Suarez is a 'disgrace'

[1ke]

See. This is why I said what I did to MGB. Pat didn't accuse anyone of anything in the Chelsea incident. And Suarez admitted to saying what he did. So it just isn't worth it to argue this. Its dumb. Only the supporters of this club (Scouse) could be this clueless about all of this.

Fantastic post CB.

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[wr50l]

This handshake stuff has done nothing positive for the league, it's not improved respect and instead has become a focal point for the media to see their headlines played out.

If someone disrespected me, I would not shake their hand unless I felt the issue had been settled with a genuine apology. Even then it may not be enough. I was critical of the length of the suspension and remain so; but having seen Suarez' refusal to acknowledge his mistake I myself would struggle to show the man even the symbolic respect of a handshake.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Evra has never made false accusations! The Chelsea one was brought by Mike Phelan who said he heard the claims towards Evra. Those weren't true, but Evra requested a private hearing and tried to stay away from it.

In this case, SUAREZ ADMITTED CALLING HIM A NEGRO! A THIRD PARTY FOUND THAT THE CONTEXT WAS HOSTILE AND WOULD BE CONSIDERED RACIST ANYWHERE IN THE RIVER PLATE REGION! That isn't one player against another. Suarez said I did it, but it didn't mean that much. Evra said he used a slightly different word and said it three more times than they found to be correct. In the heat of battle should we really expect the RACIALLY ABUSED PARTY to count exactly how many times they heard that word? "Oh, he only called you negro 4 times but you said 8? Guess he goes free"

What other absolutely stupid ideas have been posted in this thread? Evra slightly pulls his handback while Suarez very obviously skips him and goes to De Gea? I don't blame Evra if he feels conflicted over this, it's only been a couple months since Suarez was abusing him. Even if there was a slight pause his hand was still there to be shaken HAD SUAREZ WANTED TO. This was premeditated by Suarez

I love how Liverpool fans are so FUCKING STUPID that somehow Evra trying to be a bigger man and move past this means he was lying the whole time? Suarez was found guilty and served a suspension. Evra acknowledges this and admitted Suarez ISN'T A RACIST (which doesn't mean he didn't say RACIST things). Shaking hands was an easy way to bring closure to this situation, or at the very least distract from it. Suarez wasn't a big enough man to do so

This thread is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not sure what media conspiracy MGB and Caribbean think we are falling prey to, but it doesn't exist. Why would Dalglish say that Suarez was going to do it, and then pretend he didn't see it? The only reason this is still news is because Liverpool is making it!

Papa, BH, Fappin and myself are all fans of teams outside this rivalry. This isn't just a ManU/Liverpool rivalry thing. I've been pretty clear in my history on this board of bashing both these teams equally because of their spoiled fanbases. But Ferguson and Evra have handled this with more class than a lot of other things in their history. Frankly, Ferguson was right: if Suarez was so innocent, why not appeal?

My main issue is with all the blame being put on Suarez and none on Evra acting like a cunt through out the game and after it. The problem I have with the media is them focusing on Suarez and not what Evra did. Evra knew what he was doing when he tried to talk to him at half, he wasn't trying to talk it out he was trying to get Suarez fired up and to make him do something stupid. Then at the end of the game he celebrated like he won the fucking Champions League right around Suarez. I also do not buy the argument that Suarez caused all of Evra's actions by not shaking his hand. Evra could've just left it at that but he took it another level.

Suarez didn't want to shake his hand, big fucking deal. He feels Evra lied about what he said, if I felt that way, I'd do exactly what Suarez did. This has nothing to do with being the bigger man. In Suarez's mind, Evra has damaged his reputation by lying about what he did. That doesn't warrant a handshake as shaking someone's hand signifies respect. Which is why Ferdinand chose not to shake Suarez's hand which is perfectly fine too because he doesn't respect Suarez.

 

[citizenerased]

Also, this photo shows otherwise about Suarez not extending his hand:

You can't see Suarez's hand in the gif until after he passes Evra.

:lol:

Seriously?

God, no, just no.

Get that spastic RAWK bullshit out of here.

Also, Suarez didn't even make a show out of it by skipping Evra. He just wasn't going to shake his hand and thats that. Evra felt the need to grab his arm, approach him in the tunnel at half time of a game, and then dance around him at the end. Evra was much more childish then Suarez was.

The difference here is that Ferguson called Evra out for this tomfoolery while Klu Klux Kenny is defending Suarez's actions.

 

[citizenerased]

Kenny may be a senile old drunk, but at least there's someone in the club with an ounce of sense.

Ian Ayre: Luis was wrong

12th Feb 2012 - Latest News

Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.

"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.

"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.

"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."

Liverpool striker Luis Suarez has today issued the following apology:

"I have spoken with the Manager since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong.

"I've not only let him down, but also the Club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened.

"I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions.

"I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."

 

[1ke]

RAWK has been a fun read since yesterday morning.

 

[BigHouseUSA]

The first step in ending this is LFC admitting they're wrong and to stop consistently defending Suarez. Them blindly supporting a player for a race incident is only going to encourage RAWK and other LFC fans more. Hopefully this shuts them up a bit.

 

[NAHSTE]

I'm personally amazed that people are having such a time reconciling with a zero tolerance policy against racism over there. It's pretty cut and dried and there should be no attempts at defending the behavior.

Just admit he fucked up majorly, admonish it, and move on. You can't keep condoning blatant racial abuse ... it's ridiculous.

Sidenote - I love how Americans are considered by the Euros to be barbaric and primitive, yet it's taken the international sporting culture a half-century to even begin the process of eradicating public displays of racism. And yet still some fans are resistant.

 

[PP]

Lets take this time to get rid of the stupid pre-game handshake. Just shake the other teams hand at the end of the game and avoid whoever you don't get along with. Fuck I play in an Amatuer soccer league and I don't shake some of the guys hands win or loss because they are just pricks and act like fools during games. I just avoid them at the end and have only had one guy come up and try to fight for ignoring his handshake. meh.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Good to see that some within Liverpool realize how awful this whole situation is making the club look. The supporters can continue to deny any accountability for the player and believe he did nothing wrong, but its telling that no one else is seeing it that way.

 

[calgaryballer]

 

[BigHouseUSA]

 

[Fappin Raptor]

 

[citizenerased]

lol, now RAWK have turned on FSG, saying that they "forced" the Grand Dragon Kenny and Suarez to apologize against their will.

Comparisons to Hicks and Gillette starting, bunch of fucking morons the entire fanbase. Turning on the Americans who turfed out your hated owners, got rid of Hodgson and put your beloved King Kenny back in charge and gave him 100 million pounds to blow on shit despite the fact his resume in the past 15 years consisted of destroying Newcastle, getting sacked from Celtic and sitting on his arse for a decade... all because they made a convicted racist apologize for lying to his manager and the guys who pay his wages and reigniting the whole storm.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Comolli was also part of those we bought. I have to say I was against Adam, Downing, and Carroll and selling Meireles. They got it in their heads that over paying for players in the Premier League was better than buying guys with similar or more talent from overseas.

Also not every person on RAWK is claiming FSG forced them to apologize but the he can do no wrong attitude towards Dalglish is getting old. He's made questionable tactical decisions as well transfer buys.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Now there are rumors Suarez will leave Liverpool in the summer. That would be an absolutely terrible move by the club. Yes he's an ass, but he's also the best player on the team and the guy we should be building around.