on. For what we're asking him to do, he's done as well as a rookie could possibly do.

He has a .30 pt. edge over Posey in on-base pct. and is a big reason why the Braves lead the majors in team OBP.

You also have to give credit to Heyward for doing it since opening day, his incredible base-running (Jeter/Pujols level) and defense, and all the late inning RBIs he's gotten us (at least 5 game winning hits from what I can remember). He's arguably our team MVP.*

* - I know you could say the same for Posey and the Giants. That's what makes this such a good race.

 

[chazmaniandevil]

Posey, but not by a lot