[XB1] Official Xbox One Thread

[Fappin Raptor]

XBoX 360 4 lyfe!!!!! Fuxk xboX UNO.

 

[jms493]

I wish ms would just offer a model without a disc drive and charge 50 less. Screw all these discs.

 

[BigBucs]

This sounds dope.

Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

I wasnt getting one anyway but the rest of the shit that has been revealed is ridiculous. No way I would consider getting that shit even though most of it wouldnt even effect me. The principal behind the shit if off putting.

 

[killgod]

holy shit i just died. :lol:

 

[SethMode]

This is a straight up savaging by Polygon:

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/4406170/xbox-one-internet-trade-policy

 

[Primetime]

This is a straight up savaging by Polygon:

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/4406170/xbox-one-internet-trade-policy

I don't think I've ever read such a terrible article.

 

[jms493]

It was only a matter of time before this happened to consoles...and it might be the last generation of them. PC games are all digital, phone apps and games are all digital, tablet apps and games are all digital and there is no secondary market.

Essentially you are moving to an all digital gaming machine.......most of us have one...a PC.

 

[SethMode]

I don't think I've ever read such a terrible article.

Clearly you haven't read much Polygon.

 

[SethMode]

It was only a matter of time before this happened to consoles...and it might be the last generation of them. PC games are all digital, phone apps and games are all digital, tablet apps and games are all digital and there is no secondary market.

Essentially you are moving to an all digital gaming machine.......most of us have one...a PC.

I don't think the DRM on XBJ is really comparable to PC. Sure, PC is mostly digital now, and Steam is the biggest, but there are still a TON of different ways to get your games on PC. Those other options obviously aren't going to exist with XBJ.

 

[jms493]

Those other options obviously aren't going to exist with XBJ.

why not?

 

[SethMode]

why not?

Why not what? Your digital options are going to be extremely limited on XBJ. The primary provided will be MS, and it's still a bit of a mystery what secondary options there might even be. The lack of any freedom on the consumers part makes it pretty drastically different than the PC, IMO.

 

[jms493]

Why not what? Your digital options are going to be extremely limited on XBJ. The primary provided will be MS, and it's still a bit of a mystery what secondary options there might even be. The lack of any freedom on the consumers part makes it pretty drastically different than the PC, IMO.

The prices may not be as low as PC but why wont I be able to buy download codes from the same retailers I buy from now?

 

[SethMode]

The prices may not be as low as PC but why wont I be able to buy download codes from the same retailers I buy from now?

I don't know? Haven't they been decidedly coy as far as that? Words like "select retailers" or something like that seems like something I read somewhere. This generation MS has very rarely sold game codes for their Arcade games, and never for the On Demand games, at least to my knowledge.

And I can buy a game from GoG.com and give it away. I'm sure there are other PC examples of this 100% free DRM. That's not going to exist in any way on XBJ.

 

[jms493]

And I can buy a game from GoG.com and give it away. I'm sure there are other PC examples of this 100% free DRM. That's not going to exist in any way on XBJ.

yeah if they are trying to make it like a PC gaming rig without all the benefits of a PC gaming machine...I would imagine they would be in trouble. PC gaming is going to become easier to enter IMO. In fact it is already 1000 times easier then it used to me. The biggest problem is the price to enter and the stigma that it is way too complicated.

If Valve creates some sort of "Steam Box" then consoles should watch out.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

LULZ From reddit.

Hi everyone,

Just thought I'd share something interesting that happened to me this week. I work for a marketing firm in Redmond that has a contract with Microsoft. I can't say specifically which division, but suffice to say we are not involved with the Xbox.

We had a pretty large meeting this week at one of the offices off 31st and, because this was the first time we had visited the Microsoft complex, we got a tour of some of the buildings. It's a quite amazing place. We won't the only visitors either; there were contractors from quite a number of other firms visiting, and presumably meeting to discuss projects related to our own.

We had a semi-formal meeting in one of the larger meeting rooms, followed by lunch and some more touring. In some of the buildings they have offices for a whole range of different divisions all mixed together (e.g. I saw Skype offices, Windows Phone offices and more all in just one building). At one point we visited one of the Xbox offices, and our guide went off to find a particular manager for us to meet. He was gone for a while, so we were left hanging in the middle of a fairly hectic office for several minutes.

While we were waiting, various marketing employees said hello to us/shook our hands - it was a pretty friendly place. Just nearby were two guys chatting at one of their PCs, and they caught my attention because they were on Reddit! I thought that was pretty cool, and presumed they were having a late lunch break and were just goofing around online. I kind-of started to eavesdrop (I honestly couldn't help it, they were talking about Reddit!) and realized they were actually talking business. One of the exchanges went like this:

"I got a few more on pics and some of the smaller subs"
"Honestly just don't bother I think, stay focused on gaming. We really should be spending 90% of our time there." [Note: I presume they were referring to /r/pics and /r/gaming]

His coworker went back to his own computer, and he continued Redditing while we waited. He must've really been hyped up on caffeine or something, because his typing was like a machine gun and he was switching tabs like crazy (or maybe that's just because Microsoft hires the 'hacker' type of guys?) Anyway I noticed he was mass-downvoting a ton of posts and comments, and he kept switching to other tabs to make posts and comments of his own.

I couldn't make out exactly what he was posting, but I presumed he was doing RM (reputation management) and asked my boss about it later. According to my boss, MS have just brought in a huge sweep of SMM managers to handle reputation management for the Xbox One. If you're unfamiliar with reputation management (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reputation_management), it is basically what it sounds like. Social media managers doing RM focus on providing positive posts, likes and shares to promote the brand on social media sites and forums - usually posing as the 'happy customer' archetype through a multitude of accounts. In the last year or so, Reddit has become more and more important to an overall RM strategy.

It also often involves 'debunking' people who make negative or critical comments about the brand online. I've done this myself for numerous clients before (even on Reddit once, sorry!). It is fairly standard procedure, although usually not so much for huge companies like Microsoft. I don't know why such a huge company needs to devote energy to this, because their brand is already extraordinarly well-known. But in any case, they seem to be putting a BIG focus on it for the Xbox One. Not only in-house; they're also dishing out the big bucks for some pretty high-profile marketing firms to do the work for them. Reddit will absolutely be a part of that strategy, and the couple of guys I saw were probably just the tip of the iceberg.

I'm a fairly die-hard gamer and Redditor who frequents this sub a lot. After seeing all the massive debates about the Xbox lately, I thought you guys would probably find that little morsel to be interesting. There's a good chance that many of the positive posts/comments we're seeing about the Xbox One have been posted by employees from one of those marketing firms. It's fairly standard to diss your competitors too, so I'm guessing some of the negative posts about it might even be from Sony. That's just a hypothesis, though it wouldn't be the first time a seeming-crapstorm among "Redditors" was actually just a proxy war between marketing employees.

 

[jms493]

LULZ From reddit.

well that was dumb...

 

[SethMode]

I never really understood why anyone would care that companies/developers/whatever would use public means to talk up their product, even if they don't come right out and say it. Sure, don't go trusting a game's public rating on Metacritic or anything, but other than that, it's just as easy for some Joe Nobody to rant and rave about how much better one system is than another (we have a few of them here)...is it really so bad that a company like MS would hire people to do it too?

 

[Handleit_44]

Microsoft kills game ownership and expects us to smile

There is also a promise that Microsoft Studios games will all allow you to trade them in and give them away for free, bringing a whole new emphasis to the expression, "It's the least we could do!"

The suggestion that these changes to game ownership have been taken to combat piracy or limit the damage that used game sales do to the primary market do not stand up to much scrutiny - at our most charitable, we can say that the data is merely inconclusive, but analysis of other industries that have dealt with these issues for much longer is pretty clear that the overall benefits at least balance out the risks of allowing piracy and used markets to flourish.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-07-microsoft-kills-game-ownership-and-expects-us-to-smile

 

[PP]

If Sony is smart and they had similar plans with used games they need to go ahead and scrap it. This is a free win for getting people to their console.

 

[ryne candy]

Supposedly it won't allow for game rentals?? I guess that is the end of GF & Weekend Confirmed (in the present form).