Randy moss available *claimed by Titans*

[bucky]

I have decency issues because I don't care if Randy Moss is a fucking asshole? Ummmmmmm......ok. I also don't care that Brett Favre is a faggot ass drama queen. I guess that's MY problem too.

If you accept that kind of behavior, then I would say yes you do. You're exhibiting some of it here in this thread.

If they waived him because of character issues then Brad Childress is the dumbest motherfucker to ever walk the planet let alone coach a football team.

The non-acceptance of huge character issues isn't what makes Chile a bad coach. That Chile didn't like how Moss treated the caterers is one of the few things I like about the coach.

Randy Moss having character issues isn't newsworthy, it's a fucking daily event. Who the fuck did he think he was getting?

It's newsworthy when trying to explain why he was waived. Why is that so hard to understand? And character/chemistry is important in the locker room and does help in a teams success.

I see, so I'm sure there was no public knowledge of this restaurant catering the team. Nothing like "official caterer of the Shitfest Vikings"? There is always a benefit to doing things for a professional football team. I'm sure there are a zillion Minneapolis eateries that would kill to cater the Vikings.

It doesn't make it OK for players, coaches, trainers and any other employee of the team to treat them with such incredible disrespect. And it isn't a privilege, it's a business arrangement. Both the team and the caterer benefit.

I can tell you one thing....the third round pick they gave up is going to be happy as shit that he's in New England and not Minnesota.

One of the few things we seem to agree on.

Good Night dude.

 

[Cornelius]

If you accept that kind of behavior, then I would say yes you do. You're exhibiting some of it here in this thread.

I didn't say I accepted it. Do you understand the difference between caring and indifference?

The non-acceptance of huge character issues isn't what makes Chile a bad coach. That Chile didn't like how Moss treated the caterers is one of the few things I like about the coach.

How do we even know he gives a shit about what happened at the caterers? All I saw was a clip of some dolt from ESPN interviewing and plugging that guy's restaurant. "Chile" would be much more respected if he didn't let Favre run the team and if he never traded for Moss in the first place. It would be like Marvin Lewis cutting all the problem children in Cinci suddenly because he was appalled at their behavior.

It's newsworthy when trying to explain why he was waived. Why is that so hard to understand? And character/chemistry is important in the locker room and does help in a teams success.

Not really. I'm sure the press conference and Brad Childress being an idiot weighed a lot heavier than some meaningless catered dinner.

It doesn't make it OK for players, coaches, trainers and any other employee of the team to treat them with such incredible disrespect. And it isn't a privilege, it's a business arrangement. Both the team and the caterer benefit.

I never said it did. I just think it's a money grab by the business owners at this point. The business arrangement is heavily in favor of the caterer. Like I said, any restaurant in the area could provide food.

 

[Cornelius]

Wow.

It was bad enough when Favre ran the Vikings and had his own cable sports network.... now he runs his own country?..

Yes, Favre being Favre makes babies cry and Miners get trapped under the ground.

 

[Cornelius]

He's just having fun out there...

10 stitches in his jaw fun!

 

[BigHouseUSA]

He looks like a kid in a candy store.

 

[Sigona]

Send him back to NE so he can visit Revis Island again.

 

[Nukleopatra]

From what I hear, the food in St. Louis is really (expletive) bad, too.

So, stay the (expletive) away, Randy.

 

[citizenerased]

Send him back to NE so he can visit Revis Island again.

Nah, better not, wouldn't want Revis to injure himself while getting styled on again.

 

[bucky]

I didn't say I accepted it. Do you understand the difference between caring and indifference?

Indifference is acceptance. I don't want to upset or disrespect our Black members of VSN, and I hope this example isn't out of line, but indifference to slavery was acceptance (so apologies if this offends anyone). You do nothing or feel nothing about it, or how Blacks were treated back in my day, then you were part of the problem, and indifference did/does become a level of acceptance. I mean, that stuff happened every day when I lived through the 60's.

How do we even know he gives a shit about what happened at the caterers?

I think the article inferred that he did, but whether Chile really did or not doesn't excuse Moss from acting out like that, and we as a society shouldn't accept it. I don't care how many touchdowns the guy can catch.

All I saw was a clip of some dolt from ESPN interviewing and plugging that guy's restaurant

I guess we just see things very differently. Appears you're into the "blame the victim" mentality.

"Chile" would be much more respected if he didn't let Favre run the team and if he never traded for Moss in the first place.

Completely agree.

I just think it's a money grab by the business owners at this point. The business arrangement is heavily in favor of the caterer. Like I said, any restaurant in the area could provide food.

It benefits both sides. The team gets good food (at least most of the team thinks so), and the team gets to build good will in the community by reaching out to the local businesses. More good will in the community sells more jersey's and tickets. The caterer gets paid and can put the experience on there resume. Benefits both party's. Unless some insensitive jerk goes off on the caterers and makes the team look bad.

 

[Blade]

Via Twitter:

Adam_Schefter: Potential destinations: Randy Moss -- St. Louis, Oakland, Tennessee. Shawne Merriman -- SF, Miami, Baltimore. But we'll see after 4 pm ET.

 

[dope]

Somewhere Dope is looking for a long rope and a tall tree, or a bottle full of pills. Hope that guy is doing OK.

I may not like Minny or Dallas, but I do feel for fans like Rayman and Dope.

I actually pretty numb to this, we've long had a history of failing to meet expectations even with an abundance of talent so i'm pretty used to this happening.

only thing that sucks is its just so confusing as to what the fuck is going on inside the organization, you just have to question almost every move they've made since the nfccg.

the season is lost (well maybe not completely, but we lose sunday it is) so i'd like to see jackson get the start from here on out. is he better than favre? nope. but who fucking cares, we all know favre's not coming back next year, he's fucked his legacy up with the way he's played this year, not to mention his sexting scandal, so it's time to see what the fuck jackson can do.

has he benefited from sitting behind favre the past year and a half? why not find out when the season is lost. they'd have to win out to have a chance at the playoffs, and even then they'd probably be bounced in the first round. so in reality it doesn't make sense to start favre cause he gives you the best chance to win.

the team has talent on the offense, so lets see what jackson can do with it. if he shows he's a shitty qb still (which we all know he is) then they know NOW instead of waiting around till next year to see if he's improved.

 

[ralaw]

I agree dope, because if Jackson isn't the answer than they could at least go after Vick or McNabb. However, I have a hard time seeing Favre let them bench him at the expense of his record.

 

[bucky]

I agree dope, because if Jackson isn't the answer than they could at least go after Vick or McNabb. However, I have a hard time seeing Favre let them bench him at the expense of his record.

I don't think Philly lets Vick go. I think the McNabb scenario is more likely, but what do I know.

 

[ralaw]

I don't think Philly lets Vick go. I think the McNabb scenario is more likely, but what do I know.

I can see them letting Vick go, because Vick is in the last year of his contract and is going to want a lot of money...he's 30 and injury prone. On the other hand Kolb is younger, just signed a big contract and has proven that he can be a solid QB when properly prepared. Going into the season Reid had visions of Kolb grooming with his other young stars in Jackson, Maclin, McCoy, Celek, etc in hopes that they could develop into a very, very solid offensive core and I don't see that changing.

 

[dope]

However, I have a hard time seeing Favre let them bench him at the expense of his record.

I was really hoping favre broke his jaw on sunday. i thought he might have the way he was not talking or moving it on the sidelines. then we'd have no other option but to start jackson.

 

[bucky]

I can see them letting Vick go, because Vick is in the last year of his contract and is going to want a lot of money...he's 30 and injury prone. On the other hand Kolb is younger, just signed a big contract and has proven that he can be a solid QB when properly prepared. Going into the season Reid had visions of Kolb grooming with his other young stars in Jackson, Maclin, McCoy, Celek, etc in hopes that they could develop into a very, very solid offensive core and I don't see that changing.

If that's true, I think you would see Reid going with Kolb now instead of Vick. I see a possible Kolb trade. Then Philly doesn't have Kolbs big contract that he just signed. But like I said, what do I know.

 

[bucky]

I was really hoping favre broke his jaw on sunday. i thought he might have the way he was not talking or moving it on the sidelines. then we'd have no other option but to start jackson.

Dope, where have you been? You're one of the few Vikings fans that I like.

 

[dope]

meh i've been here, i've been quiet about the season cause i honestly didn't think we'd recreate what happened last year. there were just to many questions coming into the season, not to mention the improvement of the packers. didn't help we had what looked to be a tough schedule compared to the cakewalk we had last year.

all in all i was very apprehensive about this season, and watching it blow up in such terrific fashion has left me very lethargic.

 

[shag773]

If that's true, I think you would see Reid going with Kolb now instead of Vick. I see a possible Kolb trade. Then Philly doesn't have Kolbs big contract that he just signed. But like I said, what do I know.

I think Kolb is still the long term plan for Reid. Once the NFC East became winnable, he went with Vick after seeing how well he played in Detroit. Vick has experience and is playing the best football of his career, but I would doubt the Birds shell out the big contract to a 31 year old injury prone QB. It's not their style.

 

[Mogriffjr]

Supposedly moss met with members of the jets yesterday...

But I question the validity of this. It's a big story on this jets website....yet a Jets insider says the jets did not put a claim in on Moss...unless he cleared waivers.