Shaq Retires

[Senser81]

Does that mean you'd rank him over Shaq?

In his prime, yes. For the life of a career, no.

 

[Primetime]

I was just about to say that Malone played forever. The guy's career spanned 3 decades.

So did Shaq's :shifty:

 

[spiker]

So did Shaq's :shifty:

I did, didn't it. Just barely. I should have just said Malone played 3 or 4 more years than Shaq.

 

[Dan The Man]

Shaq during that 3Peat was from another planet...

2000 vs Indy- 38.0 ppg 16.7 rpg 2.7 blks 61.1% FG

2001 vs Philly- 33.0 pts 15.8 rebs 4.8 ast 3.4 blks

2002 vs NJ- 36.3 pts 12.3 rebs 3.8 ast 2.8 blks

 

[Primetime]

Shaq during that 3Peat was from another planet...

2000 vs Indy- 38.0 ppg 16.7 rpg 2.7 blks 61.1% FG

2001 vs Philly- 33.0 pts 15.8 rebs 4.8 ast 3.4 blks

2002 vs NJ- 36.3 pts 12.3 rebs 3.8 ast 2.8 blks

"You're welcome Kobe."

:yep:

 

[FedEx227]

So did Shaq's :shifty:

The point is Malone had 200 more career games then Shaq, so it's not that unlikely or shocking that he'd have more total points.

 

[Dan The Man]

He was also able to dive into the crowd multiple times without killing anyone and for that he should be praised.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPVThz3QS44&feature=BFa&list=PLD7552ABC4D7557BB&index=11[/ame]

 

[Primetime]

The point is Malone had 200 more career games then Shaq, so it's not that unlikely or shocking that he'd have more total points.

I was just being an asshole...I got his point.

 

[FedEx227]

I don't know if I necessarily agree with the lazy part. Was he as skilled in the post as Hakeem or Kareem, no... but it certainly didn't make him less dominant, he really didn't have to learn all those skills. He was what he was, he was an imposing, brute force center. Just because he didn't learn how to do a step-back fade away doesn't make him lazy...

He had a good jump hook and there wasn't a player in the NBA that could defend him once he got position on the block.

 

[bucky]

I don't know if I necessarily agree with the lazy part

He was lazy.

but it certainly didn't make him less dominant, he really didn't have to learn all those skills.

When I watched him play, back when I was a fan of his, I couldn't believe he didn't foul out within the first 5 minutes of every game. He was the definition of superstars getting calls (or really non-offensive fouls). I was uber disappointed that he wasn't forced to actually learn basketball skills. The only fouls were the hack-a-shack fouls that made Shaq disappear at the end of games, cause he couldn't make a free throw.

he was an imposing, brute force center.

That's exactly what he was. Brute force.

He had a good jump hook and there wasn't a player in the NBA that could defend him once he got position on the block.

Not until later in his career. And that's pretty much all he had. Early in his career, all he really had was a dunk.

Brute force and the league wanting to promote him made him dominate in his prime. He was lazy. He could have been the GOAT. I quickly became very disappointed.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The GOAT.

Most dominant center.
The Lord of the Rings.

Maybe my favorite athlete of all-time, legit.

 

[Juggernaut]

top 5 in my opinion.

 

[nflman2033]

Top 5 Centers

1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Hakeem Olajuwon
5. Shaquille O'Neal

This order looks right to me.

 

[Sharkweather]

No George Mikan on these lists?

 

[KNUBB]

The Big Aristotle

 

[AJay]

He kept AI from getting his ring and for that I've always hated the fat fuck. Can't deny how unstoppable he was down-low during his Laker years. You could double and triple team the guy and he'd still slam it home.

How could a video not be posted yet either.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgs4X4hQWAs&feature=related[/ame]

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Top 5 Centers

1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Hakeem Olajuwon
5. Shaquille O'Neal

He's first ballot HOF but I don't think he's a Top 10 NBA player of all time. Top 20 probably.

This is my thought.. would be hard pressed to put Shaq in my top 10.. top 15-20 for sure, I cant really argue any of those 4 Centers being ahead of Shaq.

 

[Tailback U]

Superbly dominant. Top 10 all time no doubt in my mind.

I wouldn't call him lazy, either. He was awesome with the Magic but so young. How many young dominant players come into the league and win championships right away?

As he matured, you saw him get better and make his teammates better.

And unless you've played with him or know what it's like to be 7+ feet tall and 300+ pounds and play a professional sport then you have no idea if the guy was lazy or not.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I dont even know where the lazy shit stems from.. I see no reason to believe Shaq was lazy, he couldnt have been all that much more dominant without keeping the rest of his team involved. Shaq is a pretty damn good passer for a man that large aswell.

 

[Herm]

I remember opening a pack of cards as a 10 year old and being ecstatic when i saw this....

I was a Hakeem fan but Shaq was amazing to watch in the 90s