The Boxing Thread (Sweet Science) - Mayweather vs. Maidana

[Liquidrob]

cotto won the fight no doubt b/c of clottey mistake in the 1st round and also him disappearing in the later rounds maybe thinking he was ahead by a couple of rounds

but the 116-111 still makes me laugh

How could you say 'no doubt'? it was a a split for a reason

Clottey was more accurate, showed better defense, landed the cleaner punches, Cotto threw some nice combos, but Clottey was blocking the majority of them

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Clottey got the raw deal but the knock down early was probably a critical part of the loss for him. Cotto came back strong the last couple rounds.. or else I think Clottey would've won. But probably not considering one judge had it scored 116-111.

 

[Liquidrob]

I know at least JR agrees with me

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I know at least JR agrees with me

Dont get me wrong, I think Clottey won the fight.. im just saying thats why he didnt win the fight. Clottey was more active, and was blocking the majority of Cotto's punches.. Clotty did more damage to Cotto, who, as they were saying, couldnt check the right hand cause of the blood in his eye.

I put the money on Cotto by decision so I was cool with it tho..

 

[nflman2033]

the way I saw the fight I honestly thought it would end in a Draw, I would say I had Clottey winning on my card 114-113

 

[davie]

I'm glad Cotto won the fight. Obviously it was closer than 116-111, it could have been that much of a difference if not for Cotto having to fight one-eyed for 9 rounds.

 

[clovett]

LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s comeback has been postponed because the boxer suffered a rib injury while training.

Golden Boy Promotions said on Sunday that Mayweather's July 18 fight against Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas will be rescheduled.

"I am extremely disappointed that this fight has to be postponed," Mayweather (39-0, 25 KOs) said in a statement. "I was training very hard and looking forward to getting back in the ring on July 18."

Marquez (50-4-1, 37 KOs) said in a statement from his training camp in Mexico that he was also disappointed.

"I will remain focused, in shape and ready to fight whenever the fight is rescheduled for," the lightweight champion said.

Details about Mayweather's injury were not immediately available. Phone messages left by The Associated Press with Golden Boy and Mayweather's promoters were not immediately returned on Sunday.

It was not clear how long the pay-per-view fight would be delayed.

Mayweather and Marquez were scheduled to fight at a catch-weight of about 143 pounds, eight more than Marquez has ever fought and the lightest weight for Mayweather since 2005.

Mayweather hasn't boxed since knocking out Ricky Hatton in December 2007. The former five-division champ was slated to fight a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya but instead abruptly retired last June, turning his attention to show business.

Now, many consider Manny Pacquiao boxing's best pound-for-pound fighter after the charismatic Filipino icon beat De La Hoya and Hatton in fewer rounds than Mayweather.

It is possible that Mayweather and Pacquiao will eventually meet in the ring if Mayweather beats Marquez first.

 

[JrRawlins]

LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s comeback has been postponed because the boxer suffered a rib injury while training.

Golden Boy Promotions said on Sunday that Mayweather's July 18 fight against Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas will be rescheduled.

"I am extremely disappointed that this fight has to be postponed," Mayweather (39-0, 25 KOs) said in a statement. "I was training very hard and looking forward to getting back in the ring on July 18."

Marquez (50-4-1, 37 KOs) said in a statement from his training camp in Mexico that he was also disappointed.

"I will remain focused, in shape and ready to fight whenever the fight is rescheduled for," the lightweight champion said.

Details about Mayweather's injury were not immediately available. Phone messages left by The Associated Press with Golden Boy and Mayweather's promoters were not immediately returned on Sunday.

It was not clear how long the pay-per-view fight would be delayed.

Mayweather and Marquez were scheduled to fight at a catch-weight of about 143 pounds, eight more than Marquez has ever fought and the lightest weight for Mayweather since 2005.

Mayweather hasn't boxed since knocking out Ricky Hatton in December 2007. The former five-division champ was slated to fight a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya but instead abruptly retired last June, turning his attention to show business.

Now, many consider Manny Pacquiao boxing's best pound-for-pound fighter after the charismatic Filipino icon beat De La Hoya and Hatton in fewer rounds than Mayweather.

It is possible that Mayweather and Pacquiao will eventually meet in the ring if Mayweather beats Marquez first.

damn that sucks......

 

[JrRawlins]

116-111 Cotto how? 115-112 Cotto? really... 116-111 is 8 rounds to 4...... did Cotto really win 8 rounds? i know i was rooting for Clottey but i didnt see Cotto win 8 rounds..... i could be terribly mistaken... but didnt Clottey stalk Cotto after he was cut for the next 2 rounds ( 4 and 5) Cotto dominated 6 ( Clottey was trapped in the corner) then Clottey took back over until like round 11 when Cotto began to move and give Clottey some different angles.... I respect what Cotto did by continuing to fight, he could have easily thought to himself, hey i am up on the cards because of the knockdown, with this cut we go to the scorecards, this fight is a wrap, but he didnt.... he kept fighting...... lost some respect for Clottey he whined about his knee then the low blows and the punch in the back of the head.... fight man... your in a fight... stop cryin.....

with all that said, I think Clottey lost the fight more than Cotto won it... simply because Cotto was badly cut and essentially couldnt see Clottey's right hand, i felt he should have taken more advantage of the cut and set up his right hand better.....

 

[davie]

116-111 Cotto how? 115-112 Cotto? really... 116-111 is 8 rounds to 4...... did Cotto really win 8 rounds? i know i was rooting for Clottey but i didnt see Cotto win 8 rounds..... i could be terribly mistaken... but didnt Clottey stalk Cotto after he was cut for the next 2 rounds ( 4 and 5) Cotto dominated 6 ( Clottey was trapped in the corner) then Clottey took back over until like round 11 when Cotto began to move and give Clottey some different angles.... I respect what Cotto did by continuing to fight, he could have easily thought to himself, hey i am up on the cards because of the knockdown, with this cut we go to the scorecards, this fight is a wrap, but he didnt.... he kept fighting...... lost some respect for Clottey he whined about his knee then the low blows and the punch in the back of the head.... fight man... your in a fight... stop cryin.....

with all that said, I think Clottey lost the fight more than Cotto won it... simply because Cotto was badly cut and essentially couldnt see Clottey's right hand, i felt he should have taken more advantage of the cut and set up his right hand better.....

Agreed, mostly. A lot of the later rounds could have been given either way. Maybe Clottey did stalk Cotto for rounds 4 and 5, he should have dominated those rounds though (Cotto still looked more accurate with one eye). You're right about him bitching too when he wasn't really hurt - boxing isn't the sport for that.

I loved the ref's response when Clottey claimed he was hit low "walk it off, come on final round, let's fight"

 

[Liquidrob]

Just because Cotto cut his eye and fought thru it doesnt mean he won the fight, of course it hindered him, but you have to judge it on the in ring action

and my eyes told me that Cottley did more damage, was more accurate, showed better defense and ring control, when Cotto had him up against the ropes a couple times he was conrolling the fight, but he didnt do it enough IMO to win the fight

 

[JrRawlins]

Just because Cotto cut his eye and fought thru it doesnt mean he won the fight, of course it hindered him, but you have to judge it on the in ring action

and my eyes told me that Cottley did more damage, was more accurate, showed better defense and ring control, when Cotto had him up against the ropes a couple times he was conrolling the fight, but he didnt do it enough IMO to win the fight

and thats why i said Clottey lost the fight more than Cotto won it.... aside from when Cotto had Clottey against the ropes he did little.... Clottey was clearly more accurate and when he was aggressive controlled the fight... considering the crowd being extremely PRO-COTTO, Clottey had to realize he would have to be borderline dominant to get a decision win and should have been aggressive the entire fight, if he was aggressive the entire fight Clottey would have won......

still waitin to see if someone can say Cotto won 8 rounds in that fight?

 

[Liquidrob]

yeah, tough fight for Clottley to win which kind of blows when reporters and the announcers bascially ask the question before the fight 'Can Clottley win a decision against Cotto in MSG?'

That should never be a question in a fight

 

[nflman2033]

yeah heard about the PBF vs JMM postponement, the good news is I get to hold on to my 60 bucks for a litle bit longer.

 

[JrRawlins]

yeah, tough fight for Clottley to win which kind of blows when reporters and the announcers bascially ask the question before the fight 'Can Clottley win a decision against Cotto in MSG?'

That should never be a question in a fight

Lampley asked Clottey the day before the fight if he could win a decision in MSG against Cotto..... what kind of dummass reporting is that? It shouldnt matter where you are boxing at the decision should be impartial.... i understand the crowd could sway a judge alittle bit, but it should be a understanding coming into the fight that someone is at a distinct advantage simply because of the location.....

 

[JrRawlins]

yeah heard about the PBF vs JMM postponement, the good news is I get to hold on to my 60 bucks for a litle bit longer.

honestly i am hoping this fight stays on the shelf.... Marquez is a weak counter punch who relies essentially on timing.... but timing PBF is like grabbing jello barehanded and expecting to keep it all in your hands..... that shit aint gonna work...... not to mention he got dropped PacMan 3 times, said he didnt adjust to the speed at first.... wtf he think is gonna happen against PBF?

 

[nflman2033]

honestly i am hoping this fight stays on the shelf.... Marquez is a weak counter punch who relies essentially on timing.... but timing PBF is like grabbing jello barehanded and expecting to keep it all in your hands..... that shit aint gonna work...... not to mention he got dropped PacMan 3 times, said he didnt adjust to the speed at first.... wtf he think is gonna happen against PBF?

yeah I agree I would rather see PBF fight Pacquiao, however I dont' think PBF wants to fight Pacquiao as a first fight after a long layoff

 

[davie]

Just because Cotto cut his eye and fought thru it doesnt mean he won the fight, of course it hindered him, but you have to judge it on the in ring action

and my eyes told me that Cottley did more damage, was more accurate, showed better defense and ring control, when Cotto had him up against the ropes a couple times he was conrolling the fight, but he didnt do it enough IMO to win the fight

Well I was disagreeing and thought Cotto was more accurate, although I appreciate that the later rounds could have been scored either way. You've chosen to go with Clottey, fair enough.

I didn't say "he was cut so he wins"

 

[Liquidrob]

Well I was disagreeing and thought Cotto was more accurate, although I appreciate that the later rounds could have been scored either way. You've chosen to go with Clottey, fair enough.

I didn't say "he was cut so he wins"

I dont know how anyone can watch that fight and say Cotto was more accurate, you could maybe say Cotto landed more, but no way he was more accurate

 

[JrRawlins]

Davie watch that fight again... and see how many punches Cotto throws that hit Clottey's forearms.... it is a very high number.....Clottey's defense was amazing for most of this fight.... despite Cotto throwing a bunch of punches, they seemed ineffective for the most part..... .