The Hobbit

[BroncoBlue]

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I'm one who read the Hobbit first.

I actually saw the 1970's cartoon first, then because of my interest my father read the hobbit to me when I was like 5 yrs old. Then I saw the LOTR cartoon, lost interest for a while after that.

In I think 7th grade I chose the Hobbit as a book report, mostly because I remembered the story and felt I could get a good book report. That was back in '90-'91. Then when the LOTR movies were coming out I read the LOTR books, and re-read the Hobbit.

BTW - I had a poster of Middle-Earth on my wall at seven years old. That's how big of a nerd I am for the story.


PS - Thorin Oakenshield looks BAD ASS!!!

 

[Maestro]

I loved the LOTR series and i'm looking forward to these movies. Never read the books though.

 

[trojan49er]

have read The Hobbit and LOTR countless time...read the Hobbit first tho. I tried reading The Silmarillion but the damn thing reads like a textbook. It provides some interesting background info and insight into the big players in the realm but its not a particularly entertaining read imo. Looking forward to The Hobbit movie.


And yes, Thorin Oakenshield looks like one bad mutha

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I assume they'll each be 2.5 hours+, I'm more curious to see where the first film will end. Somewhere around Mirkwood maybe? With Gandalf and the White Council at Dol Guldur?

Sort of a rough timeline.

 

1. Bilbo’s recruitment
2. Capture of the three trolls
3. Capture of the goblins
4. Finding the ring and meeting Gollum
5. Wolves/Wargs surround the party in trees
6. Wargs talk about Goblins coming
7. Gandalf becomes a billy badass and starts throwing fireballs at the wolves
8. Goblins show up and start the trees on fire
9. Lord of the eagles shows up and saves the party
10. The party meets Beorn and stays at his house for a couple days
11. Party gets lost in Mirkwood
12. Bilbo saves the Dwarves from Spiders
13. Dwarves are captured by Wood Elves
14. Bilbo spends some time scouting the Elves Base
15. Bilbo breaks the Dwarves out of Elf Jail
16. The party shows up in Laketown
17. They find the hidden door of Lonely Mountain
18. Bilbo meets steels a cup, then goes back to talk with Smaug
19. Smaug gets pissed, flys around, Bard kills him
20. Dwarves claim the treasure their birthright
21. Bilbo tries to strike a deal with between the elves and dwarves by being shady…doesn’t work.
22. Elves, Dwarves, Humans start fighting
23. Goblins show up, Dwarves Humans and Elves have to defend against the goblin army that is overwelming
24. The 5th and final bird army shows up and owns shit
25. Beorn shows up in the shape of a bear and rips shit up.
26. Biblo gets knocked out
27. Biblo wakes up, the battle is over, gets to see Thorin before he croaks, and the money is split.
28. Biblo only takes two chests of loot, goes home. The end.

I think a clean place to end the first flick, is when the Dwarves are taken prisoner by the Wood Elves. There are so many events to cut between the two movies. But at least this is a safe place to leave the party, but there's still some sense of urgency and drama. Then again, maybe that's a little to close to the battle of five armies.

There are a lot of places to cut between the movies though. There are so many individual events that he could chop it up anywhere. But I think Jackson will try to find a scene to end with drama. After Biblo escapes from Gollums cave, maybe when the party gets trapped by wolves, or possibly just before they get caught by spiders. There's just a lot of places to do it.

I'm very curious if Jackson is going to include Beorn. Beorn IMO is a lot like Tom Bombadil, who was completely left out of the trilogy, and one of the characters I was pissed off about not being in the flicks. Beorn is kind of important to the end of the battle of five army's though, so he better be included!

I can't wait to see what Smaug looks like! The trolls will be fun to see also, and I wonder how the goblins will look. The Dwarves look good so far.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Is it me, or does Bilbo look too big compared to the Dwarves? I always thought of Bilbo being nearly 2/3's the size all the dwarves.

 

[Goober]

Beorn is in the movie, FYI. He's played by Mikael Persbrandt (???),

 

[Senser81]

have read The Hobbit and LOTR countless time...read the Hobbit first tho. I tried reading The Silmarillion but the damn thing reads like a textbook. It provides some interesting background info and insight into the big players in the realm but its not a particularly entertaining read imo.

I liked The Silmarillion much more than The Hobbit. The Silmarillion is like a collection of short stories told in a linear fashion. There is a little overlap between stories, but they are mostly told in a stand-alone fashion. It was interesting to me how Tolkien conceived of the beginning of Middle Earth, Melkor/Morgoth has a much more active role in the stories, the story of the fall of Numenor was also interesting, etc.

 

[Goober]

Benedict Cumberbatch is voicing Sauron/the Necromancer, and according to Cumberbatch's quote Sauron might actually be at the battle of five armies in the movie. :fad:

I’m playing Smaug through motion-capture and voicing the Necromancer, which is a character in the Five Legions War or something which I’m meant to understand. He’s not actually in the original Hobbit.


When he says, "Five Legion War" he is referring to The Battle of Five Armies which is the final conflict in The Hobbit.

 

[Goober]

Big image in spoilers. First look at Beorn, and the wargs look way better then the ones in TTT.

 

 

[A Tasty Burgerr]

Hotlink that shit, stupid vsn resized it.

 

[Goober]

http://www.cinepremiere.com.mx/asse...icia-hobbit-imagen-panoramica-principal00.jpg

 

[Senser81]

I think the Hobbit has a chance to be a better movie than the LOTR movies. The book translates to film better, IMO, because you have one linear story (instead of the two stories in LOTR), and there isn't as much going on in the Hobbit. I think part of the problem with the LOTR movies is that the material they needed to cover was so vast. Large parts of the story were simply ignored, and many modifications were made to the original books and, to me, most of these modifications made no sense (hey, we were chilling out in Rivendell, but we heard you were in trouble at Helm's Deep, so even though it took you 3 months to get from Rivendell to Helm's Deep, it took us about 12 hours.)

It will be interesting to see if the Hobbit is different in tone/look than the LOTR movies. I kind of hope so, but I doubt it.

 

[Goober]

I think the Hobbit has a chance to be a better movie than the LOTR movies. The book translates to film better, IMO, because you have one linear story (instead of the two stories in LOTR), and there isn't as much going on in the Hobbit. I think part of the problem with the LOTR movies is that the material they needed to cover was so vast. Large parts of the story were simply ignored, and many modifications were made to the original books and, to me, most of these modifications made no sense (hey, we were chilling out in Rivendell, but we heard you were in trouble at Helm's Deep, so even though it took you 3 months to get from Rivendell to Helm's Deep, it took us about 12 hours.)

It will be interesting to see if the Hobbit is different in tone/look than the LOTR movies. I kind of hope so, but I doubt it.

Jackson is including a lot more in the movie then what is in the book though. Legolas is in the movie ffs. And the movie will follow two stories, it includes Gandalf and the White Council's trip to Dol Guldur. Also apparently Sauron will have a physical presence in the movie.

I'm excited for the movie, but some of the changes are pretty silly.

 

[Goober]

Bill Bert and Tom on display at comiccon:

 

[Houston]

Legolas is in the movie ffs.

 

[A Tasty Burgerr]

I am extremely curious to see how the industry receives and reacts to the 48 fps. This seems like it could have a bigger impact than 3D ever did but there's such hugely mixed opinions on it I really have no idea how it will turn out.

 

[Senser81]

Jackson is including a lot more in the movie then what is in the book though. Legolas is in the movie ffs. And the movie will follow two stories, it includes Gandalf and the White Council's trip to Dol Guldur. Also apparently Sauron will have a physical presence in the movie.

Thats interesting that they are including parts of the overall story that wasn't in The Hobbit. People are usually interested in the wizards and whatnot, so that should add to the movie, IMO. I don't think Legolas was ever part of the Ring's backstory, but oh well.

 

[Goober]

Radagast the Brown

 

[Senser81]

I wonder what role Radagast will have in the movie...he didn't really have one in the books.