The Hypothetical 2011 NCAA Playoff Thread

[FirstTimer]

And why do you think that is? Because people care about those schools more. Remember the TCU/Utah game last year? It wasn't even on regular TV and no one really cared because it turned out to be a terrible game anyway.

MAYBE people will tune in at the beginning of NIU/Alabama, but they won't be around long.

That game meant nothing. At all. Apples to Oranges.

 

[FirstTimer]

Two top 5 teams.... If they were in a big conference (aka people actually cared who they were) the coverage would have been wall to wall and even though the game meant nothing, it would have been hyped to the point where I'm sure it would have at least been on ESPN2 :smug:.

Again, the game meant nothing in the grand scheme. hell TCU actually dropped the next week despite beating their next opponent.

TCU vs Utah in a National Quarterfinal with the winner going on to play LSU.

Ratings boost.

AND the game actually has meaning.

So the game ratings are higher the game has meaning compared to low ratings and the game being meaningless..........the issue here is what exactly?

 

[NAHSTE]

But you're really not adding games. ND will play 13 games this season. LSU and Georgia will play 14 this year. You cap the regular season at 11 games. Max 3 additional games for a playoff(in my scenario) all is equal to what it is now to the team that wins.

:lol:

Good luck getting that to happen. These are the same weaselly fucks who unilaterally ADDED a 12th game simply to stuff another home game in for the big programs.

 

[FirstTimer]

So the game ratings are higher the game has meaning compared to low ratings and the game being meaningless..........the issue here is what exactly?

 

[FirstTimer]

:lol:

Good luck getting that to happen. These are the same weaselly fucks who unilaterally ADDED a 12th game simply to stuff another home game in for the big programs.

Ok..well..sack up and stop it? The money the NCAA and the conferences would make off a playoff>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What they are currently making. I'm sure they'd sacrifice the 12th game for it...especially if they get a home playoff game....

 

[NAHSTE]

Ok..well..sack up and stop it? The money the NCAA and the conferences would make off a playoff>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>What they are currently making. I'm sure they'd sacrifice the 12th game for it...especially if they get a home playoff game....

No, because only a handful of schools would see revenue in those games. A 12th game is one more guaranteed million dollar Saturday for a program like Florida State or Oklahoma. There's no way they pass that up for the rare year when they play one or two home playoff games.

They would not sacrifice shit. They will only add games, not reduce them from here.

 

[FirstTimer]

No, because only a handful of schools would see revenue in those games

But the increased revenue from a playoff given to the conferences and split up would be massive compared to the BCS. In the end at worse it's a wash. At best it's a gain.

They'd make more than a million dollars by giving up the one game and going to a playoff. The million dollar loss would be more than offset for the school.

Even still, I'd be fine with a 12 game schedule then a playoff. I'm not worried about there being 15 or 16 games personally.

So to me it's a moot point.

 

[FirstTimer]

The revenue wouldn't be there for the teams that finish second and third in the big conferences. All of whom have a lot more say in what goes on than any school not in the big conferences.

(Maybe, maybe not)Whatever. Keep the 12th game. I'm not the one against it to begin with.

 

[FirstTimer]

I'm talking about the money from the playoff. Teams generating 2/3 of the money in the pot aren't going to appreciate it being handed out to the masses.

How is it divided up in basketball?

I don't see too many people complaining there.

And again, who do you get to enforce this exactly?

Who enforces anything now?

 

[FirstTimer]

End of the day college football is staring a cashcow in the face with a possible playoff..of any kind....how the hell they don't jump all over it I have no idea.

 

[FirstTimer]

I agree. As long as they take the best teams and not some schmucks from Louisiana Tech.

Then lets cut the shit and relegate all the other conferences to another division.

 

[Woy]

 

[Golden Taters]

I would be interested in a playoff up to 16 teams. If smaller conference schools have a shot at a national championship, things get exciting.

I enjoy pulling for the underdogs, which is why March Madness is so fun to watch. The way football is set up now, you will never see a George Mason/Butler-like cinderella run. Sun Belt, MAC, WAC, etc schools have nothing to play for when you look beyond a meaningless conference title and a trip to the prestigious Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. I know a small school will rarely will have a magical run at a title, but I don't like the idea of counting a school out just because of their conference. If they win their conference, give them a shot.

This would greatly even the playing field. All 120 schools have a chance at the national championship. I think it's laughable when you consider how it is now, only 66 teams have any sort of chance. Excluding almost half of the nation's schools from a shot at the championship is just plain wrong.

Every school should have a chance, give every school something to play for. That's my opinion, anyways.

 

[Bear Pand]

so we should just let them wallow in the doldrums of college football with the rest of the filth?? i say fuck it, give em a shot if they win their conference, just like everyone else... it would do more good than harm...

They need to give themselves a shot. It's on them to improve their own team and put themselves into a position where they can escape the doldrums. Not saying it's easy for them to do this either, but there's been teams that have managed to do it.

Give teams a spot when they earn it. Not because:

"it'd do more good than harm."
"it'd level the playing field and help them recruit" (hint: it wouldn't)
"i want to see a Cinderella run, UPSET CITY BABY"

or any of the other feel good reasons. It's a playoff not a charity.

Or let's just assume they can't and not give them a shot and cut out half the country from even having a shot at the title.

Bullshit IMO.

The regular season is their shot to prove they belong in the postseason. They don't do it period. We can sit back and point fingers and place blame but they don't. Occasionally schools from smaller conferences DO manage to prove it and with a playoff system they'd likely be able to get in.

Then lets cut the shit and relegate all the other conferences to another division.

They wouldn't be missed.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Then they need to re-align the conferences and balance the schedules. Lets put Texas in the Sun Belt and see how many times any team but Texas wins that conference.

Cinderella games happen in football, Cinderella runs do not.

How do you know they don't happen.. WEVE NEVER HAD A PLAYOFF TO DETERMINE THIS.

 

[Atlas]

Richmond had a Cinderella-esque run when it won the I-AA title a few years back... jus sayin...


and BP, of course giving teams like LA Tech (and the like) the same shot at a national title as everyone else would help them in recruiting... to say otherwise is naive...

 

[Hasselbeck]

Richmond had a Cinderella-esque run when it won the I-AA title a few years back... jus sayin...


and BP, of course giving teams like LA Tech (and the like) the same shot at a national title as everyone else would help them in recruiting... to say otherwise is naive...

It'd help recruiting and would completely halt all this ridiculous conference re-alignment.. hell some of the schools that moved may be more inclined to make a move in realignment that made some sense.

 

[FirstTimer]

How about the regular season?

TCU and Boise have both had a shot the last two years and blown it.

TCU went undefeated last season. Yep, they sure blew it!

Boise lost to a really good TCU team this year.

Okie St, who if they had gotten into the NCG no one really would have fussed,(other than Double Deuce) lost to Iowa St.

Come on.

 

[FirstTimer]

Added to that a 12 or 13 game regular season run =/= to a team getting into a playoff with 1 or 2 losses and putting together 3 or 4 wins.

 

[FirstTimer]

That's because they played 4 games that would have been marquee matchups for any team not in a BCS conference in schedule.

How exactly did TCU "blow it" by going undefeated?

TCU got fucked by the pollsters and the system that doesn't allow for any more than two teams to play for the title. TCU didn't do anything on the field to "blow it".

Come on.

I think you guys believe I'm against the playoff

No.