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[ThomasTomasz]

Very tough situation for Hall, the Redskins could save some money against the cap by releasing him. After this, I think a move to safety is a foregone conclusion, if it wasn't before.

Washington Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall, who tore his Achilles tendon last month and underwent surgery to repair it, tore it again this week and will have to redo the surgery, according to sources.

Hall still is likely to be ready for next summer's training camp, though this second injury and surgery will make it that much more difficult.

Rookie cornerback Bashaud Breeland has replaced Hall in Washington's lineup and has shined, collecting 26 tackles so far this season.

Hall is signed through 2017 and will count $4.8 million against the salary cap next year. The Redskins, however, would save $2.375 million if they don't feel he can return and subsequently release him.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ll-tears-achilles-again-needs-another-surgery

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

Very tough situation for Hall, the Redskins could save some money against the cap by releasing him. After this, I think a move to safety is a foregone conclusion, if it wasn't before.

he tore it again after a month? that cant be a good sign.
he probably tried to do too much too soon.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

he tore it again after a month? that cant be a good sign.
he probably tried to do too much too soon.

The Post said that Hall injured it at his home, and that he had yet to begin rehab. This could put an additional 6-9 months of recovery time onto the original estimate, which means we could see him start the 2015 season on the PUP list

 

[Slateman]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11808434/call-start-robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-came-top

So apparently, the decisions to start Griffin is from "upper management" and the lockerroom is not pleased.

Then this happened to the team bus:

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11808434/call-start-robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-came-top

So apparently, the decisions to start Griffin is from "upper management" and the lockerroom is not pleased.

Then this happened to the team bus:

nah - cant believe that.


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[ThomasTomasz]

It gets worse, the same article from ESPN said that Griffin has alienated himself from the rest of the team, likely due to the fact he's got the relationship with Snyder and that he possibly forced this decision on the coach.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

It gets worse, the same article from ESPN said that Griffin has alienated himself from the rest of the team, likely due to the fact he's got the relationship with Snyder and that he possibly forced this decision on the coach.

media loves to stir it up.......
cant believe everything read.

RGIII looks like he has the team motivated today


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[x0xHumblex0x]

:damnit:

:tables:

terrible throw on that 4th & 6. thats the play RG3 needed to prove he was back

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

I guess most you have given up on hope??

I read somewhere that BB is going the game this weekend against the Bucs.
how victorious would be to have RGIII rip that Bucs secondary with like 5+ TDs
:fistpump:

 

[ThomasTomasz]

This game was awful on different levels, but man, RGIII has absolutely no pocket awareness, and in the middle of his third season that is inexcusable. I know people are going to defend him and point to Trent Williams being out and the offensive line in general being below average, but he held onto the ball entirely too long and took coverage sacks.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

This game was awful on different levels, but man, RGIII has absolutely no pocket awareness, and in the middle of his third season that is inexcusable. I know people are going to defend him and point to Trent Williams being out and the offensive line in general being below average, but he held onto the ball entirely too long and took coverage sacks.

they all suck.
rather see coverage sacks than the iNTs.
he had 2 INTs but one with Niles Paul wasnt his fault.
2nd one was just a bad throw.
lets just tank and get high 1st rounder at this point


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[ThomasTomasz]

they all suck.
rather see coverage sacks than the iNTs.
he had 2 INTs but one with Niles Paul wasnt his fault.
2nd one was just a bad throw.
lets just tank and get high 1st rounder at this point


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It's also clear RGIII at this point is not the answer. He has the rest of the season to convince me otherwise. For a third year QB, his pocket awareness is awful and on many of those coverage sacks, he had someone open.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

It's also clear RGIII at this point is not the answer. He has the rest of the season to convince me otherwise. For a third year QB, his pocket awareness is awful and on many of those coverage sacks, he had someone open.

he is clearly rusty. he missed DJax 3x that would have made a difference. 2x the throws were too long and once he didn't read the blitz and didn't even look his left. he actually had DJax and Garcon? wide open.
his short throws seem to be a little low and behind. lots of his throws are NOT hitting guys in the chest, which means he is definitely off.
But
he is moving around better than what most would think.
and
I actually saw him slide too.


regardless; we have been waiting for RGIII to get healthy, as its seems that way for 2 seasons now. its only fair to give our "Franchise QB" a legit chance to play under this kind of pressure.
he did it once before, in his rookie season, he can do it again.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ii-great-qbs-dont-play-well-if-teammates-dont

Remember when you said the media was making something out of nothing when it came to the divide in the locker room between much of the team and Griffin? Looks like the people covering the team were right. Absolutely stupid to say this, and honestly, I'd give him to the end of the year and if he can't improve his play and fix the relationships in the locker room he's destroyed, go out and get someone else. This is a joke.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ii-great-qbs-dont-play-well-if-teammates-dont

Remember when you said the media was making something out of nothing when it came to the divide in the locker room between much of the team and Griffin? Looks like the people covering the team were right. Absolutely stupid to say this, and honestly, I'd give him to the end of the year and if he can't improve his play and fix the relationships in the locker room he's destroyed, go out and get someone else. This is a joke.

cant believe everything the media puts out there.
most of it is likely to be taken out of context also.


I am as frustrated as any other Redskin fan
but
I am sticking it out with RGIII and will be the 1st admit it was mistake in the end if he does turn out to be a bust.
he shut the media up once, he can do it again.

its a team sport built around leadership.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Yes, it's a sport built around leadership, and he has not been the leader that we thought he was. He's got to show some improvement over the final weeks, or else we have to look at drafting a QB in the second or third round. I think our #1 has to be traded down for more help, or used to take Landon Collins.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

Yes, it's a sport built around leadership, and he has not been the leader that we thought he was. He's got to show some improvement over the final weeks, or else we have to look at drafting a QB in the second or third round. I think our #1 has to be traded down for more help, or used to take Landon Collins.

more reading http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/18/robert-griffin-iii-jay-gruden-washington-problems/

 

[ThomasTomasz]

more reading http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/18/robert-griffin-iii-jay-gruden-washington-problems/

I love what Gruden did personally. Something tells me this is what Gruden has told Griffin in private, and he's just as frustrated to vent it to the media as Griffin was to call out the team. It's also sending a message upstairs that maybe Griffin isn't the answer. Gruden has some stones to say that, and I like it.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

I love what Gruden did personally. Something tells me this is what Gruden has told Griffin in private, and he's just as frustrated to vent it to the media as Griffin was to call out the team. It's also sending a message upstairs that maybe Griffin isn't the answer. Gruden has some stones to say that, and I like it.

its good thing for sure.
as much i like RGIII, its making him aware that come 2015 OTC, he had better been able to live up to his expectations or they will be looking for another QB.
BUT
maybe this is the kind of "push" Bobby needs........

like i said; he shut the media up once, he has it in him to do it again.

i dont really want to start all over again.....

 

[ThomasTomasz]

What you just said about 2015 OTC is the reason that we shouldn't (and won't) go back to either McCoy or Cousins, barring injury. They have to see what they have in RGIII the rest of the way, and from here on out, he needs to show improvement each week over the last. It's not about winning this year, it's about seeing what we have this year and who is going to be saved for next year.

I don't want to start over again either, but lets face it, we already have with Shanahan gone. Gruden has no ties to the QB, and he won't be affected by the lack of a draft choice. I'm not about to say lets trade up for Mariota or Winston (and seriously, lets stay as far away from Jameis as humanly possible) but if we get a great guy fall to us in the second or third, we have to consider it.