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The Chargers will win the AFC West

I agree with the OP. While KC and Oakland are much improved, we all know in the end it usually comes down to QB play. Take into account the weapons he is getting back, I think the Chargers take this division.
 
In earlier seasons when San Diego shit the bed to start the season, they still managed to sweep Kansas City and Oakland every time...

Fuck you guys it's Denver all the way. With Tim Tebow developing we can actually score in the red zone!
 
I was right. That 59-14 ass whipping didn't keep you guys quiet for 2 weeks.

Every great story has a low point omar. They'll be making movies about this season in five years, how the Broncos overcame injuries, embarrassing losses, and a 2-6 record to win the Super Bowl. All through the grace of Tim Tebow and Kyle Orton's arm. What a story! Better then the blind side that's for sure.
 
Divison wise it seems like the kind of year where each team is winning at home,

Chargers @ Chiefs, Chiefs win 21-14.
Chiefs @ Raiders, Raiders win 23-20
Chiefs @ Broncos, Broncos win 49-29
Chargers @ Raiders, Raiders win 35-27
(The only exception being Raiders @ Broncos where Raiders got the win - which I think is going to be the one that comes back and hurts Denver the most)

A quick look at the schedules and I think;
Chargers 9-7
Raiders 8-8
Chiefs 8-8
Broncos 7-9

If we lose a divisonal game at home - we won't win the division. If we can go 3-0 then I think it's ours.
 
Every great story has a low point omar. They'll be making movies about this season in five years, how the Broncos overcame injuries, embarrassing losses, and a 2-6 record to win the Super Bowl. All through the grace of Tim Tebow and Kyle Orton's arm. What a story! Better then the blind side that's for sure.

What was the loss to the 49ers then? Or do those 2 embarrassing losses count as the low point?

I have Schaub and Orton on my FF team. I start each based on the matchup, went with Schaub this week and Orton outscored him by 10. I'm starting Orton this week and I will bet money that he shits the bed. It's happened every week I've started him.

Guy fucking sucks against good defenses. And before you say KC has a good defense, Jason Campbell threw for over 300 yards and 2 TDs on them last week and Jacoby Ford had 140 receiving yards. KC has been exposed.
 
What was the loss to the 49ers then? Or do those 2 embarrassing losses count as the low point?

I have Schaub and Orton on my FF team. I start each based on the matchup, went with Schaub this week and Orton outscored him by 10. I'm starting Orton this week and I will bet money that he shits the bed. It's happened every week I've started him.

Guy fucking sucks against good defenses. And before you say KC has a good defense, Jason Campbell threw for over 300 yards and 2 TDs on them last week and Jacoby Ford had 140 receiving yards. KC has been exposed.

Jacoby Ford and Campbell got those yards on like 5 passes they completed the whole game.. The Raiders had around 60 yards of offense in the first half and were a fluke completion that should have been an INT away from a loss. They have played better, for sure, but don't come in here talking about the game vs KC like you guys went up and down the field on us..

Also, we have a midseason prediction thread here: http://www.vsndaily.com/showthread.php?t=65960 ... :shifty:
 
I have Schaub and Orton on my FF team. I start each based on the matchup, went with Schaub this week and Orton outscored him by 10. I'm starting Orton this week and I will bet money that he shits the bed. It's happened every week I've started him.

So your strategy is to start the QB who will score less points?
 
Jacoby Ford and Campbell got those yards on like 5 passes they completed the whole game.. The Raiders had around 60 yards of offense in the first half and were a fluke completion that should have been an INT away from a loss. They have played better, for sure, but don't come in here talking about the game vs KC like you guys went up and down the field on us..

Also, we have a midseason prediction thread here: http://www.vsndaily.com/showthread.php?t=65960 ... :shifty:

What's the difference? 300 yards of offense from Jason Campbell is 300 yards.

The fact that it was in the 2nd half only means that the Raiders adjusted and the Chiefs didn't so Cable outcoached Haley. Which makes your team look even shittier.

Don't get butthurt because Campbell threw for 300 yards, 2 TDs, and no INTs vs your team.
 
Whenever they beat the Titans a few weeks ago, I knew it was about to happen again. Rivers is going to do anything he can to get the Chargers back into the playoffs.
 
What's the difference? 300 yards of offense from Jason Campbell is 300 yards.

The fact that it was in the 2nd half only means that the Raiders adjusted and the Chiefs didn't so Cable outcoached Haley. Which makes your team look even shittier.

Don't get butthurt because Campbell threw for 300 yards, 2 TDs, and no INTs vs your team.

LOL at this part. Chiefs didn't cover a kickoff and Jacoby Ford is a lot faster than Brandon Flowers. That's the ballgame right there and that's on the players.
 
I tend to agree with Bromar here. I can see the Bolts winning the AFC West and Rivers winning MVP because he's going to come close to Marino's record..

I can also see them unraveling and the Raiders winning the division.

Who knows?
 
LOL at this part. Chiefs didn't cover a kickoff and Jacoby Ford is a lot faster than Brandon Flowers. That's the ballgame right there and that's on the players.

With all due respect to Flowers and the Chiefs D, Ford shat on them 2-3 times before that catch.

And I know a couple of those were lucky, but the fact is, Ford came down with those balls and the Chiefs D refused to give him, or any of the Raiders receivers, any respect and they surrendered 300 yards to them over the last 2-3 quarters.

Sure, blame it on the players. But don't act like coaching has nothing to do with it.

Oakland looked like absolute shit in the first half. Fumbling, missing blocks, missing receivers, etc. They didn't do anything right. Then all of a sudden, in the second half, they took the game over in all 3 aspects.

Anyways, in regards to this thread, I'm not that optimistic about the Raiders postseason chances because the fact of the matter is that the team has a ton of holes and I don't believe in Jason Campbell. This team has already over achieved in my eyes (thus far), I'll be happy if they can win 2-3 more games but I fully expect the Chargers to get their shit together and win the division because they are better at every offensive position when healthy and have a more complete defense. Their SPT has just been downright awful.
 
Whatever team comes out of the West, I do not like their chances to make a playoff run. Chargers could surprise, but Norvell Turner will make sure they don't go too far. I actually like their chances to win the division right now. Seems they are getting healthy and getting players back at the right time.
 
With all due respect to Flowers and the Chiefs D, Ford shat on them 2-3 times before that catch.

And I know a couple of those were lucky, but the fact is, Ford came down with those balls and the Chiefs D refused to give him, or any of the Raiders receivers, any respect and they surrendered 300 yards to them over the last 2-3 quarters.

Sure, blame it on the players. But don't act like coaching has nothing to do with it.

Oakland looked like absolute shit in the first half. Fumbling, missing blocks, missing receivers, etc. They didn't do anything right. Then all of a sudden, in the second half, they took the game over in all 3 aspects.

Anyways, in regards to this thread, I'm not that optimistic about the Raiders postseason chances because the fact of the matter is that the team has a ton of holes and I don't believe in Jason Campbell. This team has already over achieved in my eyes (thus far), I'll be happy if they can win 2-3 more games but I fully expect the Chargers to get their shit together and win the division because they are better at every offensive position when healthy and have a more complete defense. Their SPT has just been downright awful.

Yeah. Flowers is one of the top corners in the league, and had a bad game. Shit happens.

The Chiefs looked like shit too. KC is one of the least penalized teams in the league and they had a ridiculous amount of penalties to counter all of Oakland's bullshit.

We're in the same boat as far as not believing in our teams. Smart money is on San Diego to take over and win the division, but this is a strange year in the NFL. I think anything could happen. But maybe that's just the homer in me talking.
 
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