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[Champ]

I was more pissed about us tendering Sinorce then CC Brown.

 

[DJ Rhude]

lol, I missed that....we actually tendered Moss????

 

[Champ]

Its weird. It says we original pick tendered him but he will be making more than his original pick.

 

[Champ]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MooMhKt-wKw&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- CJ Spiller Clemson[/ame]

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

Jim Sorgi placed on IR, our for the year :facepalm:

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- The New York Giants placed quarterback Jim Sorgi and wide receiver Sinorice Moss on injured reserve, effectively ending the 2010 season for both players.

The Giants now will look for a veteran backup quarterback and see who is released this week when teams cut their rosters down to 53 by Saturday. They have young and inexperienced quarterbacks Rhett Bomar and Dominic Randolph behind Eli Manning.

Sorgi tore the capsule in his right throwing shoulder when he was hit after a touchdown pass on Aug. 16 against the Jets. The initial prognosis was that he would be out two to three weeks, but Sorgi said Monday that his most recent visit with doctors revealed that his shoulder wasn't improving as fast as they had hoped.

Sorgi had hoped to practice Monday and play in Thursday's preseason finale against the New England Patriots, but he still wasn't able to throw. Sorgi said he will consider surgery if the shoulder isn't healed in a month or so.

Head coach Tom Coughlin said he thinks Sorgi will need surgery on his shoulder.

"I'd like him to get healed and get himself healthy so that may require that," Coughlin said.

Moss underwent surgery Tuesday morning to repair a sports hernia. He has been out for much of the preseason with a groin injury. He went to Philadelphia on Monday to have it examined, and stayed there for the surgery.

The fifth-year wide receiver was hoping to gain some playing time this season by winning the punt-returning job. But Moss, who has played in only 37 games in his previous four seasons, couldn't stay healthy.

"All I know is that the surgery and the rehab and those types of things, when would the athlete be able to return to full speed action and that type of thing ... it's very very difficult to operate like that," Coughlin said.

The Giants also placed rookie linebacker Adrian Tracy on IR. Tracy, the team's sixth-round pick, underwent surgery to repair ligament damage he suffered after dislocating his elbow against the Ravens on Saturday in Baltimore.

Offensive lineman Kevin Boothe was moved from the physically unable to perform list to the reserve-physically unable to perform list with a pectoral injury. That will keep Boothe out for at least the first six weeks of the season.

The Giants also released wide receiver Nyan Boateng to reduce their roster to 75 for Tuesday's deadline.

 

[ram29jackson]

why put him in a game in the first place? he should be practicing what he does all year= hold a clip board for a MANNING and collect a paycheck.....wait?...now all he has to do is collect a paycheck

 

[jeffx]

Has Sinorice Moss EVER made a play for the Giants? Why not cut his ass already?

I'm getting nervous about the season. Watching that Ravens game was deja vu all over again - too many cats banged-up, holes in the defense, shaky O-line and no short-yardage game.

 

[jeffx]

No work release for Plaxico;

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-burress-weaponscharge

 

[DJ Rhude]

in 2 days we find out if the preseason performance was real cause for concern

We already have two players in Jacobs and Grant upset about losing their starting jobs

Fine way to start

 

[jeffx]

8-8 or 7-9, Rhu. I'm not optimistic about the season.

 

[Anthony]

NY Times Article on the Giants running game.

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — After last season, the Giants’ running backs had scar tissue, both visible and unseen. The team’s normally strong rushing attack slowed because of sore knees and ankles. That, in turn, wounded the Giants’ pride.

“We’ve got to find a way to get it done this year,” guard Rich Seubert said.

This season, the Giants will look to re-establish their rushing offense, which has been a hallmark of the franchise. Their first opportunity to reassert themselves on the ground will come against the Carolina Panthers on Sunday in the season opener


Still, there are lingering questions about whether the Giants will find their footing.

In the off-season, the starter Ahmad Bradshaw had surgery on his feet and right ankle, and the backup Brandon Jacobs had a torn meniscus in his right knee cleaned up.

The offensive line has been banged up, and the five starters did not play together in a preseason game.

“It’s been a point of emphasis since forever,” Coach Tom Coughlin said of running the ball. “It certainly was in the off-season, and it certainly was in training camp, too.”

Last season, just a year after finishing first in the N.F.L. in rushing, the Giants ranked 17th, averaging 114.8 yards a game. For the first time since 2001, they did not have a running back rush for 1,000 yards.

“As we look at it, our run game wasn’t supposed to be where it was last year,” Bradshaw said. “Everybody’s dedicated to the run even more than ever just to get back to that. Coming in last year and not being able to do that, it’s tough on everybody.”

However, there are complicating factors. Jacobs expressed displeasure with his role after the final preseason game, though he later amended his comments, saying he was happy. He had a testy encounter with reporters on Wednesday that underscored the unsettled backfield dynamic.

On Thursday, Kevin Gilbride, the offensive coordinator, suggested that Bradshaw’s and Jacobs’s roles were not as clearly defined as they might have previously seemed.

“We haven’t really solidified it; it’s much more of a concern with all of you than us,” Gilbride said to a group of reporters. “They’ve all been taking their turns, in and out, for whatever reason. So we’ll just play it as it goes, who’s got the hot hand, based on who’s playing well, based on what we’re doing, what the defenses are doing.”

Since returning from his off-season surgery, Bradshaw has looked sharp. He said his feet and ankle felt fine, and there has been no evidence of hesitancy. Bradshaw, who is lighter than the bruising Jacobs, is a shiftier runner who relies on his ability to make quick cuts.

“It gives us an extra boost,” Bradshaw said of their contrasting styles. “I tell him all the time we’re going to do this together. I can’t do it without him.”

In the preseason, the offensive linemen were dealing with injuries of their own. Center Shaun O’Hara, who has heel tendinitis and a swollen left ankle, participated in a full practice Thursday for the first time this week, making the unit, at least temporarily, whole again.

The Giants have had one of the most cohesive lines in the N.F.L., but that was not so in the preseason, with all but left tackle David Diehl missing at least a game. The starters played down the importance of working together during the preseason.

“I hope it’s not an issue,” O’Hara said. “You want to look at how many games we’ve played together, a preseason game is like a bug on a windshield. I don’t think anybody’s worried about that.”

Last season, the Giants relied on the arm of Eli Manning, who posted career highs in yards passing, 4,021; touchdown passes, 27; and pass rating, 93.1. For now, there are equal parts of optimism and uncertainty for the Giants’ offense.

“We’re all excited,” O’Hara said. “It’s a new season and an opportunity for us to establish a new identity for 2010.”

They hope their new identity resembles their old identity — founded on running the ball.

EXTRA POINTS

The Giants elected their captains on offense (Eli Manning), defense (Justin Tuck) and special teams (Chase Blackburn). Tom Coughlin will name two additional game captains on a weekly basis. ... Cornerback Aaron Ross, who has been sidelined with a torn plantar fascia in his right foot, played in a scrimmage.

 

[DJ Rhude]

Like every year I try to stay confident, but I can't ignore the lingering issues

Is Phillips really back, or will we just see flashes this year? And will that knee hold up and he stays on the field?

Are we going to see that strong running game again?

Is the offensive line, which was so durable in the past, going to hold up this year?

Can Eli duplicate last season?

Can Ross stay on the field?

How good is our linebacking core going to be?

Is the defensive line going to play up to it's talent on paper?

If the answers turn out to be yes for most of those questions we should be in good shape

 

[jms493]

Like every year I try to stay confident, but I can't ignore the lingering issues

Is Phillips really back, or will we just see flashes this year? And will that knee hold up and he stays on the field?

Are we going to see that strong running game again?

Is the offensive line, which was so durable in the past, going to hold up this year?

Can Eli duplicate last season?

Can Ross stay on the field?

How good is our linebacking core going to be?

Is the defensive line going to play up to it's talent on paper?

If the answers turn out to be yes for most of those questions we should be in good shape

I want Eli to have to throw less. Hopefully we will have a new 3 headed monster. 1 game at a time but once again....our defense will probably let us down.

 

[jeffx]

2010 Schedule:

9/12 - PANTHERS
9/19 - @ Colts
9/26 - TITANS
10/3 - BEARS
10/10 - @ Texans
10/17 - LIONS
10/25 - @ Cowboys
10/31 - BYE
11/7 - @ Seahawks
11/14 - COWBOYS
11/21 - @ Eagles
11/28 - JAGUARS
12/5 - REDSKINS
12/12 - @ Vikings
12/19 - EAGLES
12/26 - @ Packers
1/2 - @ Redskins

 

[strahanfan92]

I also am not confident in this season, 7-9 - 9-7 sounds about right, nothing better nothing worst. Two many q's like Rhude pointed out.

 

[Champ]

I want Eli to have to throw less. Hopefully we will have a new 3 headed monster. 1 game at a time but once again....our defense will probably let us down.

I want Eli to throw 51 TDs

 

[EmpireWF]

Ross and Dillard are not playing Sunday.

I believe everyone else is.

 

[Anthony]

Aaron Ross is made out of balsa wood.

 

[Dan The Man]

Ross lives on the injury report.

 

[Rayman]

I want Eli to have to throw less. Hopefully we will have a new 3 headed monster. 1 game at a time but once again....our defense will probably let us down.

This guy gets it. Your team doesn't succeed if Eli needs to throw the ball as much as he did last year. It's simply not built for it.

He showed great improvement in many areas, but if he approaches those kinds of numbers again, I'd bet the Giants are a .500 team again.