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Seahawks beat packers

Did you not predict that one Nostradamus?

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That was just as bad as the Calvin Johnson non TD catch.

OH shut up. Human mistakes by veterans of a craft once in a while is one thing but you see the havoc reaked on the field for all 4 quarters now. Players are beating the crap out of each other. Ignoring and manipulating the refs at the same time. The refs are tunnel visioned and unorganized and scared. This is a freaking joke !
 
This is a Packer-biased view, but the refs made the wrong call. It was not "simultaneous catching", because the Packer DB clearly had the ball first. There was no "simultaneous" action. I knew it was bad when the refs waited to make any call at all, because at that point, in the mass of bodies, 3 Seahawk players could all be grabbing at the ball. If the refs wait to see "who has the ball" in that situation, its always going to be an alleged "simultaneous catch" because its too easy for the offensive player to simply wrap his arms around the defensive player and claim he also caught the ball. Its like the refs seeing a player fall on a fumble, not doing anything, letting a pile ensue, then trying to dig through the pile to see who has the ball. If you aren't going to make the correct call in the first place, you are leaving it up to chance.

What I didn't like about the call was that not only did the Packer player clearly have the ball first, it seemed pretty clear to me that Tate let go of the ball as he was coming down, then re-grabbed the ball when he hit the ground, but at that point the Packer DBs body had turned so all Tate could do was reach his arms around the Packers DB body.

That said, I would like to end with 3 things:

*The Packers played terrible, especially on offense, and Bulaga did his best JWebb impersonation while McCarthy was channeling his Mike Martz by not running the ball until the 2nd half.

*The NFL rulebook is so overly wrought with verbose technicalities, that I think it really hinders the ref's ability to make proper judgement calls. Its like there is always some rule that trumps common sense. Every game appears to be a repeat of the Tuck Rule or the Calvin Johnson non-catch.

*Everyone bitches about the replacement refs, but I think there is a pretty good possibility that the 'real' refs made the same bad call in last night's game. The NFL has too many rules, and replay has its limitations.
 
This is a Packer-biased view, but the refs made the wrong call. It was not "simultaneous catching", because the Packer DB clearly had the ball first. There was no "simultaneous" action. I knew it was bad when the refs waited to make any call at all, because at that point, in the mass of bodies, 3 Seahawk players could all be grabbing at the ball. If the refs wait to see "who has the ball" in that situation, its always going to be an alleged "simultaneous catch" because its too easy for the offensive player to simply wrap his arms around the defensive player and claim he also caught the ball. Its like the refs seeing a player fall on a fumble, not doing anything, letting a pile ensue, then trying to dig through the pile to see who has the ball. If you aren't going to make the correct call in the first place, you are leaving it up to chance.

What I didn't like about the call was that not only did the Packer player clearly have the ball first, it seemed pretty clear to me that Tate let go of the ball as he was coming down, then re-grabbed the ball when he hit the ground, but at that point the Packer DBs body had turned so all Tate could do was reach his arms around the Packers DB body.

That said, I would like to end with 3 things:

*The Packers played terrible, especially on offense, and Bulaga did his best JWebb impersonation while McCarthy was channeling his Mike Martz by not running the ball until the 2nd half.

*The NFL rulebook is so overly wrought with verbose technicalities, that I think it really hinders the ref's ability to make proper judgement calls. Its like there is always some rule that trumps common sense. Every game appears to be a repeat of the Tuck Rule or the Calvin Johnson non-catch.

*Everyone bitches about the replacement refs, but I think there is a pretty good possibility that the 'real' refs made the same bad call in last night's game. The NFL has too many rules, and replay has its limitations.

Bro, it works like this... DB caught the ball... WR caught the DB. Obvious TD is obvious. He controled the DB through falling to the ground.
 
I'm running into a brick wall over on CCS about this, but here is the rule to anyone who is interested:

NFL’s Simultaneous Catch Rule


Rule 8, Section1, Article 3, Item 5

If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both retain it, the ball belongs to the passers.

It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control.


Its obvious to me that the refs blew the call, because the intent of the rule is pretty clear. If there is no "simultaneous" action at the beginning of the catch process, the offensive player can't merely wrap his arms around the ball after the fact and claim "simultaneous catch".
 
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