The Bret Hart scale...Let's rate random wrestlers.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Fair enough on Foley, I moved him to a 6, I am being too harsh on him.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Sabu never spoke...I think the first time I heard him speak outside of screaming in pain while they took random shit off his back was in the WWE, actually lol. He just looked like a drunken uncle that would do the dumbest shit, and did. Would hurt his opponent with no care for his body.

I am not even sure I can adequately rate Sabu on in-ring work...I enjoyed a lot of Sabu matches, but they were some of the sloppiest matches you'll ever see. It'd be Sabu botching a spot, but re-doing it in front of a live audience and play it off like it was nothing. Really weird matches, but he always sent you home happy...which was kind of a staple of Heyman's ECW. You always went home glad that you went.

Awesome story about Sabu. My friends went to some ICP thing in Ohio many years ago...Sabu was there and went to everyone's tent and stole their weed...he'd just travel from tent to tent, smoke a j with them and leave to the next tent. This took place all weekend. I also had a few beers with Sabu a few years ago...he's basically an old, cool, quiet stoner bum.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

I was going to say that most of Sabu's in ring work came outside of the ring, making it a little difficult to rate.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

W2B, I see u lurkin...post a few random ones.

Need Rob back in here, too.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

At work. Will definately do a few more later. This thread is gold.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Al Snow

Physical Appearance / Look / Character - 6/10 Not the biggest guy, not the smallest guy, but wasnt really generic looking either. Worked as an insane scitzo.

Ability to Talk/Sell Yourself - 6/10 Rather strange promos with a lot of rambling but were usually entertaining atleast. Really worked good as a comedy guy.

In-Ring Work - 6/10 Pretty solid, nothing spectacular. Put on some really entertaining matches in the Hardcore Title days in the WWE.

Total - 18/30

Too generous?

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[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Very generous...if Paul Heyman doesn't purchase a bazillion Styrofoam heads and hand them out at a taping, Al Snow is never heard from again.

 

[EmpireWF]

Lance Storm​

Physical Appearance / Look / Character - 7/10. He gets the points for busting his ass in the gym. He did it naturally, too and he always "looked" like a legit athlete. His character was always overlooked but his pro-Canada gimmick in WCW was great and the Impact Players in ECW were good (probably remember it more fondly than it actually was good at the time though).

Ability to Talk/Sell Yourself - 3/10. IF I CAN BE SERIOUS FOR A MOMENT...

In-Ring Work - 9/10. As smooth a worker as there has been in the past 20 years. He was technically sound, could do a more action packed style or a more mat based style. Capable of working with just about anyone and making it look good.


TOTAL - 19/30

 

[Acesuper]

Only a 7 in the ring for Dean, Ace? I cant agree with that.

LOL, that is so funny you said that because I really adjusted my ratings to how you rated Chris Benoit (I could see your post in my Reply Page).

Benoit was technical. Maybe not as polished as Dean but Benoit was practically a total package. He had an assortment of high risk or power maneuvers he used on opponents. They both did some suplexes I believe off turnbuckles. But Benoit would fly off the top turnbuckle and the top rope for that matter.

Dean Malenko was my all time favorite wrestler (other than my Shawn Michael's years.) I couldn't make it easy and show favoritism, Kuzz.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

"Primetime" Elix Skipper

Physical Appearance / Look / Character - 5/10 Generic looking black cruiserweight.

Ability to Talk/Sell Yourself - 5/10 I only remember him doing a couple promos from his time in Team Canada, and he was a raw, but had that corny lame almost unintentional humour that I enjoy.

In-Ring Work - 7.5/10 From what I recall, Elix was very entertaining in the ring. I also recall a little of his work in TNA's X-Division and it was also good. Wonder if hes still around?

Total - 17.5/30
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[Liquidrob]

Haku from The Islanders​

Physical Appearance / Look / Character - 9/10, He was from 'The Island of Tonga' I believe, and for many years as a child I believed everyone from Tonga looked like Haku, the Islanders was an awesome tag team, Haku was the strong guy of the group and looked the part

Ability to Talk/Sell Yourself - 1/10, no idea, I believe he had a manager do all the talking while he grunted in the background with the other Islander

In-Ring Work - What does Liquidrob look for from a guy from the Island?

Headbutts - check
Chops - check
Dropkicks - check

That's all you need for a 10, but throw in the fact he slammed BIG JOHN STUD for $10,000 it's an easy 10 from me, 10/10

Total - 20/30

 

[EmpireWF]

Haku is now a used car salesman in Florida, true story.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

MENG was a fucking gangster.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Haku could talk. Maybe not on a mic. Ran into the Islanders after a house show way back in the day. They were eating a late supper at the same restaurant. Went up and talked to him. Nice enough guy. The bill for the two wrestlers was like $150, and that was back when a family of four could eat for $25.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Haku could talk. Maybe not on a mic. Ran into the Islanders after a house show way back in the day. They were eating a late supper at the same restaurant. Went up and talked to him. Nice enough guy. The bill for the two wrestlers was like $150, and that was back when a family of four could eat for $25.

ROFLs...fuckin Island motherfuckers.

 

[dave]

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Lex Luger

Physical Appearance / Look / Character - 10/10
He just looked the part, especially in the 80s.

Ability to Talk/Sell Yourself - 6/10
A wooden speaker, didn't ooze charisma ... but was always near the top of the card. Frankly, I liked "The Narcissist" gimmick the best. That theme music was awesome.

In-Ring Work - 3/10
In fairness to Luger, in-ring work wasn't what brought him to the big dance. Like The Ultimate Warrior, he was there for his in-ring look alone. If he had started with McMahon at the beginning of his career, he might have been bigger than The Warrior because he had the same look, but was saner.

19/30

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

RE: Luger...

I'd lower him a bit in regards to speaking...he wasn't very good at all.

I'd give him higher than a 3 as a worker though. I think people think he sucks so bad, he's probably underrated. He's had quite a few strong matches early in his career. Mostly with better performers, but still.

His whole career people tried to make him "The Next Hogan"...he had the body type and the name, but was never in the right place at the right time, and he didn't have Hogan's just natural charisma. He didn't even have Warrior's charisma. He was just a really big guy with a good look. He was given the "Hogan push", by my count...4 times by a few different companies/bookers. Just not that guy. His best booking came during the Jim Crockett WCW before turning face.

I think he is a bit better than some give him credit for, but at the end of the day...meh.

9/10 Look.
3/10 on the mic.
5/10 in the ring.

17/30?

 

[EmpireWF]

Luger was the shits.

 

[dave]

I might agree 3 is a bit low, but to call Luger the shits is underrating him.
He was a near rookie in The Four Horseman and a consistent main eventer (or near the top of the main event) for five years.
I suspect he's gonna end up in the WWE Hall of Fame with Koko B. Ware and Drew Carey.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Luger was the shits.

When you say he is the shits...that is where he's underrated.

He wasn't good over the course of his career...but he's had some strong matches, especially when he was young. Started off strong in tag teams...then had some good singles matches in the late 80's and early 90's.

No dynamo...but not complete shit either. Complete shit doesn't have the number of strong matches, even if its with some greats, like Luger has.