Official NCAA 12! Thread

[Steel Mamba]

You know it's illegal for a WR to go in motion and seal a DE...right? You can't crack block a down defender (lineman). In the NFL (yes, I know this is NCAA) you can't even go in motion and block a defender without coming to a stop (No WHAM blocks, popular in the early 90s).

But yes, WR's are ineffective in genearl unless you get the cut block to trigger.

Double teams are fine when they fire. They are pretty dependent on ratings, not completely, and you can get that drive animation where 2 lineman will move the DT 3 or 4 yards. With that said, they don't usually happen to the nose tackle, usually because the LB "shows blitz" and has to be picked up by the guard. It normally will fire against a 3 or 5 tech if you run Power-O, Iso or Inside zone. Normally it will work against an DE if you run stretch (especially if you lineup with a double TE set.

Double teams aren't that common, however, chip blocks are and those aren't in existance in EA football.

My bad, I didn't mean seal off the DE. What I'm talking about is securing the outside, blocking a DB or LB who may be in pursuit. Of course I don't expect a WR to be knocking anyone down, I just want them to get a hand on someone. Pick a guy and impede him a bit. Instead, like I've said they'll just roam around and not get a hand on anyone. When they don't touch or impede anyone, almost running in circles, that's something broken with their blocking assignment logic.

I'm not saying it'll happen every time, it doesn't. But, I've already noticed it on the demo, and I know this happened a lot on both Madden and NCAA 11.

I agree that doubles aren't very common, but like you mentioned chip blocks are, and that's not in there either. They need chip blocks for more realistic double situations and more realistic scheming. For example, chipping a great pass rusher then passing him on.

I just got done playing some APF and one particular play stood out. I'm running a 3-4 with Jack Lambert at ILB, my other ILB spot is a generic. The computer goes to run up the gut and 2 guards immediately went after Lambert, doubled him, pushed him back, and neither left until the back was free. Essentially creating a great gap for the runner, and taking the most important defender completely out of the play.

I've yet to see anything like that happen on NCAA. In NCAA when the double comes it's very brief, and I haven't seen it happen at the 2nd level like that. Part of the problem is that there's just not enough fluidity or animations in the game. The players move around too erratically and often have trouble engaging in the canned animations.

 

[Maynard]

sold

i like how in the game they show off the new features. the new college atmosphere ect ect...same shit they been saying for years.

i also love the new tacked on cut scenes for the pre game. It all feels so lifeless.

the gameplay itself was pretty much the same as always...which is weak.
i have zero interest in this game. waiting out that contract is no longer a big deal. sports games are so bottom of the barrel these days

 

[spiker]

sold

I hate EA.

/smh

 

[Sharkweather]

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[Steel Mamba]

i like how in the game they show off the new features. the new college atmosphere ect ect...same shit they been saying for years.

i also love the new tacked on cut scenes for the pre game. It all feels so lifeless.

the gameplay itself was pretty much the same as always...which is weak.
i have zero interest in this game. waiting out that contract is no longer a big deal. sports games are so bottom of the barrel these days

I think the mainstream game industry in general has kinda tanked a bit. Everyone is trying to appease too many 12 year olds nowadays.

 

[Survivor]

I think the mainstream game industry in general has kinda tanked a bit. Everyone is trying to appease too many 12 year olds nowadays.

Can you blame them? Parents are the ones willing to pay out the yazzoo to make their spoiled brats happy, and kids wouldnt know a quality game if it bit them in the ass. We are too hard to please.

 

[Maynard]

I think the mainstream game industry in general has kinda tanked a bit. Everyone is trying to appease too many 12 year olds nowadays.

i agree. the entire industry is about making the next COD4 that they can copy and paste for years and continue to profit without investing in development. I guess they took their cue from madden....lol

 

[Ravin]

This is why sports games need to take a year off. I know we all have got so use to every year our next football, baseball, hockey, etc game comes out, but in some regards, maybe that extra year would help and give them time to work on something else. The thing is, as I said, we have all got use to it, so the game they put out right before taking a 2 year break would need to be great in order to do so, or fans would get pissed.

But you could still patch the game during the time, and send out a massive roster update/patch at the start of the new season to get the missed years rosters in the game. Thing is, it isn't about making a great game, it is about making money. And why not sell 1 million games one year, and turn around and sell 1million games a year after. You miss that entire year of profit. So fuck, to make them happy, make the roster update like $15.99 and I'm sure people will get it.

I guess this is why I stopped getting so critical of the games I play because there is no point. Either I play or I don't. If I don't, I miss the enjoyment of the games I do like, which is a big reason now why I am buying a football game because I want a new one and missed playing football. Sure there are flaws, but if you get to critical of it, you may be taking it a little to seriously.

 

[dave]

sold

For all the people who laugh at this, I remember all the posters who go nuts over tattoos and dreads in the NBA games.

 

[cf24]

For all the people who laugh at this, I remember all the posters who go nuts over tattoos and dreads in the NBA games.

Yea..and were still only allowed to get either the letter W or a swirling vortex tattooed on our players neck.

Grass looks nice in replays, but it's non-existent in actual game play.
Fuck Trent Richardson.
I will have fun with this game.

 

[DoubleDeuce]

Trent Richardson has the same break tackle rating as Denard Robinson.

Something isn't right there

 

[ryne candy]

I'm going to get it but most likely wait a month out after release. By then a good set of rosters, sliders, and even a sale price will be out. If Amazon comes out of nowhere and offers $20 credit and free release date delivery, I will get it on the 12th.

 

[Point Blank]

Jayron Hosley imp:

 

[Ravin]

http://kotaku.com/5805720/

Just wondering if this is true or not. Was late to this thread and going back 50+ pages is a bitch.

 

[Bear Pand]

http://kotaku.com/5805720/

Just wondering if this is true or not. Was late to this thread and going back 50+ pages is a bitch.

Yes it is true. EA decided to make the new online dynasty features this year paid DLC. They also decided to withhold some uniforms for the game and make it a gamestop pre-order bonus.

Pretty standard operating procedure for them, they are really obnoxious when it comes to DLC with their football games. People will buy anyway though so EA wins.

 

[Ravin]

Yes it is true. EA decided to make the new online dynasty features this year paid DLC. They also decided to withhold some uniforms for the game and make it a gamestop pre-order bonus.

Pretty standard operating procedure for them, they are really obnoxious when it comes to DLC with their football games. People will buy anyway though so EA wins.

Yeah, figured as much. It's one time of $3, so honestly, nothing to break your balls about. Hell I pay that and more in taxes. Got 300 points available that have sat in my account for years, so finally use them. I never buy anything on DLC anyway.

 

[Bear Pand]

The one thing that amazes me about NCAA/Madden is how you'll see so many impressions that start with: "this demo is average/bad/same old same old" and end with "don't get me wrong I'm still gonna go buy it."

They really got it made with those exclusive licenses. Like at this point people are conditioned to settle for a mediocre game every year.

I saw one guy who said "I don't like the gameplay but I'm just buying it for coaching carousel and custom playbooks." Proof EA doesn't need to work on gameplay and instead just add more back of the box features.

 

[FirstTimer]

i like how in the game they show off the new features. the new college atmosphere ect ect...same shit they been saying for years.

i also love the new tacked on cut scenes for the pre game. It all feels so lifeless.

the gameplay itself was pretty much the same as always...which is weak.
i have zero interest in this game. waiting out that contract is no longer a big deal. sports games are so bottom of the barrel these days

I've said it as far back as MM but: the advent and rise of online gaming killed EA football for anyone who is interested in sim style football.

Madden 2002's sim engine is still better than anything we have seen since.

 

[Steel Mamba]

This is why sports games need to take a year off. I know we all have got so use to every year our next football, baseball, hockey, etc game comes out, but in some regards, maybe that extra year would help and give them time to work on something else. The thing is, as I said, we have all got use to it, so the game they put out right before taking a 2 year break would need to be great in order to do so, or fans would get pissed.

But you could still patch the game during the time, and send out a massive roster update/patch at the start of the new season to get the missed years rosters in the game. Thing is, it isn't about making a great game, it is about making money. And why not sell 1 million games one year, and turn around and sell 1million games a year after. You miss that entire year of profit. So fuck, to make them happy, make the roster update like $15.99 and I'm sure people will get it.

I guess this is why I stopped getting so critical of the games I play because there is no point. Either I play or I don't. If I don't, I miss the enjoyment of the games I do like, which is a big reason now why I am buying a football game because I want a new one and missed playing football. Sure there are flaws, but if you get to critical of it, you may be taking it a little to seriously.

Taking a year off wouldn't give them extra time. They've been working on this game for five years now. That's the way you have to look at it, NCAA 12 has 5 years worth of development time into it. Once a title is released, they take a couple months off and get back to work on the next release. So, if this is still the same core engine, then 5 years is plenty time to produce a solid product.

 

[Steel Mamba]

The one thing that amazes me about NCAA/Madden is how you'll see so many impressions that start with: "this demo is average/bad/same old same old" and end with "don't get me wrong I'm still gonna go buy it."

They really got it made with those exclusive licenses. Like at this point people are conditioned to settle for a mediocre game every year.

I saw one guy who said "I don't like the gameplay but I'm just buying it for coaching carousel and custom playbooks." Proof EA doesn't need to work on gameplay and instead just add more back of the box features.

True, there's no pressure on them to do anything big. But, even before there wasn't competition it was the same. People would buy Madden regardless. That's why EA is in the position they are now. Personally I still have APF to go to, so if NCAA sucks I'm fine. APF lobbies are still active, and it may be slightly generic, but with so many different ways to make a team, and schemes to play, it still hasn't gotten old.