Oregon and 2 pt. Conversions

[NAHSTE]

Cal fan...we find new ways to lose everytime. As for if the field goal won or lost the game...it's impossible to say. Momentum does exist, and I doubt you see Oregon running zone read after zone read after zone read if they're down. They'll pass, and Thomas was awful to that point. Who knows what would have happened?

My point exactly. I still think Oregon St. has a good shot of knocking of Oregon at home. It's their bowl game.

 

[beamerball811]

But who have the other two contenders played? Utah was a sham, and Va Tech wouldn't even finish in the top 5 of the Pac 10.

VT if we played each Pac-10 team this year.
Arizona - Win
Arizona State - Win
Cal - Win
Oregon - Close Loss
Oregon State - Close Win
Stanford - Close Win
UCLA - U Can't Lose Againse = Win
USC - Close Win
Washington - Win
Washington State - Win

I can explain each individually if you really want me to.

I dunno. VA Tech has been amazing since their opening losses.

No doubt, we have matured greatly and if there was a playoff, it'd be a tough team to play against. Even against Boise we spotted them 17 points and won the rest of the game in the toughest parts 33-13. If that isn't a statement of quick maturity and senior leadership, I don't know what is. Not to mention the fact that we are playing overall great football right now.

 

[beamerball811]

My point exactly. I still think Oregon St. has a good shot of knocking of Oregon at home. It's their bowl game.

I agree, OSU always...ALWAYS seems to play a close one against their rival Ducks.

 

[NAHSTE]

VT if we played each Pac-10 team this year.
Arizona - Win
Arizona State - Win
Cal - Win
Oregon - Close Loss
Oregon State - Close Win
Stanford - Close Win
UCLA - U Can't Lose Againse = Win
USC - Close Win
Washington - Win
Washington State - Win

I can explain each individually if you really want me to.


No doubt, we have matured greatly and if there was a playoff, it'd be a tough team to play against. Even against Boise we spotted them 17 points and won the rest of the game in the toughest parts 33-13. If that isn't a statement of quick maturity and senior leadership, I don't know what is. Not to mention the fact that we are playing overall great football right now.

Good thing James Madison isn't in the Pac-10.

 

[Sportsbuck]

Ah.

Well...Oregon has played two good teams and proved both times that they are the #1 team in the nation. They shouldn't have to prove it six times.

They played a great team in Stanford and a depleted USC squad who gave them a helluva game. Auburn has proven themselves against the likes of #5 LSU, #13 Arkansas, #17 South Carolina, and #21 Mississippi State (on the road), and has a road date at #11 Alabama as well as a rematch with South Carolina just to make it to the BCSNCG.

Oregon has a much stronger schedule than Boise and TCU just going purely based on conference opponents, but they played a weak non-con (Auburn has played a comparatively weak one), and don't have the conference strength to bulk up their schedule like Auburn. They should be #2 in the nation IMO, and I give Chip Kelly credit for all he's done keeping them undefeated, but I think Oregon is pretty overrated.

 

[NAHSTE]

Yeah, the Pac 10 is way better than the ACC. Oregon is obviously really good, Stanford is really good, USC, and 'Zona can give anybody a game, and Oregon State is no slouch either.

The ACC is a wasteland of mediocre teams and shitty QB play.

 

[G-men]

VT if we played each Pac-10 team this year.
Arizona - Win
Arizona State - Win
Cal - Win
Oregon - Close Loss
Oregon State - Close Win
Stanford - Close Win
UCLA - U Can't Lose Againse = Win
USC - Close Win
Washington - Win
Washington State - Win

I can explain each individually if you really want me to.

lol at you thinking VT would be competitive in the Pac-10 and that they would beat USC, Arizona, AND Stanford.

obvious homer is obvious.

 

[beamerball811]

Good thing James Madison isn't in the Pac-10.

You realize you're playing against the ACC, correct? They don't even deserve an automatic bid.

USC and Stanford would eat your lunch, OSU, Cal and Arizona would all be favored to beat you on a neutral site. I don't think you've watched one Pac-10 game this year.

I'm sorry-there's no way VT loses 1 game against the Pac-10. They lose 2 or more.

And if you take away the parts of the game where Oregon scored, Cal won the game 13-0. And for the rest of our losses too. Isn't that kind of reasoning fun? WEEEEEEE

Except for when they got crushed when a win would have put them into the Rose Bowl a few years ago. 08, I think.

Also, Cal might beat VT at home, but on the road we're awful.

let the haters be hatin'
Doesn't matter who is favored. I'm pretty sure we were favored and lost against Boise and JMU, just proves that doesn't matter. Anything can happen. Maybe I'm a bit biased, but It's a reality, face it. We play a tougher schedule than TCU, but not by much. We lost 2 games to Boise, don't rule our young defense out, we are going to not only go, but win the Orange Bowl!

 

[Prodigal Son]

People are kind of ignoring that Oreogn ran the last 9 minutes off the clock They had possession of the ball for 9 fucking minutes. I believe that's their longest drive, all year.

 

[beamerball811]

Yeah, the Pac 10 is way better than the ACC. Oregon is obviously really good, Stanford is really good, USC, and 'Zona can give anybody a game, and Oregon State is no slouch either.

The ACC is a wasteland of mediocre teams and shitty QB play.

lol at you thinking VT would be competitive in the Pac-10 and that they would beat USC, Arizona, AND Stanford.

obvious homer is obvious.

no shit I'm gonna be biased, I know all this, I'm a HUGE college football fan, and personally LOVE watching the Pac-10. I watch a lot of games believe it or not. I know OSU is tough, as well as USC and Stanford and 'Zona. All good teams, I'm not taking that away from them. Our defense is playing a lot better now and it would be a good game nonetheless. Bring up the Boise and JMU loss all you want, but the fact that our leadership stepped up during the Boise game, held a senior meeting only after JMU and has this team on an 8-game winning streak says a lot. I would love to see us play a tougher schedule, believe me. I know so much more about VT football than you guys, all you know is we lost to Boise and JMU, nothing else. I know a lot more about Pac-10 football too, maybe not as much as you actual fans, but more than everybody else. BOOK IT!

 

[NAHSTE]

Outside of Beamer I can't name one ACC coach I would consider good, let alone great..

Paul Johnson, Butch Davis and Tom O'Brien.

 

[G-men]

Paul Johnson, Butch Davis and Tom O'Brien.

you mean the guy that had 12 players get suspended?

*waits for NAHSTE rant*

 

[NAHSTE]

you mean the guy that had 12 players get suspended?

*waits for NAHSTE rant*

Well, if Frank Beamer is a "good" coach with 0 championships, what does that make the architect of one of the greatest teams of all time?

 

[Sportsbuck]

Butch was a great recruiter and still is... But the U won a lot of games on talent alone. I would take any of the coaches I named over him.

Butch took a team from the depths of serious NCAA probation and sanctions and turned them into one of the best teams of all-time (And in all honesty should have played for a NC in his last year at Miami as well).

The only guys on that list I take over Butch are Jim Harbaugh and Chip Kelly. Personally, I believe Harbaugh may be the best coach in the country.

 

[Golden Taters]

Butch was a great recruiter and still is... But the U won a lot of games on talent alone. I would take any of the coaches I named over him.

I agree, aside from Sark (maybe Tedford) I believe they are all better coaches than Butch.