[XB1] Official Xbox One Thread

[Twigg4075]

If Sony ends up having these same policies, especially with games being tied to your account, it will change my decision from wait a year to never getting either of these consoles. I'll be happy playing my archaic 360 and PS3.

 

[SethMode]

Here's another article posted on OXM's twitter:
www.oxmonline.com/report-trade-process-xbox-one-revealed

Just look at the comments. Not a single positive one. Self proclaimed Xbox fanboys are saying since this console has been announced it's been nothing but bad news. The same thing that I, and many others have been saying.

But yeah, I'm the fanboy.

:tellmemore:

Man, you are a pro at going crazy. I think ONE person in this thread called you a fanboy. I have yet to see anyone really defending ANY of the news from this, here or anywhere. So who are you talking about?

If it's PepperNY you should at the very least find a way to work a symbol into his name so everytime you mention him it can be like a really sick putdown.

 

[jms493]

my thing.....I dont care about used games, TV, movies, borrowing games, switching accounts, or any of this BS everyone is going crazy over.

Can I buy the system, bring it home, sign into xbox live, play Forza 5, and tailgate Swarley around the track until he breaks? If I can do that...I should be happy.
:rolltide:

 

[Twigg4075]

:tellmemore:

Man, you are a pro at going crazy. I think ONE person in this thread called you a fanboy. I have yet to see anyone really defending ANY of the news from this, here or anywhere. So who are you talking about?

If it's PepperNY you should at the very least find a way to work a symbol into his name so everytime you mention him it can be like a really sick putdown.

Yup, definitely Pepper. Although I'm sure there are several others thinking the same thing and agreed with what he said. How that makes me "crazy", I'm not sure?

"Sick put down". Hilarious bro!

But anyway, Sony's silence during all of this doom and gloom from M$ really concerns me. If they didn't have all of these shitty policies with the PS4 why wouldn't they come out and publicly announce to the contrary what with all the negative press M$ is getting? It seems to me that if they didn't have this crap on PS4 they could take a giant shit on Xbox One by just saying "Yeah, all of that stuff that's pissing you guys off about M$'s new console? The PS4 won't have any of that." Coupled with the fact that M$ is partnering with retailers to make sure they control EVERY aspect of everything, especially considering the used games aspect, I can easily see Sony doing the same thing. Personally, I think making sure developers get money from used game sales is a good thing, but you know damn well M$ and Sony will fuck the control of that shit up royally. You think Gamestop's trade-in values and used game prices are shitty now? Ha! Wait until M$/Sony and the developers get a percentage of that too.

 

[SethMode]

my thing.....I dont care about used games, TV, movies, borrowing games, switching accounts, or any of this BS everyone is going crazy over.

Can I buy the system, bring it home, sign into xbox live, play Forza 5, and tailgate Swarley around the track until he breaks? If I can do that...I should be happy.
:rolltide:

I'm pretty much there, although I rarely care about any of this stuff (and certainly not to the fever pitch that a lot of the internet crazies have gotten over it). The one thing that would bum me out is if they do link a game to a single account, forcing the other account to purchase it to play couch coop. That would pretty much murder what a great generation of Arcade gaming has built in terms of getting my girlfriend into games.

I will say, MS' approach from a consumer perspective through all of this has been baffling to me. The times they do try to justify things, they justify them poorly like they never really came up with an answer. Then there are the times where one dude says another, then someone else says something else, then some dude on MS engineer on Twitter goes against what some higher up says...it's the most bizarre annoucement I can remember, and that's saying something after the insanity that was the PS3.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

4k video was never the question. Gaming is where we were at and do you own one. You can't believe TVs are being replaced quickly. That is not a purchase you make every 4 years

What difference does it make if I own one ? Thats flawed thinking from the get go.
Of course TVs are being replaced. I just emphasized things for a reason , Im not going to repeat it. If you're only concern is present adoption then you are missing the big picture.
These consoles are old and dated and have been for years.
The market has changed.
You cannot get by with dated tech in a world where people are buying the latest and greatest on a consistent basis. People will NOT buy a XB0 to play 1080p games when they can have a Ipad 5 with super retina display playing equally high res video and games. Or a friggin 69$ Roku box.
You need to appeal to people in some way that people want. AAA title gaming is the only reason these boxes will exist in homes. High end cutting edge visuals are still the best way to sell games. What are you not following here ?

 

[KNUBB]

Yup, definitely Pepper. Although I'm sure there are several others thinking the same thing and agreed with what he said. How that makes me "crazy", I'm not sure?

"Sick put down". Hilarious bro!

But anyway, Sony's silence during all of this doom and gloom from M$ really concerns me. If they didn't have all of these shitty policies with the PS4 why wouldn't they come out and publicly announce to the contrary what with all the negative press M$ is getting? It seems to me that if they didn't have this crap on PS4 they could take a giant shit on Xbox One by just saying "Yeah, all of that stuff that's pissing you guys off about M$'s new console? The PS4 won't have any of that." Coupled with the fact that M$ is partnering with retailers to make sure they control EVERY aspect of everything, especially considering the used games aspect, I can easily see Sony doing the same thing. Personally, I think making sure developers get money from used game sales is a good thing, but you no damn well M$ and Sony will fuck the control of that shit up royally. You think Gamestop's trade-in values and used game prices are shitty now? Ha! Wait until M$/Sony and the developers get a percentage of that too.

E3 is right around the corner. With it being that class there is no reason to come out with any news no matter how minor it may be or if it is a direct shot at the competition. They can work it into the beginning of their conference.

What difference does it make if I own one ? Thats flawed thinking from the get go.

It is not. Like I said the TV is not something that gets replaced often. Less often than these "out of date" consoles. I bought my TV the same day I got my PS3 in July 2007. Still on it and have no intention of getting a new one til it is a must. This is how most people buy their TV's.

Of course TVs are being replaced. I just emphasized things for a reason , Im not going to repeat it. If you're only concern is present adoption then you are missing the big picture.

A 4k TV isn't the next BIG THING. Remember when 3D was the next big thing?

These consoles are old and dated and have been for years.

Up until February they were the best home consoles on the market so this is dumb. Its not like games all look like shit. For the most part they are looking as good as they ever have because devs have learned to optimize everything in these consoles.

You cannot get by with dated tech in a world where people are buying the latest and greatest on a consistent basis. People will NOT buy a XB0 to play 1080p games when they can have a Ipad 5 with super retina display playing equally high res video and games.

Lemme know when you can play high quality titles on an iPad. Best looking mobile game I have seen is Infinity Blade, but that isn't anything near what is done on a console.

Or a friggin 69$ Roku box.
You need to appeal to people in some way that people want. AAA title gaming is the only reason these boxes will exist in homes. High end cutting edge visuals are still the best way to sell games. What are you not following here ?

What you're saying is 1080p currently looks like shit. Is that what I'm getting here. I have said from the get go there is barely any native 1080p games so expecting games to jump to 4k sometime in the next 10 years is naive. It isn't gonna happen. Anyone who would rather play on an iPad and claim how great 4k is needs to be put down like a horse with a broken leg. Look at my sweet resolution on my tiny screen. Both of these consoles will run 4k video(Which I agree is a necessity), but claiming 4k gaming is a must is in no way correct considering devs won't even touch that resolution in this generation

 

[Swarley]

Aaaand more confusion...

The Xbox One will not require gamers to pay a fee to reactivate a used game, but it will require a regular online spot check to verify the authenticity of games being played, according to sources familiar with the system.

The Xbox One will automatically authenticate a game using an encryption code built into a game's disc, when it is installed on the machine. That authentication on the console's hard drive tied to the game is then verified regularly through an internet connection.

When a person sells the game or it is installed and played on another system, the game is deauthenticated on the original machine until the disc is brought back and used to re-authenticate the installation.

Our sources also said that there are no plans to charge gamers a fee to sell or reactive a used game. Earlier today, Microsoft's Larry Hryb touched on the topic of used games on his blog, but didn't say whether fees will be required.

This is just a fucking mess. They should have come straight out and said one way or another, or just waited until E3 to talk about some of these topics.

Full article on Polygon:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/24/43...uire-regular-authentication-checks-used-games

 

[jms493]

Don't read anything anymore....its all bs. I'Il wait till someone has the system in hand with games and tries all this stuff out. It all seems like a big waste of time.

 

[Twigg4075]

Aaaand more confusion...





This is just a fucking mess. They should have come straight out and said one way or another, or just waited until E3 to talk about some of these topics.

Full article on Polygon:
http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/24/43...uire-regular-authentication-checks-used-games

Seth is right. The level of contradiction and confusion coming out of the M$ camp right now is unheard of.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

E3 is right around the corner. With it being that class there is no reason to come out with any news no matter how minor it may be or if it is a direct shot at the competition. They can work it into the beginning of their conference.



It is not. Like I said the TV is not something that gets replaced often. Less often than these "out of date" consoles. I bought my TV the same day I got my PS3 in July 2007. Still on it and have no intention of getting a new one til it is a must. This is how most people buy their TV's.



A 4k TV isn't the next BIG THING. Remember when 3D was the next big thing?



Up until February they were the best home consoles on the market so this is dumb. Its not like games all look like shit. For the most part they are looking as good as they ever have because devs have learned to optimize everything in these consoles.



Lemme know when you can play high quality titles on an iPad. Best looking mobile game I have seen is Infinity Blade, but that isn't anything near what is done on a console.



What you're saying is 1080p currently looks like shit. Is that what I'm getting here. I have said from the get go there is barely any native 1080p games so expecting games to jump to 4k sometime in the next 10 years is naive. It isn't gonna happen. Anyone who would rather play on an iPad and claim how great 4k is needs to be put down like a horse with a broken leg. Look at my sweet resolution on my tiny screen. Both of these consoles will run 4k video(Which I agree is a necessity), but claiming 4k gaming is a must is in no way correct considering devs won't even touch that resolution in this generation

NM you've disregarded every fact and trend in the industry based completely on your own opinion. PS2 sold more than twice as many consoles as XB/PS3 have. There more Tablets sold in a quarter than combined consoles in a year. More people have played Angry Birds then every COD combined. If you cant offer folks the easiest way to play the best looking games what are you offering ??
Hang on to your antiquated thoughts because these consoles may make things seem like 1984 all over again.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Good God MS. At the very least pick a new spokesperson and face of your product , I cant recall the last time Doofus Nelson actually answered a question.

 

[Houston]

 

[Twigg4075]

Wow, that is a slaughter.

 

[Garrett67]

Lemme know when you can play high quality titles on an iPad. Best looking mobile game I have seen is Infinity Blade, but that isn't anything near what is done on a console.

Really? I'm not even going to waste my time posting a rebuttal other than to say there are Many high quality titles available on iPad, at a 2560x1440 resolution even.





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[KNUBB]

Really? I'm not even going to waste my time posting a rebuttal other than to say there are Many high quality titles available on iPad, at a 2560x1440 resolution even.





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Tell me how much resolution matter when most of the games look like this

As compared to this

.

Like I said Infinity Blade IS the best looking title on iOS.

I'm forced to believe you dudes see numbers and go nuts and know little meaning to them.

I'm glad 1080p is gonna make things like 1984 all over again tho. :thumbsup:

 

[Twigg4075]

Really? I'm not even going to waste my time posting a rebuttal other than to say there are Many high quality titles available on iPad, at a 2560x1440 resolution even.





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I will also say that I personally couldn't give two shits about "games" without actual controls. I don't care how good they look on tablets or phones, all they are in my opinion are short time wasters for when you're taking a shit. And no, I have no interest of buying an add on or downloading some app that allows me to use my PS3 controller with my phone via bluetooth.

I bought Dead Space for my iPod Touch a year or so ago when it was 99 cents because I love the series. I also heard good things about it even though it's a phone game. It's garbage. Trying to control with on screen controls is a fucking joke.

 

[KNUBB]

You said quality games. . I don't care what the argument was.

You guys need to go outside. All you fags do is bicker back and forth all god damn day.

Go out in your front yard and look around for a few minutes. There really is more to life than staring at pixels.

The argument is about that exactly pixels. You took the term quality too literal as in not a good game. When I was using it in the context in which the argument was about.... visuals.

 

[Twigg4075]

You said quality games. . I don't care what the argument was.

You guys need to go outside. All you fags do is bicker back and forth all god damn day.

Go out in your front yard and look around for a few minutes. There really is more to life than staring at pixels.

I just spent the last few hours outside mowing my lawn. Now it's time to play games...on a console.:dealwithit:

 

[JBregz]

I just spent the last few hours outside mowing my lawn. Now it's time to play games...on a console.:dealwithit:

On one of those lawn tractors you old lazy fuck.