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Stoudemire won't be traded to the Cavs, but this thread is still very lulzworthy.

Oh yeah, because Brook Lopez going 23 and 14(8 offensive) is really cancelled out. Shaq went 7 and 8 that game.

Or David Lee getting 20 and 8 while Shaq got 19 and 1

Or DeAndre FUCKING Jordan outrebounding Shaq by 5.

Need I go on?

I was more talking about when Shaq was on the floor...notice those players above are all on joke teams. You wanna bust out stats like that, then lets see how much they played that game. I bet Shaq played half of what David Lee and Brook Lopez did.
 
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Lets review...Suns do a run n gun offense. Cleveland is mostly a half-court offense. Suns dont play defense...Cleveland is one of (if not THE) best defensive teams in the league. So what they did in Phoenix together has NOTHING to do with what they will do together in Cleveland. (I say will because it seems like this is gonna get done--whether its Phoenix getting Hickson or Philly getting Hickson and Phoenix getting Iggy.

Also I dont think Amare will be a liability on defense. Players (like Mo Williams) came to Cleveland to win a ring, so they stepped up their games (especially ondefense) I would be surprised if Amare was a problem defensively.

Amar'e is one of the main players who played no defense in Pheonix. He used to talk like it wasn't even an important part of the game

Maybe he will step it up now he has a chance at a ring? who knows
 
Amar'e is one of the main players who played no defense in Pheonix. He used to talk like it wasn't even an important part of the game

Maybe he will step it up now he has a chance at a ring? who knows

Im not saying he's gonna be on the All-NBA defensive team, but I think he will care enough to play mediocre defense. If he thinks he's gonna walk in here and not hustle and just stand around on D then he's sadly mistaken
 
Then you groan this post hahaha:

FedEx227 said:
The Cavs biggest problem last year wasn't Howard though, I think it was the Pietrus/Lewis/Hedo combo. They made it impossible for the Cavs to put a balanced lineup out there. If they went small to guard those guys Howard had his way, but if they went big you had Anderson trying to guard perimeter guys.

Did you actually WATCH the ECF last year, like...at all?
 
Im not saying he's gonna be on the All-NBA defensive team, but I think he will care enough to play mediocre defense. If he thinks he's gonna walk in here and not hustle and just stand around on D then he's sadly mistaken

Are you the fucking coach? Shut your mouth clown. You're the only person here who legit pisses me off when you say stupid shit.

You are like 12 and know nothing about basketball. If Amare doesn't want to play defense, he won't play defense. The entire NBA is full of guys who could give two shits about defense.
 
That last part isn't true. Guys care about defense. Some just aren't very good at it, Amare included. Watch the All-Star Game if you want to see what basketball looks like if people "don't give a shit" about defense.
 
That last part isn't true. Guys care about defense. Some just aren't very good at it, Amare included. Watch the All-Star Game if you want to see what basketball looks like if people "don't give a shit" about defense.

I beg to differ. They don't care nearly as much as they should imo. Agreed some of them are just awful at it, but there are a lot of dudes who truly do not care from my view.
 
Yeah, I suppose in some cases that is true... and I do understand your point. I just wanted to clarify before we got the "OMG NBA SUX NOBODY PLAYS DEFENSE COLLEGE EVERYBODY PLAYS" stuff.
 
Buckeyes, I'm surprised to see you can still talk after all that cavaliers dick in your mouth. Jesus Christ, you honestly believe the cavs are perfect don't you?

No I dont. they way we have been playing...especially with Mo out...Im not gonna lie, i would be surprised if we didnt win the championship.

But that doesnt make us perfect. Obviously we could use an improvement at the PF...hence us going for Amare and Jamison. I also think we stand around and watch LeBron too much at times. No team is perfect. But every league has a #1
 
In a couple year he'll be an all-star.


He said he was leaning towards re-signing


Your an idiot


Your an idiot. Shaq essentially cancels out or does better than every big man he faces. Including Dwight.

If you people think +/- means anything in the NBA, you are dumber than I thought. Keep in mind, the Cavs bench is basically another starting lineup, so of course they are gonna be + against other teams' benches.

He said he was leaning towards re-signing

Yeah he was leaning so much towards re-signing that the Suns have been trying to deal him to anybody and everybody.

Your an idiot

:facepalm:

Your an idiot. Shaq essentially cancels out or does better than every big man he faces. Including Dwight.

Do you really think adding Amar'e will help the D? I'm not going to get into Shaq's defensive stats because they are available for everybody to see

the Cavs bench is basically another starting lineup

Why do you keep saying this?

Gibson would be lucky to start consistently for another NBA team, West would be a decent starter, Moon is nowhere near starter material for any good team, Powe was a nice role player in Boston but he's not a starter, Z is past starting for any good NBA team and lastly Varejao is probably a fringe starter/bench player at best.
 
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