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Playoff consensus reached for college football

This will be shit, but slightly less shitty than the previous shit.

followed by...

this is a step in the right direction and far better than the BCS.

Glad to see people calm down and common sense start to prevail.

Selection committee picking the teams is no big deal. I would prefer the AP rankings, but at least its better than the stupid computers that get tweaked every year, or the absurd coaches poll.

This is a huge upgrade over the BCS, and will lead to bigger playoffs. Great day for college football.

Also it looks like it will be top 4 teams overall, not top 4 conf champs.
 
And if this was used last season, am I correct to believe these would have been the semifinal match-ups?

#4 Stanford @ #1 LSU
#3 Oklahoma State @ #2 Alabama


Would these games have been better than whatever was actually played?

Can't say for certain because the selections would be made by a committee. They are told to give preference based on SoS and being a conference champion, so Oregon might have beaten out Stanford.
 
I like the idea.

The coaches poll is a mess, as a few people have already brought up, and with the AP wanting nothing to do with deciding which schools get the biggest bowl payout this is the way to go.

It will be interesting to see what two teams make it every year to play the two SEC division champs. :arrieta:
 
followed by...



Glad to see people calm down and common sense start to prevail.

Selection committee picking the teams is no big deal. I would prefer the AP rankings, but at least its better than the stupid computers that get tweaked every year, or the absurd coaches poll.

This is a huge upgrade over the BCS, and will lead to bigger playoffs. Great day for college football.

Also it looks like it will be top 4 teams overall, not top 4 conf champs.

I agree, hopefully it works like the NCAA tournament committee....IMO to get the top 4 teams you need to have humans making the decisions. Computers are great, but they don't take into account everything....such as the Oregon/Stanford debacle from last year.
 
If they weren't going to use objective criteria like conference champions, then I would honestly rather have a selection committee than a coaches poll and a BCS computer composite ranking. I think the old BCS computer rankings handcuffed the championship game rather than helped it. Hopefully the selection committee will be able to leave out Nebraska after Colorado drops 65 on them the previous week.

I can see how a selection committee will undoubtedly lead to controversy, but at least you have people to vent your anger it. Its not like the BCS people shrugging their shoulders and saying "The computer told us to do it...what choice did we have?"
 
Using computers was a complete joke. After every debacle it would get tweaked to a formula that would include the 2 teams everyone felt shoulda made it...the unattainable hope was to fix the computers enough so they can think like humans do...ok? why not let humans pick the teams in the first place then.
 
The problem wasn't the computer rankings, the problem was the people involved. The computer rankings had been around for decades before the BCS and actually do a very good job of predicting spreads and the like. But the BCS demanded they change the formula for the BCS to not include things like Margin of Victory. So people bastardize the formula, then complain when the formula is sometimes askew. Sangarin even admitted that he would never use the rankings he gives the BCS for anything else because it is so different than his actual formula.

Another problem lies in the use of the Coaches Poll. Coaches purposely put teams far below where they should be ranked in order to help out themselves or their conference. After that, they voted to keep their votes private! How much more biased can you get?
 
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4 teams, ..2 years from now?

it will take for ever to get to a lousy 8 teams that would actually be more meaningful and include other conferences
 
It's now official. At least from 2014-2035, we are having a college football playoff.

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- A four-team playoff for college football has been formally approved by a presidential oversight committee, a dramatic change for the sport that will begin in 2014 and continue through the 2025 season. The four teams will be chosen by a selection committee, the semifinals will be held at current bowl sites and the national championship game will be awarded to the highest bidder.


The 11 conference commissioners watched on Tuesday afternoon as Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick presented their proposal to a board of 12 university presidents at the Dupont Circle Hotel. In less than three hours, the group agreed upon a postseason that college football fans have been clamoring for years.




The group of presidents also endorsed a rotation of the semifinal games among six bowl sites and a rotation of the championship game among neutral sites. The semifinals either will be played on New Year's Eve or New Year's Day, and the national title game will be played on "Championship Monday," the first Monday in January that is six or more days after the final semifinal game is played.


"A four-team playoff doesn't go too far; it goes just the right amount," said Virginia Tech president Charles Sterger, chair of the presidential oversight committee. "We are very pleased with this arrangement even though some issues & remain to be finalized."


There will be three contract bowls -- the Champions Bowl, which is a partnership between the Big 12 and SEC, the Rose Bowl, which has a longstanding tradition between the Big Ten and Pac 12, and a bowl to be determined for the ACC, which is likely to continue its partnership with the Orange Bowl.


"In terms of our contract bowl, and our New Year's Day tie-in, we expect to have an announcement on that jointly in the very near future," Swofford said.


The three other bowls, called "access bowls," have yet to be determined, but the decision will force the Sugar Bowl and Fiesta Bowl to become bidders.


Tuesday's decision possibly could squeeze the Big East out of the postseason, as its champion is no longer guaranteed a spot in one of the six major bowls. The "automatic qualifiers" label also will disappear in the new system and those programs will have no guaranteed access to the new structure. Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby called it an "open marketplace for all schools."


Also not involved in the automatic postseason picture is the Mountain West Conference, which did not receive a waiver to automatically qualify for the next two years.


Football Bowl Association executive director Wright Waters said in a statement that, "today is the beginning of an exciting time in the future of college football and we are committed to continuing the rich tradition of the bowls."


The championship game will be managed by the conferences and will not be branded as a bowl game. The presidents also announced the creation of a selection committee that will rank the teams to play in the playoff, "giving all the teams an equal opportunity to participate." The committee will consider win-loss record, strength of schedule, head-to-head results and whether a team is a conference champion.


The two main topics that still need further discussion are how teams will be selected and how revenue will be distributed. The commissioners have agreed in principle as to how the revenue will be divided, according to Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, but that has not been made public yet. The commissioners also still need to decide a name for the playoff.


The decision is subject to passage of appropriate legislation by the NCAA Board of Directors to permit the two semifinal winners to play an additional postseason game.
ACC commissioner John Swofford called it "a milestone" for college football.


"The access for conferences throughout the FBS is going to be better in this system than the current system," he said. "That's an important part of this. But you have to play your way in. That's a plus."
 
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