Official New York Giants Forum Thread

[CrimsonGhost56]

turns out the pectoral injury on smith was a little worse then first thought :facepalm:

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- The Giants will have to get by for the foreseeable future without their top possession receiver, Steve Smith.

On Friday, Smith, one of the NFL's best third-down receivers with 11 of his 47 catches coming in that situation, was officially ruled out of Sunday's game vs. Dallas (1-7), with what coach Tom Coughlin described as a partially torn pectoral muscle.

Mario Manningham, sporting the Giants' biggest per-catch average at 15.4 yards, will replace Smith at the split end. Second-year, big-play star Hakeem Nicks, the NFL's top-scoring wide receiver with nine touchdowns, will remain at flanker.

Second-year player Ramses Barden and undrafted rookie Duke Calhoun will see time in the multiple-receiver sets.

Coughlin said Smith will be on a "week-to-week" status, but indicated he won't plot a definitive timetable for his return until he begins rehabilitation. Coughlin said no surgery will be necessary.

"It's a partial pec and he just has to rehab," Coughlin said. "But whatever the basis of it is, he has to go through a process of healing, so I'm not sure exactly how long."

The injury occurred during drills Thursday when Smith was reaching for a pass.

Moving Manningham into Smith's spot could lead to more double-coverage for Nicks, an athletic and shifty weapon in the open field. But adjusting to defenses won't be the only pressure the 2009 first-round draft choice will have felt this week.

His alma mater, the University of North Carolina, is under NCAA investigation, and the school listed his name among five former Tar Heels who may have given some of the 13 currrent players under scrutiny $3,300 worth of "impermissible gifts of cash and jewelry and impermissible assistance" with transportation after the 2008 season.

"I'm not angry at all," Nicks said, when asked his thoughts on North Carolina bringing his name into the investigation. "That's college. I'm in the NFL now, and I'm focusing on football."

The investigation also involves improper conduct from a tutor and improper relationships with agents. But the school has stated that Nicks is not suspected of having any "inappropriate relationships with agents, prospective agents, or runners."

"I've got a game this week," Nicks said as he shook his head to all further questions about the investigation, and proceeded to talk about the Cowboys, and Manningham's upside for this weekend.

"We know he's going to step up. We pretty much all know each other's routes, so it shouldn't be a problem."

Manningham, third on the team with 25 catches for 385 yards and three touchdowns, said he looked forward to an increased role.

"I've just got to play football," he said, "stick to what I do and don't try to make the game harder than it is. The good thing is, we know Dallas and we know what they're going to run."

The Giants might be using that starting group for a while. At least two weeks, according to Coughlin.

"They say a limited amount of time, but not necessarily right away or this week or next week," Coughlin said. "I won't know until (Smith) starts rehabbing. He hasn't had much swelling or discomfort, so a lot of it in the beginning will probably be preventative to make sure there's no further injury, and then to strengthen and go forward."

 

[EmpireWF]

 

[Dan The Man]

Fucked up. Not so much worried about this game but going into Philly is gonna be tough.

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

:facepalm:

offensive line played like shit. eli's bonehead plays. defense got zero pressure. dez raped the secondary. shitty shitty game. better fix this shit up by next week

 

[EmpireWF]

Scared about Desean Jackson

OLine issues have me worried too. Diehl is going to miss a few more games and O'Hara cannot be counted on. That Boothe holding call was a killer.

Where did the pass rush go?

ahhhhhh, next week can't get here soon enough....fuck a sunday night game!

 

[StealthShot]

JETS 7-2

 

[strahanfan92]

Barden on crutches + in walking boot. Says he believes x-rays were negative but wasn't told for sure. Stay tuned on this one. #nyg 3 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter

So why did we put Victor Cruz on IR?

 

[Dan The Man]

THE RETURN OF SINORICE MOSS COMING SOON

 

[EmpireWF]

How about signing another OLman, depth is our pal

 

[strahanfan92]

THE RETURN OF SINORICE MOSS COMING SOON

Shoot me in the fucking face.


D-Line and secondary were absolutely terrible today.

Didn't seem like we blitzed a lot either.

Just a terrible game.

 

[Dan The Man]

I'm legit worried about the pass rush. I felt like when Kiwi went down we were only gonna keep it going for so long before it started to fade. Hope I'm wrong.

Sidenote: If Antrel Rolle plays like he did today next week, DeSean Jackson's midget ass is gonna go for 200 yards.

 

[strahanfan92]

Kenny Phillips was invisible aswell. And I pray to god we don't play a premier wideout in the playoffs with the way Terrell covered today.

 

[ram29jackson]

the Giants will be fine

 

[EmpireWF]

I remember seeing something about this awhile back at BBI, but it's weird. The 2007 season (up to this point) has been eerily similar to what we've seen so far in 2010.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/2007.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/2010.htm

Giants start the season slow (0-2 in 07, 1-2 in 10) before breaking off significant winning streaks (6 games in 07, 5 in 10)...before losing at home to Dallas (lost 20-31 in 2007, lost 20-33 in 2010).

Difference is Giants only had 2 division games left after the second Dallas loss in 07. This season, there are 4 games left with Philly and Washington.

In 2007, the Giants ended up going 4-3 to close the season 10-6. Of course, they fought their asses off in week 17 and lost a close game to the 16-0 Patriots. The rest is history.

In 2010, the Giants are 6-3 with seven games left.

 

[strahanfan92]

I don't understand why both the Eagles and Giants have played 2 games against one division opponent before playing any against the other 2 division opponents.

 

[strahanfan92]

Oh yeah, and arguably the most frustrating thing for me that game. Seeing Brandon Jacobs get the ball on 4th and 1. He is to big and slow to be getting the ball in that situation. By the time his slow ass gets to the line the o-line leverage is completely gone.

People think that big dude = 3rd and 4th and 1 back. I couldn't disagree more. I'd rather have Bradshaw in there any day of the week, plus that little mofo will fight for that yard if he doesn't get it on first contact.

 

[jeffx]

Between this and watching the Knicks make Kevin Love look like Moses Malone, my weekend totally sucked.

 

[Champ]

Horrible defensive gameplan by Fewell. Rush 4 and give Kitna all day to pass. I don't even recall a pass blitz.

 

[DJ Rhude]

Between this and watching the Knicks make Kevin Love look like Moses Malone, my weekend totally sucked.

For real......terrible sports weekend

 

[jeffx]

Giants continue to make the same stupid mistakes over and over. And the offensive line is in shambles.