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Official Washington Redskins Forum Thread

According to research by CSN Washington, no quarterback of John Beck's age and experience level has broken out as an effective NFL starter since at least 1980.
Beck turns 30 in August, and he has just four NFL starts under his belt. Jeff Garcia comes closest to Beck, but he had 10 NFL starts and four years with the Calgary Stampeders before breaking out at age 30. Eleven other QBs since 1980 have had their first 3,000-yard season after age 30, but they all had at least 16 starts before their breakout. That list includes luminaries such as Steve Young, Rich Gannon, Doug Flutie, and Phil Simms.
 
The Washington Post wouldn't be surprised if the Redskins bring in competition for K Graham Gano in training camp.
The Skins face a similar dilemma to the Cowboys with David Buehler. Kickoff returners averaged just 19.0 yards per against Gano, the second-lowest mark in the league. It was the opposite story on field goals, though, as Gano's 68.6 conversion rate was four percentage points lower than any other kicker.
 
Coach Mike Shanahan indicated that fifth-rounder DeJon Gomes will start his NFL career at free safety.
Gomes played both safety spots in addition to cornerback and linebacker at Nebraska. "He does have the ability to play nickel, play inside [at strong safety], as a linebacker," said Shanahan. "He's a very smart, heady player." Gomes will have to hone his special teams skills to get on the field as a rookie
 
Citing a team source close to the situation, CSN Washington is refuting a report that Donovan McNabb refused to wear a wristband to help remember plays last season.
The source claims McNabb was never even asked to wear the wristband. The "Sports Junkies," one of the best radio teams in the country, cited three separate sources in the original report. The subsequent team denial was predictable and fully expected, as the wristband story made both McNabb and coach Mike Shanahan look foolish. Eagles beat writer Jeff McLane noted that McNabb refused to don a wristband in Philly, insisting it caused problems with his passing even though QBs wear them on their non-throwing arms
 
NFL Network's Steve Wyche suggests Philadelphia as a possible landing spot for Albert Haynesworth.
Wyche's colleague, Albert Breer, suggested the same marriage a few months ago. While the Eagles can't help but have serious reservations about Haynesworth's character, those may be eased by new line coach Jim Washburn. Haynesworth flourished under Washburn during his Titans days. Other teams connected to Haynesworth have been the Broncos and Lions, although the latter possibility became remote when Nick Fairley fell to No. 13 in the draft
 
Geoff Mosher of the Wilmington News Journal believes Donovan McNabb's career is "spiraling toward its end" this offseason.
Mosher covered McNabb with the Eagles, and he now believes all signs are pointing to the end. "Perhaps there is no worse sign for McNabb," Mosher writes, "than the fact that the Vikings, coached by former Eagles assistant Leslie Frazier, almost tore a biceps tendon reaching for Christian Ponder at 12th overall." McNabb is going to demand big money and a clear-cut starting job wherever he goes. He's going to have a hard time finding a team willing to make that commitment considering his age, ego, and 2010 game film.
 
Donovan McNabb reportedly refused to wear a wristband after he struggled to remember plays last season.
Coach Mike Shanahan pressed for the wristband, but McNabb declined because it would have been "bad for his image." McNabb has been one of the most image-conscious athletes of his generation, and he was concerned that the wristband would project the image that he couldn't learn Shanahan's offense. Owner Daniel Snyder was reportedly "pissed" at Shanahan for his inability to enforce the wristband. There's zero chance that McNabb will play for the Redskins in 2011

Now, I would have agreed with this until the reports were saying that Daniel Snyder was pissed. If he somehow reverts to form, then McNabb stays the starting quarterback of this team.

According to research by CSN Washington, no quarterback of John Beck's age and experience level has broken out as an effective NFL starter since at least 1980.
Beck turns 30 in August, and he has just four NFL starts under his belt. Jeff Garcia comes closest to Beck, but he had 10 NFL starts and four years with the Calgary Stampeders before breaking out at age 30. Eleven other QBs since 1980 have had their first 3,000-yard season after age 30, but they all had at least 16 starts before their breakout. That list includes luminaries such as Steve Young, Rich Gannon, Doug Flutie, and Phil Simms.

Regardless, John Beck looks to be the starter. I would rather go with him to see what he can provide than Rex Grossman. Still, I think the Redskins could make a move for another quarterback other than Grossman to push Beck. Either way, as I've said before, this is a rebuilding year, and the Redskins will likely take a quarterback next season.

NFL Network's Steve Wyche suggests Philadelphia as a possible landing spot for Albert Haynesworth.
Wyche's colleague, Albert Breer, suggested the same marriage a few months ago. While the Eagles can't help but have serious reservations about Haynesworth's character, those may be eased by new line coach Jim Washburn. Haynesworth flourished under Washburn during his Titans days. Other teams connected to Haynesworth have been the Broncos and Lions, although the latter possibility became remote when Nick Fairley fell to No. 13 in the draft

If the Eagles have hired Washburn, they could very well assume the risk, whether it is a trade or the Redskins waive/release him.
 
NFL Network's Jason LaCanfora suggests the Raiders, Seahawks, Redskins, and Bears as potential landing spots for Chad Ochocinco this summer.
LaCanfora is connecting dots as opposed to reporting. Raiders coach Hue Jackson was Ocho's early-career position coach. The Seahawks gave serious consideration to Brandon Marshall and Terrell Owens last season and still need a true No. 1. The Redskins tried to deal for Ochocinco a few years ago. The Bears could use a bigger go-to receiver, but Ocho no longer fits that description.
 
Redskins SS LaRon Landry was "90 percent" recovered from February wrist surgery and a late-season Achilles injury by the end of March.
Landry ended up undergoing shockwave therapy and platelet rich plasma therapy to aid the healing process. He's expected to be ready for training camp, where he'll begin working closer to the line of scrimmage with O.J. Atogwe on board as the free safety.
 
John Beck is expected to enter training camp as the Redskins' starting quarterback, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter.
"It will be his job to lose," said Schefter, who is tight with coach Mike Shanahan after the two collaborated on a book in the late '90s. Per Schefter, the Redskins bypassed QBs in the draft because they believe Beck is better than most of the group that was available in the middle of the first round. Beck doesn't have a touchdown to show for his four NFL starts. He completed 27-of-48 passes (56.2 percent) for 300 yards (6.2 YPA) with a 2:2 TD-to-INT ratio against backups in last year's preseason. Former Dolphins coach Cam Cameron has given up on Beck twice now, which leaves Shanahan as the 30-year-old's lone backer


WOW Miami gave up and him. Kyle knows his shit.
 
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Free agent Rex Grossman appeared on ESPN 980 Radio Wednesday and said he is under the assumption that he will re-sign with the Redskins.
"I'm assuming that's what's going to happen," he said. Grossman added that OC Kyle Shanahan and QBs coach Matt LaFleur personally asked him to throw with the Redskins' receivers during the lockout. For now, we consider Grossman likely to be back in Washington to compete with John Beck. Most reporters covering the situation believe Beck will be ahead on the depth chart

OH DEAR GOD we are fucked
 
The Washington Post considers it "all but a foregone conclusion" that Donovan McNabb's time with the Redskins is up.
We do too, although there is still an odd sect of thinking that claims Mike Shanahan might still bring back McNabb. Not with a $10 million offseason roster bonus, he won't. Currently, John Beck is preparing to be the Redskins' starter. Said projected backup Rex Grossman on the radio Wednesday: "I think (Donovan) is ready to move on. And (the Redskins) are too."
 
Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson expects the Redskins to take a "hot hand approach" in their backfield this season.
It's an approach that makes the most sense -- and Mike Shanahan has lots of history with -- considering the talent on Washington's roster. Ryan Torain may start out as the lead back, but Roy Helu offers rare speed at the position and Shanahan is also said to be high on fellow rookie Evan Royster. Keiland Williams, for now, projects as the favorite for third-down work
 
I got you manchild


Free agent CB Carlos Rogers made it clear Wednesday night that he doesn't expect to re-sign with the Redskins, while also taking shots at DeAngelo Hall.
"I wasn't the corner that gave up the most touchdowns or yards or first downs," said Rogers, speaking directly about Hall. "But I'm the corner that is looked at (as) the second corner, (management feels) I need to be replaced." Asked if he regrets anything he's said," Rogers replied "I don't care. I ain't say nothing that ain't true." He could be as high as the third best corner available on the open market, depending on free agency rules.


DeAngelo Hall is TERRIBLE in any man heavy scheme and Carlos Rogers is right. The Redskins will probably end up with the worst secondary of this upcoming season despite the addition of Atogwe.
 
I got you manchild


Free agent CB Carlos Rogers made it clear Wednesday night that he doesn't expect to re-sign with the Redskins, while also taking shots at DeAngelo Hall.
"I wasn't the corner that gave up the most touchdowns or yards or first downs," said Rogers, speaking directly about Hall. "But I'm the corner that is looked at (as) the second corner, (management feels) I need to be replaced." Asked if he regrets anything he's said," Rogers replied "I don't care. I ain't say nothing that ain't true." He could be as high as the third best corner available on the open market, depending on free agency rules.


DeAngelo Hall is TERRIBLE in any man heavy scheme and Carlos Rogers is right. The Redskins will probably end up with the worst secondary of this upcoming season despite the addition of Atogwe.

Rogers doesn't create the turnovers that Hall does, but I'd rather have him than Hall. Rogers does a great job in coverage. They really do need to keep both around though. Yes, it is investing a lot in the secondary, but having Hall, Rogers, Otogwe and Landry is HUGE.
 
Here is a good article on Ryan Kerrigan. Looks like he could be a great pickup for us. I expect to see him start immediately.

In 2010, the Washington Redskins switched to a 3-4 defense under the supervision of new defensive coordinator Jim Haslett. As with most circumstances in which a team tries to force a scheme on the wrong personnel, the experiment was a bit of a disaster – it gave Albert Haynesworth(notes) yet another reason to alienate himself from his coaching staff, and the ‘Skins fell from 11th to 26th in Football Outsiders’ opponent-adjusted defensive rankings. Like most supposed purveyors of the 3-4 defense, Haslett actually wound up calling a lot of 4-2-5 nickel concepts to fit his personnel and adjust for offensive tendencies.

Now a year removed from the change, the Redskins are charged with finding (or creating) players who fit the aggressive 3-4 ideas Haslett would prefer to run. And, in that regard, few draft-eligible players would understand the importance of that transition more than Purdue defensive end Ryan Kerrigan, who the Redskins took with the 16th overall pick. After a 2010 season in which he put up 70 tackles, 26 tackles for loss, 12½ sacks and five forced fumbles, Kerrigan started taking off weight and impressing in coverage drills as a 3-4 linebacker.


Teams didn’t have a lot of footage on Kerrigan doing anything in five-man fronts (though he did line up as a wide nine-tech end in the style of Kyle Vanden Bosch(notes)). But one of the thoughts behind the switch to 3-4 ‘backer was that his motor was better than his selection of hand moves and that it would be wiser to get him outside the tackles, where he could use his speed and quick turn at the edge to harass quarterbacks on a regular basis. At the Senior Bowl, Kerrigan didn’t just dominate on the edge – he showed enough when dropping back for several 3-4 teams to start talking with him seriously.

But the sack Kerrigan put up at the Senior Bowl showed a player who will do just about anything to get to the quarterback from any position – in this case, Kerrigan took TCU’s Andy Dalton(notes) down near the end of the first half of the game by pinballing off Louisville running back Bilal Powell(notes) and Arkansas right tackle DeMarcus Love(notes).

On the play, the South team set up in a four-receiver set, with the North defense lining up in a 4-2-5 nickel (wide linebacker on the slot), not unlike the plays Haslett runs in Washington. At the snap, Kerrigan blew past Love’s outside arc and actually took the block from Powell. Spinning off Powell took Kerrigan back inside the pocket, out of Love’s area, and right into Dalton’s face.

Kerrigan comes into the NFL with a proven ability to mess up enemy offenses as a 4-3 end, but if he can add the attributes common to 3-4 outside linebackers at the professional level, he could become the kind of indispensable defender necessary for any team to thrive on that side of the ball. And Kerrigan doing so in tandem with Brian Orakpo(notes) might give Washington that sack duo it’s been craving for years.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...ar_ryan_kerrigan_fits_redskins_defense_051911
 
Rogers doesn't create the turnovers that Hall does, but I'd rather have him than Hall. Rogers does a great job in coverage. They really do need to keep both around though. Yes, it is investing a lot in the secondary, but having Hall, Rogers, Otogwe and Landry is HUGE.

Hall sucks, Rodgers cant catch a cold, Landry is shit outside the box and Atogwe will do what every high profile FA has done to the Redskins the past decade. That said Rodgers was the best CB on that team for years. He is right. He cant catch but he can cover.

Also, Kerrigan will be a shitty 3-4 LB. Would think the management and coaching staff would have learned from Orackpo. It has to fucking suck being a Redskins fan. So glad I wasnt raised a Skins fan despite being from DC.
 
Hall sucks, Rodgers cant catch a cold, Landry is shit outside the box and Atogwe will do what every high profile FA has done to the Redskins the past decade. That said Rodgers was the best CB on that team for years. He is right. He cant catch but he can cover.

Also, Kerrigan will be a shitty 3-4 LB. Would think the management and coaching staff would have learned from Orackpo. It has to fucking suck being a Redskins fan. So glad I wasnt raised a Skins fan despite being from DC.

Landry won't be playing anywhere else but the box with Otogwe on the team. Hall creates turnovers, but he more often than not lets in a big play, but that is where having Rogers was a good thing. Their skills complement each other, and that is key going forward.

How do you think Kerrigan will be a bad 3/4 LB? Anything that you have seen to contradict what that article posted? Orakpo had a good season- nine sacks is solid, especially with no nose tackle and the first year in a new system. Plus, with both of them, you have the option of shifting them around and lining them up on the line in certain packages.
 
Landry won't be playing anywhere else but the box with Otogwe on the team. Hall creates turnovers, but he more often than not lets in a big play, but that is where having Rogers was a good thing. Their skills complement each other, and that is key going forward.

How do you think Kerrigan will be a bad 3/4 LB? Anything that you have seen to contradict what that article posted? Orakpo had a good season- nine sacks is solid, especially with no nose tackle and the first year in a new system. Plus, with both of them, you have the option of shifting them around and lining them up on the line in certain packages.

Let Orackpo rush the passer all game and you are allowing him to do what he does best but as soon as you ask him to drop back in coverage it makes the coaching staff look like idiots. Will be even more apparent with Kerrigan. Both cant rush at the same time.
 
DeAngelo Hall was one of the worst CB's in coverage last year. In man he is terrible and the Redskins scheme plays a lot of man so he needs to go. He did have a lot of interceptions but four came in one game (vs Jay Cutler). Carlos Rogers and DeAngelo Hall isn't a good CB duo. But Rogers is better than Hall.

Laron Landry is great in the box but like BB said, he's awful outside of it and he will occasionally be asked to play deep in coverage. Remember that cover 2 defense they played to start the second game vs the Eagles? Desean Jackson does.

Now Atogwe will be the deep safety but SS is where he should be IMO. Atogwe is above average at just about everything which is what makes him good. I think being their deep safety won't utilize all his skills.
 
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