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Samuel Jacob Bradford

This thread is a microcosm of why NFL discussion sucks here. Someone starts a thread about Sam Bradford, and we immediately get:

- dave suggesting the Rams trade Bradford if they get the #1 pick
- BigBucs randomly talking about Josh Freeman

No thread in this subforum is complete without irrational opinions being brought forth by dave and irrational knobslobbing of Josh Freeman brought forth by BigBucs.
 
I was going to come in here and go to bat for Bradford and explain why its not even remotely his fault, but W2B did that for me.

The more pressing stat you should take from that is the 2 INTs and how remarkable it is that he hasnt turned the ball over more considering his weapons and his Oline, altho I am sure thats PARTLY attributed to Spagnola calling the most conservative games imaginable.
 
This thread is a microcosm of why NFL discussion sucks here. Someone starts a thread about Sam Bradford, and we immediately get:

- dave suggesting the Rams trade Bradford if they get the #1 pick
- BigBucs randomly talking about Josh Freeman

No thread in this subforum is complete without irrational opinions being brought forth by dave and irrational knobslobbing of Josh Freeman brought forth by BigBucs.

Go dick ride Freeman in another thread... maybe one about the Bucs? - Hass
 
Here's a question:

If St. Louis gets the #1 pick in next year's draft, should they trade Sam Bradford and drop the last insane rookie contract pre-lockout?

As crazy as it sounds, I think they should. Andrew Luck looks like a no-brainer and Miami would give up multiple picks for Bradford.

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Dave. Stop.

Bradford is 23.. if the Rams fall into the #1 pick they can trade that pick for a kings ransom and add a lot of key pieces on both sides of the ball.

Cam Newton looks great in Carolina and they've won 1 game. It takes more than a QB to be fully successful, the Rams have a franchise guy - they need to build the team now.

It starts with a coaching change IMO, as Spags just isn't cut to be a head coach in this league.. and W2B can better explain everything else.

But giving up on Bradford 21 games into his career is hilarious.
 
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Dave. Stop.

Bradford is 23.. if the Rams fall into the #1 pick they can trade that pick for a kings ransom and add a lot of key pieces on both sides of the ball.

Cam Newton looks great in Carolina and they've won 1 game. It takes more than a QB to be fully successful, the Rams have a franchise guy - they need to build the team now.

It starts with a coaching change IMO, as Spags just isn't cut to be a head coach in this league.. and W2B can better explain everything else.

But giving up on Bradford 21 games into his career is hilarious.

I didn't say they should ... I asked if they should.
 
This thread is a microcosm of why NFL discussion sucks here. Someone starts a thread about Sam Bradford, and we immediately get:

- dave suggesting the Rams trade Bradford if they get the #1 pick
- BigBucs randomly talking about Josh Freeman

No thread in this subforum is complete without irrational opinions being brought forth by dave and irrational knobslobbing of Josh Freeman brought forth by BigBucs.

Lets not forget Giants fans sticking up for Spags. I dont understand how WTB can hate and blame the guy so much. Fact is injuries has decimated this team.
 
Lets not forget Giants fans sticking up for Spags. I dont understand how WTB can hate and blame the guy so much. Fact is injuries has decimated this team.

I'll tell you why I blame him so much.

This is Year #3 of the Spags regime. The team has not gotten any better since Year #1, when they went 1-15. No improvement in three years in unacceptable.

Forget the 0-5 record. I can live with losses if there is progress. It's the way they lose. There is zero progress. They get blown out every week. There are no "moral victories", they simply get embarrassed week in, week out. Same dumb penalties, same drops, same sloppy play...

You can blame the players if you want, and that's fine. But that's on Spags, too. He has roster control (why a first time head coach with no track record has so much power is beyond my understanding, but that's a different issue), and these are his players. There are roughly only a half dozen players remaining from the Linehan Rams. He picked these guys. His triad of ex-Giants bums (Fred Robbins, Craig Dahl, James Butler) who all stink, to washouts and failures like Jason Smith and Mike Sims-Walker, and FA failures like Ben Leber. The Rams have no talent, and that's on Spags.

His game management is a flat out joke. He has no grasp of time management or how to use time outs. He gave up and quit against the Giants Week 2 by punting on a 4th down with over two minutes left and no timeouts in a two score game (which should have gotten him fired). Tom Coughlin promptly had Eli take three knees to end the game. On just about any 3rd and 10 or longer, the Rams go to the patented Spags "give up run", which he obviously is calling for because we all know Josh McDaniels is NOT conservative, and it was the same under Pat Shurmur. Three years is too long to still be lost on the sideline. The man simply doesn't get it, and likely never will.

No talent, sloppy play, bad game management. What exactly does this guy bring to the table? Why shouldn't I be all over him? What has improved or gotten better since the Linehan era? Nothing.

Scott Linehan was a joke who nobody thought was a good coach. Spags constantly gets a pass and for some odd reason never catches blame. Here are the facts, through 36 games:

Linehan: 11-25
Spags: 8-28 (now 8-29)

Steve Spagnuolo is a nice man, but he's a terrible head coach and he needs to be fired. Let's face facts, if not for this play...

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...Spags never snifs a head coach job, and is probably coaching DB's somewhere. His entire reputation was built on David Tyree making a circus catch.
 
This thread is a microcosm of why NFL discussion sucks here. Someone starts a thread about Sam Bradford, and we immediately get:

- dave suggesting the Rams trade Bradford if they get the #1 pick
- BigBucs randomly talking about Josh Freeman

No thread in this subforum is complete without irrational opinions being brought forth by dave and irrational knobslobbing of Josh Freeman brought forth by BigBucs.

I think we should just ban dave. He sucks.
 
And Hass is still a bitch :yao: Haters gonna hate. Did you really go outta your way to edit my post. A new level of bitchassness has reared its head.
No it's called.. shut the fuck up about Josh Freeman because no one fucking cares. I let you have the first two posts, three is overkill.

If this thread were a direct comparison of Freeman to Bradford then.. whatever.. aside from that, it's pointless and a clear attempt (weak attempt) to troll W2B.

Now kindly
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Eh, you're pretty hard on Spags W2B. Fact is, his defense was very good for that 2nd half/playoff run, and held down that dynamic, record-breaking Pats offense for 4 quarters. His name was already being brought up in HC jobs, much like Rod Marinelli before he went to the Lions. Problem was, he wasn't any good at that job....like Marinelli. Spags became a hot coaching prospect before that catch.
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Bradford is still the best QB in the NFC West. Rams should try to trade down, a lot of teams are going to be willing to mortgage their squad for Luck. Draft Blackmon to be your #1. Draft an o-line.
 
Eh, you're pretty hard on Spags W2B. Fact is, his defense was very good for that 2nd half/playoff run, and held down that dynamic, record-breaking Pats offense for 4 quarters. His name was already being brought up in HC jobs, much like Rod Marinelli before he went to the Lions. Problem was, he wasn't any good at that job....like Marinelli. Spags became a hot coaching prospect before that catch.
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Unfortunately all that doesnt make him any less of a terrible head coach, even if he was in line for a job before the SB run. Dude is fucking AWFUL as a head coach.
 
No it's called.. shut the fuck up about Josh Freeman because no one fucking cares. I let you have the first two posts, three is overkill.

If this thread were a direct comparison of Freeman to Bradford then.. whatever.. aside from that, it's pointless and a clear attempt (weak attempt) to troll W2B.

Now kindly
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Please shut the fuck up. :yao: @ I let you have your 1st two. Take your dumb ass over to OS if you wanna act like a bitch. And of course I was trolling W2B, tit for tat faggot. Go monitor some of his bullshit post when he is doing the same. Was simply too much realness in my post for you to deal with.

Raheem in his 3rd season hasnt hit a wall :smugrussell:

Freeman in his sophmore season didnt start off 0-5 :smugrussell:

Freeman wasnt taken with the 1st pick in the draft and is looking like some ass :smugrussell:

People say Freeman didnt have shit as far as weapons go last season but he still put up gawdy numbers :smugrussell:

Suck my dick faggot :dealwithit:
 
I know St Louis didn't win the division but that sophmore slump that successful rookies go through is perfectly normal. It has happened countless times. Bradfords rookie year, they were 1-15 and got to play other last place teams, but once he put together wins against those shitty teams, he finished 2nd and now is playing a little bit tougher competition. I fully expect this to happen to the Lions next season with Stafford. We are going to overachieve this season and wind up with a lot tougher schedule and Stafford most likely wills struggle. That third and fourth year as a full time starter is the real grading point for a QB.

Roethlisberger is one of the rare exceptions to this rule, but he also had a dynamite defense with a stout rushing attack, where a lot of QBS succeed. Its exactly how Mark Sanchez has overachieved.
 
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