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lol at saying his role was easy to do. So anyone could have been thrown into his role and the movie would be fine, no problamo. I hate when people say that. Hes not really overrated theres a reason Nolan picked him as Batman and chose to stay with him for The Pretiege. Really the only thing hes done wrong is Terminator Salvation but thats because the movie overall was complete shit.
 
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Come on. I'll give you the rest but The Newsies was a fucking lame plot combined with poor acting all around. It bombed in the box office, and Bale was NOT good in it. His singing was absolutely horrendous and his Brooklyn accent he tried to put on was a total failure.
 
Sauceman, you forgot Rescue Dawn. Not only was Bale good in that one but Steve Zahn, the comedic actor, showed off some skills.

 
When he got his head chopped off, i sat in shock
 
LOL @ you posting his diet when I specifically said:

The Machinist is a good movie, but don't let Christian Bale's appearance fool you into thinking he did an amazing acting job. Acting wise, his role wasn't that difficult to play, and if there's one thing Bale can play it's a very quiet serious dude with anger/mental problems.
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If Bale wasn't rail thin, would anyone have even thought his performance in the Machinist was that good? I know I wouldn't. Nothing about his acting jumped out at me, he's played that type of role before, he was just rail thin so everyone thinks he did an amazing acting job, which is stupid.

Sauceman said:
Yeah that doesn't seem very difficult to do. And it's not like he's been in some excellent movies where his performances were praised such as:

Newsies
American Psycho
Equilibrium
The Machinist
The Prestige
3:10 to Yuma
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What was great about his characters in any of these movies outside of American Psycho? None of them were jawbreaking or extraordinary. He plays a serious, sinister, somewhat quiet and angry character in each of these movies other than American Psycho. There is no range in his acting.
And other excellent films such as:

Batman Begins
The Dark Night
Public Enemies
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Again, a very serious, monotonous character in each of these. Little emotion showed in any of these roles. He is average when it comes to on-screen emotion. And Public Enemies was shitty.
 
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Well yeah, obviously you wouldn't. But what's your explanation for this 'most overrated actor of all time' being in so many great films...despite him? I'd think if he was mediocre these roles would have gone to someone else. And no one here said his range parallels the likes of Di Caprio or Depp. However, is he a great actor? I certainly think so and see no proof to feel otherwise.
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So many great films? According to who? Certainly not me.

American Psycho was definitely great - one of my favorite films.

Batman Begins was great. Bale did a solid job here.

The Dark Knight can be considered great by some - not by me - and only because of Heath Ledger, not Bale.

Not to mention, Bale is not even close to being the best Batman ever. Those movies are great because of the story. The fact that Bale is literally hiding behind a mask and a costume for the majority of the movie proves that those movies were good despite him - definitely not because of him. Honestly, in my opinion, he was a shitty Bruce Wayne. He lacks the charisma, arrogance, and wit that Bruce Wayne should have. As Batman, who gives a fuck. He was behind a mask and grumbled all his parts. Anybody can do that.

I was exaggerating with "most overrated actor of all time." I moreso meant that Bale has no range and lacks any on screen charisma, wit, and humor. He can play one role and one role only.

Bale is very limited in what he can do. He picks and chooses his roles very carefully and it's important he does so or he will be exposed. Hell, Hugh Jackman was the star of the Prestige, and Russell Crowe of 3:10 to Yuma. Bale can only play a serious role with little to no real emotion.

How can you call an actor who lacks range a "great" actor? A great actor, in my opinion, has range and personality. Bale has none, therefore there is no way I can think of him as a great actor.

Bale probably wouldn't even make my top 10 actors, yet I hear so many people calling him a great actor and one of the best actors out there.

Lastly, nobody can prove anything. This is all preference. You have yours, I have mine. We can agree to disagree and it's all fine by me.
 
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I decided to go ahead and come up with a list of actors I think are better than Christian Bale.

Brad Pitt
Tom Cruise
George Clooney
Robert Downey Jr.
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Leonardo DiCaprio
Jack Nicholson
Denzel Washington
Meryl Streep
Russell Crowe
Sean Penn
William Hurt
Daniel Day Lewis
Johnny Depp
Mel Gibson
Kevin Spacey
John Malkovich

This is right off the top of my head so I'm sure I'm leaving other people out. There are others like Morgan Freeman, Bruce Willis, Matt Damon, Samuel L., etc. that I think are more talented than Bale but don't grab me like the guys mentioned above do.
 
Just saw it. Creepy movie, wouldn't really recommend it but I suppose it was worth seeing. Nothing we haven't seen from DiCaprio or Scorsese.
 
Tailback U said:
I decided to go ahead and come up with a list of actors I think are better than Christian Bale.

Brad Pitt
Tom Cruise
George Clooney
Robert Downey Jr.
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Leonardo DiCaprio
Jack Nicholson
Denzel Washington
Meryl Streep
Russell Crowe
Sean Penn
William Hurt
Daniel Day Lewis
Johnny Depp
Mel Gibson
Kevin Spacey
John Malkovich

This is right off the top of my head so I'm sure I'm leaving other people out. There are others like Morgan Freeman, Bruce Willis, Matt Damon, Samuel L., etc. that I think are more talented than Bale but don't grab me like the guys mentioned above do.
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THANK YOU FOR A GREAT LAUGH, havent laughed that hard in a while.
 
Just got back, thought it was really well done. Freaky, mind fuck of a movie.

 
The ending is subject to interpretation, but basically he relapsed and needs a lobotomy. Some speculate he fakes the relapse so he won't have to live with the memory of what he and his wife have done. Hence the line at the end: "is it better to live as a monster or die a good man?"
 
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about the ending

 
This is just my opinion and I havent read the book so I could be wrong.

He said the line "I dont know whats worse, to live on as a monster or die a hero"

When he says that and walks away, I got out of it that he knows hes Andrew and that he made up Teddy, but he'd rather pretend hes Teddy "the hero" and basically die from the lombotomy(since it basically destroys everything about you hence like death) then live on as Andrew knowing he had killed his wife for drowning there kids.

Speaking of the kids though, when he came home and realizes what happened, I actually couldnt breathe for a few seconds cause I started thinking what i would have done in that situation. leo played it good.
 
I haven't seen it yet... Some dude said he doesn't know shit from the previews... To those who have seen it... Is this accurate? :

 
Cop is sent to investigate the disappearance of 'criminally insane' woman. She 'alludes' to their being an extra patient at this hospital... He takes some drugs during his investigation that cause him to hallucinate... The nurses and doctors and clerks are in on some sort of poisoning of the patients or something of the sort...

I still want to see it, though. Wanna fill-in the pieces.
 
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My opinion helped formed by hedgi is that he doesn't know whether it happened or not but he couldn't deal with the pain if he was a monster.
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You guys are looking too far into it. He definitely went through what happened in the flashback, it's foreshadowed throughout the movie. The only thing that is unclear is whether or not he is aware that he's not Teddy at the end.
 
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I haven't seen it yet... Some dude said he doesn't know shit from the previews... To those who have seen it... Is this accurate? :

 
Cop is sent to investigate the disappearance of 'criminally insane' woman. She 'alludes' to their being an extra patient at this hospital... He takes some drugs during his investigation that cause him to hallucinate... The nurses and doctors and clerks are in on some sort of poisoning of the patients or something of the sort...

I still want to see it, though. Wanna fill-in the pieces.
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Kind of.... There is much more to the movie than that though.
 
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I would hope so. I can't stand movies where you see the whole thing in a damned preview...
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I thought I figured it out from the trailer too, but believe me, what you posted is maybe 5% of the actual plot. There's a lot more in depth of an explanation.

And even if you do figure it out, just enjoy it, it's still Marty f'n Scorcese. I'm tired of people getting so caught up in guessing plot twists, and focusing less on the execution of said plot twist.

The whole "ZOMG didn't see that coming!" gimmick that M. Night ushered in with Sixth Sense has made moviegoers less savvy. Instead of just enjoying a film for what it is, they focus more on playing Guess Who and Clue all movie long.

We had these super annoying 12-year old kids behind us trying to dissect and analyze the whole movie. I told them to quiet down like 5 times. Then when the lights come on, I see they were with their dad the whole time. First of all, what kind of dad brings their kids to a rated R psycho thriller by Marty Scorcese, second of all, what kind of dad lets their kids talk through an entire movie?

I should've slapped some theater etiquette into his spoiled brats right then and there.
 
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Great movie, it really matched up to the book well. I don't have many criticisms, Leo over acted at times, the score was horrible and over dramatic, but Leo gave a good performance and Scorcese kept the movie tense and suspenseful. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie even though I knew the ending.
 
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