Official Washington Redskins Forum Thread

[manchild24]

i just really liked Portis, thought he was great addition to the team. I understand the move just as a fan sad to see him go

 

[ThomasTomasz]

i just really liked Portis, thought he was great addition to the team. I understand the move just as a fan sad to see him go

I think most people will think this way. Anyone who knows a little bit about football knows he isn't a featured back anymore, and he wasn't going to be worth what he was getting paid.

For what he's done for this franchise, most importantly the 2005 season and him basically carrying this team on his back then, he deserves our gratitude and thanks. Despite what happened near the end, you can't look down on Portis.

 

[SuperKevin]

pretty quite until this CBA gets done. m still really hoping for McNabb to stay, three guys/Positions I like Georgia WR A.J. Green,Alabama WR Julio Jones, North Carolina DE Robert Quinn, Colorado LT Nate Solder/USC OT Tyron Smith

I*d be happy with any of these guys with our pick at 10

I don't get why you'd get Solder or Smith after drafting Trent Williams and trading for Jamaal Brown last year.

Personally I think Julio Jones is going to be the pick now

 

[Aso]

What about the Redskins going CB? I think they definitely need some help there.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I don't get why you'd get Solder or Smith after drafting Trent Williams and trading for Jamaal Brown last year.

Personally I think Julio Jones is going to be the pick now

Jammal Brown still has to sign an extension I think. It took him a while to get his stamina back, but I would bring him back so the Redskins only need to focus on upgrading the interior line.

If the Redskins don't decide that they want to bring back Moss, I see Jones being the pick. I could also see them trading down, or going for a pass-rusher or defensive line help.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

What about the Redskins going CB? I think they definitely need some help there.

Well, the secondary, as it is right now, has DeAngelo Hall, LaRon Landry, Kareem Moore, Kevin Barnes under contract. Carlos Rogers and Philip Buchanon have to be tendered contracts. The Redskins could re-sign Rogers, or go after another free agent CB.

Given the needs elsewhere, I'm not sure they will spend a high pick on the secondary, especially after the attention there in recent years.

 

[tigstah]

the skins need help in all areas.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Well, I'm sure most of you have heard, but the bloodletting has begun. Clinton Portis, Andre Carter and Derrick Dockery have all been released over the past couple days.

I could care less about Clinton Portis- it would be nice to see him on a team in a small role, but he's not a featured back anymore and injuries have hurt his stock.

Carter could still be an above average pass-rusher in a 4-3 scheme, and should see plenty of attention on the free agent market. Dockery could also be a starter in the league for someone at left guard- he's still one of the better run blockers out there.

Also, the Redskins have met with former Texans receiver Andre Davis- he did miss all of last season with injury.

 

[manchild24]

Redskins agreed to terms with FS O.J. Atogwe on a five-year, $26 million contract.
Among NFL defensive backs, Atogwe's 44 turnovers accounted for rank third in the league over the past five seasons, and second in the NFC. (Only Ed Reed and Charles Woodson have more.) Also familiar with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett's system from their time together in St. Louis, the 30-year-old Atogwe will fit in nicely in D.C. He'll play free safety, with LaRon Landry manning the strong side and continuing to focus on "the box."

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Just posting up what I did in the other thread specifically for this signing, just in case people miss it. The more I think about this signing though, the more I like it. I wasn't much for it when he made his visit.

In the end, I like the signing although its a pretty hefty pricetag. The Redskins get a safety who is great in coverage and is a ballhawk. That meshes very well with LaRon Landry, who is a guy who plays much better "in the box" as an extra linebacker at times.

Both players can play the others role, but they just aren't as effective by it. By having two superior safeties, who are each in their own comfort zone, that is a trickle-down effect that will help improve the entire defense.

It will now be interesting to see how the Redskins will approach the second corner spot. Carlos Rogers could be re-signed, or we could draft a corner. Re-signing Rogers probably took a hit, however.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Figured it was time to bump this after our first round selection.

For those wondering, the Redskins were able to trade down from the 10th spot- made easier after the Cowboys selected OT Tyron Smith- to the 16th spot, and acquire Jacksonville's second round pick, leaving the Redskins with pick 9 and 17 in the second round.

With the 16th pick, we selected DE Ryan Kerrigan out of Purdue. He will move to OLB in the 3-4 defense, but other than that, I know little about him. Any thoughts on the pick?

The second round will also be very interesting, as the Redskins have a couple different positions to look at- QB, WR, OG, OT and nose tackle are all possibilities. I think NT is the only position I would guarantee a selection, and the Redskins could also trade down again as well. It will be a very interesting day tomorrow.

 

[Champ]

There are Redskins fans on VSN?

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Did some reading on Kerrigan at a couple places, and I thought Jason Reid's article at the Post summed everything up about him. A playmaker who can make things happen, who is expected to contribute immediately and who has a great attitude and knows how to play the game. It was a smart pickup, and it was great to also get a second round pick out of the deal. He and Orakpo have the potential to be a great bookend duo of pass-rushers.

If we get a nose tackle with one of our second round picks, I will be extremely happy with this draft. That is our biggest need right now right alongside the offensive line.

 

[manchild24]

I think we go with best available no matter what position. Maybe Torrey Smith falls, who knows. I'll be watching tonight

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Just a quick recap of the draft after a busy weekend- I am still reading up on some of the later picks. At the top, we fulfilled the need for a pass rusher, as well as a potential nose tackle (though Jeffries can play anywhere along the line.) Hankerson should be a nice receiver for us, if he can improve his pass-catching (and he has the work ethic to do it.)

The Redskins traded down a couple times, and doubled the picks that they came into the draft with. Later picks were used to fill out depth at skill positions, namely WR, RB and the secondary.

It was curious that the Redskins did not address the QB situation, or the offensive line until the 7th round. Judging from a post on The Insider at the Post, Shanahan has confidence in John Beck to at least give him a shot next year to run the offense. As of right now, he is the only quarterback who is sure to be on the roster next season.

Maurice Hurt is an interesting pick in the seventh, who dropped due to concerns that he used marijuana. The Redskins do need help at guard, and Hurt played both spots at UF, so he will be good depth. The Redskins still need to make a move or two when the lockout lifts to help improve the line.

Bottom line....I am impressed with the Redskins draft class. It was refreshing for once to see the team with so many picks, and to get depth players in positions where we've had issues in the past. I would have liked to see the offensive line addressed more, but this is a process that will take longer than two off-seasons.

Oh, and Helu.....LOVE trading up for him in the fourth. That is the kind of back that Mike Shanahan wants- a guy with some speed who is a cutback runner. With Torain being a more physical back, I can imagine Helu getting some carries right away, and he's got the potential to get the majority of them.

 

[manchild24]

I was happy with our draft. Looks like for what Im reading and hearing is Shanny likes Beck going forward. Who knows. I think if we want to win now though McNabb needs to stay. But he wont because of the fucked up contract.

Like the RBs we got, was a little surprised with the Kerrigan pick some other names there. I dont know where Bowers was in the second round but if he was available with our pick if we didnt trade it away I would have taken a flyer on him. a number 1 pick for second round money. Who cares if we got 4 years out of him. Bucs got a steal there.

 

[manchild24]

I heard we (along with Philly Dallas and I forget the other team) are going after


Nnamdi Asomugha hard once FA starts. All I have to say about this is :smughard:

 

[SuperKevin]

I was happy with our draft. Looks like for what Im reading and hearing is Shanny likes Beck going forward. Who knows. I think if we want to win now though McNabb needs to stay. But he wont because of the fucked up contract.

Like the RBs we got, was a little surprised with the Kerrigan pick some other names there. I dont know where Bowers was in the second round but if he was available with our pick if we didnt trade it away I would have taken a flyer on him. a number 1 pick for second round money. Who cares if we got 4 years out of him. Bucs got a steal there.

What position would Bowers have played in the 3-4? He's too small to be a 3-4 DE in the jumbo front they play and his knee severely limits his ability to play in space as an OLB.

Anyone know who on the staff is a Nebraska alum?

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I heard we (along with Philly Dallas and I forget the other team) are going after


Nnamdi Asomugha hard once FA starts. All I have to say about this is :smughard:

Of course there would be that speculation. No matter who is in charge of the Redskins, they will almost always be mentioned as a suitor for top shelf talent.

Personally, I don't think they are going after Asomugha. We already have enough invested in our other starters in the secondary in Hall, Otogwe and Landry. I think that Carlos Rogers is re-signed, and that is the end of that. Asomugha will cost too much money, and the Redskins have more holes that they need to fix than throwing money at a strength.

I could be wrong, but that is how I see it. And, until the Redskins prove otherwise, they will be linked to high talent free agents.

 

[manchild24]

Coach Mike Shanahan confirmed that fourth-rounder Roy Helu and sixth-rounder Evan Royster will compete with Ryan Torain for the Redskins' starting tailback job.
Shanahan had especially high praise for Helu's speed and playmaking ability, comparing him to an early-career Clinton Portis. "He was that 4.45 guy coming out, very physical, and once he had that open lane, he could go the distance ... I look at Helu as having that type of ability, that type of speed." Torain will enter camp atop the depth chart as the incumbent, but we like Helu's chances of playing a significant role right off the bat. Royster, on the other hand, may not even make the Week 1 roster