The Avengers

[Palooza]

Someone posted a chart of the amount of screen time he character was on screen. It went:

Hawkeye: 15 mins
Thor: 25 mins
Banner/Hulk: 28 mins
Black Widow: 33 min
Iron Man: 37 mins
Captain America: 38 mins

Very surprised Thor would get the 2nd least amount of time considering I thought his movie was the best and the villain of the film was his brother.

I definitely thought Cap America did the least, too, even though he has the most screen time.

 

[wingsfan77]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/122/1224220p1.html

spoilers in that article

 

[IamMedellin]

Joss Whedon is the Man...

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

This is what was funny...this flick broke damn records for opening week...I was in NJ this weekend, down near the shore, for my friend's wedding...I went to theatre in Belmar...laff laff laff...my fiancee and I were two of four people in the theatre to see the 3D version of this flick at 10:30 on a Friday night...the only other people in there were workers of the theatre because that was the last showing of the night.

Was good to see a film of this magnitude in a theatre with no one in it...usually, you have the trogs coming out to check it out at that time...but alas...

As for the movie...it was good, but damnit, its not GOAT.

Here is my biggest gripe.

I didn't need 1h of laying out the plot, the baddy, etc. You had five films that set up the premise for it, and I felt they gave you an hour to set up these characters, reintroduce them, reintroduce Loki, tell you why he's here and all that...was very boring and tedious...they set all of that up in previous films, so, it was all redundant. Sure, getting the in-fighting with the Avengers and the Hulk-Thor, Thor-Iron Man, Iron Man-Captain America stuff was cute, but overall, kind of unnecessary.

HOWEVER...

The last half of the movie, once they got to New York, was BOSS. That is why you go to the movies, to see shit blow up and ridiculous things beat the shit out of each other and be destroyed. Was really good work on the last half. A+ in that regard.

 

[Juggernaut]

I saw it Friday night at 9:50 at lowes on route 1, near the bridge, theater was packed, literally no parking. We had to park on the grass. Every show time was sold out, I would have loved to have gone to an empty theater.

As for laying out the plot, they kinda had to. Looking at the records, more people saw avengers than the previous movies. Which means that for most people, they needed to be reintroduced. Imagine you didn't see Thor out of the whole list, you'd be confused as fuck with Loki.

But yea, he nyc scenes are the best this year, and might be depending how well dark knight does.

 

[Bomberooski]

Saw it tonight and loved it

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I saw it Friday night at 9:50 at lowes on route 1, near the bridge, theater was packed, literally no parking. We had to park on the grass. Every show time was sold out, I would have loved to have gone to an empty theater.

As for laying out the plot, they kinda had to. Looking at the records, more people saw avengers than the previous movies. Which means that for most people, they needed to be reintroduced. Imagine you didn't see Thor out of the whole list, you'd be confused as fuck with Loki.

But yea, he nyc scenes are the best this year, and might be depending how well dark knight does.

All of those Marvel films were in heavy rotation for syndication...IM, IM2, Hulk...those flicks are on FX on rotate...Thor and Captain America were two of the most rented films since they've been released for rental.

I don't really buy the idea of reintroducing everyone in such a fashion for movies like this. You don't see Harry Potter 7 reintroducing Harry, Hermione, and Ron for an hour...you don't see Star Wars reintroducing Luke, Leia, and Han again in Return of the Jedi...you don't see Legolas, Sam, and Gandolf being reintroduced in ROTK.

So, I don't buy that excuse, and to be honest, its kind of lazy to do it. Basically, what it says to me, is you didn't have enough ideas to make a 2h30m film with new stuff...you had 1h30m of awesome battling, but you wanted to make it 2h30m, so, you threw in an hour of plot that is being rehashed. I'd rather just see the 1h30m of battle scenes.

Not too dissimilar to Transformers 3, where 1h30m was completely meaningless and boring with the last hour being ridiculous eye candy. Avengers was much better than T3, but same premise of spending a lot of time to discuss stuff that took place over 5 films. So, I either just wasted my time watching five films or I wasted an hour watching the first half of The Avengers. Either way...time was wasted.

 

[CCBrink]

All of those Marvel films were in heavy rotation for syndication...IM, IM2, Hulk...those flicks are on FX on rotate...Thor and Captain America were two of the most rented films since they've been released for rental.

I don't really buy the idea of reintroducing everyone in such a fashion for movies like this. You don't see Harry Potter 7 reintroducing Harry, Hermione, and Ron for an hour...you don't see Star Wars reintroducing Luke, Leia, and Han again in Return of the Jedi...you don't see Legolas, Sam, and Gandolf being reintroduced in ROTK.

So, I don't buy that excuse, and to be honest, its kind of lazy to do it. Basically, what it says to me, is you didn't have enough ideas to make a 2h30m film with new stuff...you had 1h30m of awesome battling, but you wanted to make it 2h30m, so, you threw in an hour of plot that is being rehashed. I'd rather just see the 1h30m of battle scenes.

Not too dissimilar to Transformers 3, where 1h30m was completely meaningless and boring with the last hour being ridiculous eye candy. Avengers was much better than T3, but same premise of spending a lot of time to discuss stuff that took place over 5 films. So, I either just wasted my time watching five films or I wasted an hour watching the first half of The Avengers. Either way...time was wasted.

Sounds like you wanted a straight action movie, with zero character development. You must be Micheal Bay's biggest fan.

The movie was actually only about 2 hours 10 minutes in length and had great pacing. Nothing felt like it dragged on and the plot was constantly moving forward. Outside of the "battle scenes", they introduced Loki to the world and showed how much a threat he was, introduced S.H.I.E.L.D headquarters while delving a little deeper into the organization, brought all the heroes together, and had them go through events that actually brought them together as a team.

You say that they shouldn't have reintroduced the characters due to their origin stories taking place in the previous films. Its not like they told the whole back-story of each character. It was pretty much "where are they now" and recruiting them to join the team.

 

[JeremyHight]

I'd say the time was needed in order to show the creation of the team. Not everyone even saw the little lead-ins during the credits of previous movies, so they might not know of the random talk of the Avengers. The film took the right approach to not go through everyone's backstory, but to show the entire recruitment process and give each character a personality of their own, rather than just being another super hero.

 

[Bomberooski]

Now I just want to get into some Avenger comics

 

[jeffx]

The Hulk has always been my favorite. He has the perfect way to deal with the annoying people in one's life - smash them to bits without giving a fuck.

Some classic Avengers stories - Kree/Skrull War, Avengers vs Defenders, Avengers vs new Masters of Evil, Avengers vs X-Men(mini-series). Check out Hulk #300 - the Avengers(with Thor) take on a totally savage Hulk.

 

[jeffx]

The Hulk has always been my favorite. He has the perfect way to deal with the annoying people in one's life - smash them to bits without giving a fuck.

Some classic Avengers stories - Kree/Skrull War, Avengers vs Defenders, Avengers vs new Masters of Evil, Avengers vs X-Men(mini-series). Check out Hulk #300 - the Avengers(with Thor) take on a totally savage Hulk.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Sounds like you wanted a straight action movie, with zero character development. You must be Micheal Bay's biggest fan.

The movie was actually only about 2 hours 10 minutes in length and had great pacing. Nothing felt like it dragged on and the plot was constantly moving forward. Outside of the "battle scenes", they introduced Loki to the world and showed how much a threat he was, introduced S.H.I.E.L.D headquarters while delving a little deeper into the organization, brought all the heroes together, and had them go through events that actually brought them together as a team.

You say that they shouldn't have reintroduced the characters due to their origin stories taking place in the previous films. Its not like they told the whole back-story of each character. It was pretty much "where are they now" and recruiting them to join the team.

What character development happened in the movie, really? Avengers fought...got back together and defeated the baddies. We are not talking about a slow decline into insanity ala Harvey Dent here, we're talking about guys in a forced union and they eventually win when they come together...didn't need the first hour to tell me that.

 

[young2rice]

All of those Marvel films were in heavy rotation for syndication...IM, IM2, Hulk...those flicks are on FX on rotate...Thor and Captain America were two of the most rented films since they've been released for rental.

I don't really buy the idea of reintroducing everyone in such a fashion for movies like this. You don't see Harry Potter 7 reintroducing Harry, Hermione, and Ron for an hour...you don't see Star Wars reintroducing Luke, Leia, and Han again in Return of the Jedi...you don't see Legolas, Sam, and Gandolf being reintroduced in ROTK.

So, I don't buy that excuse, and to be honest, its kind of lazy to do it. Basically, what it says to me, is you didn't have enough ideas to make a 2h30m film with new stuff...you had 1h30m of awesome battling, but you wanted to make it 2h30m, so, you threw in an hour of plot that is being rehashed. I'd rather just see the 1h30m of battle scenes.

Not too dissimilar to Transformers 3, where 1h30m was completely meaningless and boring with the last hour being ridiculous eye candy. Avengers was much better than T3, but same premise of spending a lot of time to discuss stuff that took place over 5 films. So, I either just wasted my time watching five films or I wasted an hour watching the first half of The Avengers. Either way...time was wasted.

I think the main difference being all of those movies are direct sequels. This is sort of a compilation movie. Some people that liked Iron Man and watched it because of RDJ, may not have seen Thor or Captain America, etc, etc.

 

[j.hen]

Going to see it again on tuesday. $5 movies on tuesdays ftw

 

[dell71]

The Hulk has always been my favorite. He has the perfect way to deal with the annoying people in one's life - smash them to bits without giving a fuck.

Some classic Avengers stories - Kree/Skrull War, Avengers vs Defenders, Avengers vs new Masters of Evil, Avengers vs X-Men(mini-series). Check out Hulk #300 - the Avengers(with Thor) take on a totally savage Hulk.

Hulk #300 = one of the best comics ever.

 

[IamMedellin]

comforted by the fact that im not the only Comic geek on the board...

:freshdance3:

 

[dell71]

^^^ I'm a "reformed" comic geek. Haven't read one in years.

 

[j.hen]

Anybody stay for the after credits scene? Not just the Thanos one but after all of the credits at the very end. Fucking hilarious.

 

[Tengo Juego]

Anybody stay for the after credits scene? Not just the Thanos one but after all of the credits at the very end. Fucking hilarious.

Shit, there was another? I definitely didn't see it.